END TO END BERNERS: The Official Bernie Sanders 2020 Crew thread

There's no comparison here. There's one person in this race worth supporting. pic.twitter.com/jTZ7xvvi1T

— Tum Tum (@ActionDonson) November 7, 2019

That Warren tweet is really disgusting.

Why?

because Liz sucks now
and everything she says or does is icky

she's always sucked tbh

was probably worse when she was a republican

it is crucially important that we make harsh moral judgments of candidates based on their positions on hypothetical scenarios that have 0% bearing on reality

What makes this discussion stupid id that Bernie does not intend to tax Bill Gates $100 billion any more than Warren does.

yeah but chumming up with epstein adjacent eugenicist billionaires is its own reward

Warren clearly wants to be besties.

both of those seem like good campaigning to me

chumming up with epstein adjacent eugenicist billionaires

I suppose you realize that if you were trying to win a hypothetical election to any position of public trust by expressing yourself in such terms, you would not only lose, but never come close enough to winning for anyone to take you seriously. otoh, warren is already in the midst of trying to win a real election, and so may be pardoned if she doesn't emulate your approach.

it's true. bill gates has so many divisions

i don't think there is a political cost to antagonizing billionaires.

if you lost the vote of every american billionaire, you would lose 607 votes, many of them in safe blue states like new york and california.

chumming up with epstein adjacent eugenicist billionaires

I suppose you realize that if you were trying to win a hypothetical election to any position of public trust by expressing yourself in such terms, you would not only lose, but never come close enough to winning for anyone to take you seriously. otoh, warren is already in the midst of trying to win a real election, and so may be pardoned if she doesn't emulate your approach.

― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, November 7, 2019 10:15 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

well neither one of us will ever be president of the united states so we have that in common

and you do realize that ilx and public facing social media accounts of politicians are different things, and i am obviously aware of that?

xps - ah, but one must antagonize them without sounding like an angry fool. especially if you aren't given a free pass as a white male.

oh aimless is drawing for the idpol now? o tempora, o mores

Lol is 'free pass as a white male' bcos u remembered Trump

do you deny that warren's rhetoric will be judged by a somewhat different standard because she is a woman, only because I said it?

Trump certainly sounds like an angry fool, but he doesn't aim it at billionaires. just immigrants.

We've been over this, but Sanders will also be judged (well, smeared) by a different standard thanks to his Jewishness!

"chumming up" with plutocrats in Warren parlance would be "turn them to chum based on proposed tax rates," which for some reason frighten them.

I suspect the main reason Warren's rhetoric isn't as antagonistic towards Gates is because she doesn't want it to be / it's not her style. It's not more complicated than that.

Why?

― No language just sound (Sund4r), Thursday, 7 November 2019 bookmarkflaglink

To get onside with people like Gates/entrepreneurs who have media access to bitch about things they don't like Warren is prepared let him have input in her tax plans?

I saw Warren's tweet as a polite "You don't know what you're talking about" but I guess she was chumming it up with Bill because BERNIE!!!

"input"

I re-read the tweet and it doesn't suggest that Bill have input, only that she'd meet him and explain her plan to him.

it was subtweeting of a hypothetical sanders tweet to be like "i wouldn't tax you like that bad bernie sanders" to bill gates.

It won't be 100 billion bill don't worry you won't go hungry xp

Warren murdered Epstein to protect Gates. You heard it here first.

i cringed at warren's tweet, but this is a very weird reason to favor one candidate over the other

when you're running for president, it's highly likely that you're going to have to meet and talk with some pretty awful ppl, and if ppl are actually "disgusted" that warren offered to meet with gates (rather than, i guess, calling for him to be shot and bayoneted), it's safe to say that at some point they're going to be horrified by someone bernie agrees to talk to

They won't be horrified because Bernie will talk to no one when he's president. He'll sit alone in the Oval Office growling.

subtweeting of a hypothetical sanders tweet

Can't keep up with the xps but "I would love to tell you to your face exactly how much more I would make you pay in taxes" is not particularly chummy.

They won't be horrified because Bernie will talk to no one when he's president. He'll sit alone in the Oval Office growling.

occasionally he will visit the Senate to angrily heckle Joe Manchin

"I would love to tell you to your face exactly how much more I would make you pay in taxes" is not particularly chummy.

That's how I read it.

jim in vancouver's acting like a right winger on Laura Ingraham's in 2012 looking for evidence that AHA YOU SEE Obama was a Kenyan socialist.

It's a meeting at first, but what is going to be said in the room? Warren is already saying it won't be that bad, she is ready and keen to sell out on anything she would tell the average voter.

this whole thing is also exceptionally stupid becaaaause

Earlier today Bill Gates in an interview said he doesn't like Elizabeth Warren's wealth tax because he thinks he will have to pay "$100 billion" and he will have to do "a little math"(?).

That sounded wrong, so I did the math.

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— mcc (@mcclure111) November 7, 2019

i don't see any moral/ethical distance between the two tweets personally but i accept that my bernie bros love to invent purity standards on the fly

this is a very silly conversation

thank you

thirded

yeah this is kind of obtuse. lets get Bernie back on the court shooting hoops and implementing M4A

yeah it's deeply stupid

This thread would be more useful as Bernie slash fic than a Marvel Universe alternate reality in which Elizabeth Warren is Phyllis Schlafly.

the freddening

We could instead talk about the actual Bernie announcement of the day

Sen. Bernie Sanders on Thursday released his comprehensive immigration plan, calling for a complete restructuring of the system through legislative action and a series of executive orders.

On day one of his administration, the candidate for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination said, he would place a moratorium on deportations, end raids by Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, stop construction of the wall on the US-Mexico border, end family separations and shutter for-profit detention centers.

Under his "A Welcoming and Safe America for All" plan, the Vermont independent indicated for the first time that he will reverse guidance from the Trump administration's Department of Justice and permit asylum claims from those fleeing domestic or gang violence. Sanders would also overturn Trump's so-called "public charge" rule and ensure that immigrants are not discriminated against based on income or disability, while extending temporary protected status until more permanent resolutions are in place, invalidating Trump's efforts to end those designations.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/07/politics/bernie-sanders-immigration-plan/index.html

bernie is good