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― and i approve this message (Hunt3r), Friday, 15 November 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link
it was a different time back then, we thought it was important for your clothes to tell other people how much you were sweating
― Îá˝ĎΚĎ, Friday, 15 November 2019 22:46 (four years ago) link
it was spelled hypercolor. and it was an american company. it was huge for a few years in the cusp of the 80s and 90s. i had a t-shirt as a young kid
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 15 November 2019 22:58 (four years ago) link
There are SHadOW ShiFteR shirts now.
― Yerac, Friday, 15 November 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/cxWNJfS.jpg
― insecurity bear (sic), Friday, 15 November 2019 23:01 (four years ago) link
I had a hyper colour Red Nose Day T-shirt. It stopped working (?) long before I stopped wearing it.
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n lĂĄimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 15 November 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link
TS: Je suis Karen vs. We are all Karens now
― they see me lollin' (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 November 2019 23:49 (four years ago) link
This thread is much more fun than the âyo yo yo breakdancing ilxors in their thirtiesâ one.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 16 November 2019 00:53 (four years ago) link
Iâm much more chill at 40 than I was at 30
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 16 November 2019 01:03 (four years ago) link
"If you look at the Gen X generational studies books that came out in the 90s, the tail end of Gen X was 1976 (maybe 1977). 1978 on were "Gen Y"""
I was born in 1976, and I always thought of Generation X as being ten years older than me, and American. They all had goatee beards and disliked working in an office. I like to think they were killed off by the dot.com boom, which made working in an office hip again. It pleases me to imagine fifty-something, sixty-something members of the Generation X race cycling around in the rain with Ocado delivery boxes on their backs. They had the opportunity to to work in an office and rejected it. Life in 2019 must be a paradise for them.
I think it's complicated by the fact that movies usually have actors who are older than the people they portray, so for example I have a mental image of Eric Stoltz as an archetypal Generation X person, but he was born in 1961, which makes him a member of the Blank Generation. Steve Buscemi was born in 1957, but he was always on the upper end of Generation X - he was Generation X's Yoda, its elder mentor figure.
Was David Lynch Generation X? He was born in 1946, during the baby boom, the same year as John Waters, and Oliver Stone, but he appealed to the Generation X market. Oliver Stone came across as someone who wanted to be Generation X but was not.
Steve Buscemi was 16 when Picasso died, which makes me wonder if the acid test is whether you coexisted with Pablo Picasso. I think the reason Generation X is overlooked today is that there are two Generation Xes - there's the media creation, which is overlooked because it is a dated relic of the 1990s, and the actual generation, who aren't really linked by anything. Also a lot of people in the media are of that generation, and from their point of view Generation X traits are "normal" and thus not worth writing about.
― Ashley Pomeroy, Saturday, 16 November 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link
It pleases me to imagine fifty-something, sixty-something members of the Generation X race cycling around in the rain with Ocado delivery boxes on their backs. They had the opportunity to to work in an office and rejected it. Life in 2019 must be a paradise for them.you seem like an asshole
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 November 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link
bernie sanders is "silent generation" which nobody ever talks about maybe bc they're so silent
― esempio (crĂźt), Saturday, 16 November 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link
feel like there's been some interesting semantic drift on karen, which has gone from "white lady who will call the cops whenever she sees a black person" to "old person who will tell you to not litter". i'm very definitely the latter.
― tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 November 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link
I am mostly conscious of the silent generation because my in-laws belong to it
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 16 November 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link
One kind of demarcation is having come into pop consciousness during punk and its immediate aftermath. After ~1975 you may still nominally be gen x but will have had a different and arguably less vital set of formative cultural experiences.
Down the line that's the difference between being 11 and 16 when acid house is kicking off.
― Noel Scott Emits (Noel Emits), Saturday, 16 November 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link
â Noel Scott Emits (Noel Emits)
i'm going to guess you were born before 1975
when i was 16 i was listening to led zeppelin tapes and using a computer. i don't think what age i was when acid house kicked off made a lot of difference in my life, except insofar as acid house affected the demoscene.
― tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 November 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link
...and it's not like i knew anyone who had an amiga so i never even saw "Jesus on E's"
― tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 November 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link
But acid house / rave was driven by people who also would have been old enough to pick up on punk to some extent, more so than people who were 12 in 1987.
Not saying it's simply causal. But also it seems like if your first pop era starts after 1983 that's quite different to the period before.
― Noel Scott Emits (Noel Emits), Saturday, 16 November 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link
People who lived in places where punk and acid house never âkicked offâ donât belong to any demographic
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 16 November 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link
I always site Gen X people as born between 1961 (Douglas Couplandâs birth year) and 1979/80 (Thatcher/Reagan administrations begin).
― santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 16 November 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link
I mean I grew up in suburban New Jersey. No, I didn't hear any punk rock, my parents wouldn't let me stay up late enough to watch Quincy. When I was 12 I was listening to "License to Ill" and "Raising Hell", if you want to argue my generation's cultural experiences are different and "arguably less vital" than yours be my guest. Nobody will listen to you, but given that we're both Generation X we're well used to that by now, aren't we?
― tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 November 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link
I think of 1965-1975 as Strong-X, 1961-1964 and 1976-1980 as Weak-X, or transitional gens if you prefer. As a Strong-Xer I do notice stereotypical Millennial traits creeping in with that '76-'80 cohort, and I don't relate to them as much as I do the pre-'76ers as a rule.
― Josefa, Saturday, 16 November 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link
i'm the Judean People's Front version of Gen X
― tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 November 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link
Take it easy. I could have made it clearer but it should be obvious that I'm talking about a UK context of 70s punk (and the 80s pop fallout) and acid house as a pop phenom.
Yeah I could argue that the pop charts are less interesting in 1985 than in 1981, it's hardly a new claim. Don't take it personally - I was partly wondering why the 1976 guy above would set himself apart.
― Noel Scott Emits (Noel Emits), Saturday, 16 November 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link
Please don't "U mad bro?" me, thanks.
― tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 November 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link
...Second Reality?
(I didn't see Jesus on Es but I did grab the mod from aminet and then steal the breakbeat sample from it)
anyway generations are all very confusing but I resent this Karen thing without really knowing what it is or what it's a reference to, which I fully expect to be told is a very Karen thing to do, idk
xposts but aren't generational cultural touchstones always driven by people who were old enough to have picked up on the last generation's touchstones? I mean that time delay is kind of built in
― a passing spacecadet, Saturday, 16 November 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link
Iâve encountered some older Gen X armchair punks who are extremely fucking reactionary. Thereâs a notorious Atlanta zine run by one of them that I pray to god gets washed away in a righteous Gen Z internet uprising sometime soon
― esempio (crĂźt), Saturday, 16 November 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link
basically white dudes who think their misogyny, homophobia, and racism means theyâre sticking it to the establishment and thinking independently
― esempio (crĂźt), Saturday, 16 November 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link
Gen n: we have cultural touchstones you donât ~understand~Gen n+ 1: FUCK U, WE GET THEM, O BOY DO WE THEY SUCK AND EVEN U DONT GET THEM.
― and i approve this message (Hunt3r), Saturday, 16 November 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link
aren't generational cultural touchstones always driven by people who were old enough to have picked up on the last generation's touchstones? I mean that time delay is kind of built in
Well, exactly.
The point was simply that there's *one* difference (in the UK) between growing up 65-73, and after that.
Not a definer of an entire geberation and the suggestion that one is "arguably" better than the other was a little gentle retort to Ashley Pomeroy above. i.e. a joke.
― Noel Scott Emits (Noel Emits), Saturday, 16 November 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link
yesterday a friends 14 year old daughter was telling me about karens (had never heard the term before).in her world they are basically pushy mums who get their kids involved in every after school club etc.
― mark e, Saturday, 16 November 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
Twenty-somethings I speak to all say that big Karen energy is wanting to speak to a manager, having highlights on a Rachel from Friends hairstyle variant they havenât abandoned since the show was on broadcast, and calling other women âhunniâ on FB.
― santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 16 November 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link
That, and she's an anti-vaxxer.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 16 November 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link
xp crut:https://www.chunklet.com/ ?
― sarahell, Saturday, 16 November 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link
And in ref to the Gen-X subdivision -- this thread could serve as a demarcation line:
Here we post radio-slick, ultracompressed Modern Rock singles 1987-1990 w/ huge gated drums & lots of chorus! (youtube thread)
A few weeks ago I was arguing on fb w/a friend born in the mid-60s about when the Cure stopped being good in response to another friend who was born in the mid-60s earnestly trying to feel the love for the Disintegration album. Anyway, the latter friend just died a couple days ago.
― sarahell, Saturday, 16 November 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link
xp not speaking for crut but I assumed he meant https://stompandstammer.com/
― Brad C., Saturday, 16 November 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link
is there a non-US version of this generational warfare or
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 November 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link
"...Second Reality?
â a passing spacecadet"
of course, second reality rocked my world, fucking purple motion d00d
"basically white dudes who think their misogyny, homophobia, and racism means theyâre sticking it to the establishment and thinking independently
â esempio (crĂźt)"
look i grew up on, like, fucking answer me! and bill hicks, i'm not going to say gen x is blameless. some of us have grown and learned since that time and some of us, well, still listen to whatever the fuck jim goad is saying these days.
"is there a non-US version of this generational warfare or
â deems of internment (darraghmac)"
it probably involves acid house deems?
― tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 November 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link
sarahell - I know the band chunklet but am not familiar with the zine - Iâm talking about st0mp and st4mm3r
― esempio (crĂźt), Saturday, 16 November 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link
chunklet is generally better known in gen-x circles tbh
― sarahell, Saturday, 16 November 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link
Wow, I'd never even heard of that site (stomp etc.) before today. I read three articles (Charlie's Angels movie review, Taylor Swift album review, Orwells album review) quickly and will never be back.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 16 November 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link
ive never heard of it either and went to it after unpersons ref to see how anything current could sound so boring. I landed on a scots and beck splash page and the anachronistic whiplash severed my head from my body
― and i approve this message (Hunt3r), Saturday, 16 November 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link
Josefa at 10:41 16 Nov 19I think of 1965-1975 as Strong-X, 1961-1964 and 1976-1980 as Weak-X, or transitional gens if you prefer. As a Strong-Xer I do notice stereotypical Millennial traits creeping in with that '76-'80 cohort, and I don't relate to them as much as I do the pre-'76ers as a rule.eh I mean this just points out the silliness of this, I was born in 74 and definitely relate a hell of a lot more to my friends from HS and my own sister who were born in 76 than I do someone born in 65I think there are mini generations, basically ppl that were like 2/3 years older than you in HS and to ppl that were 2/3 years younger
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 November 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link
Is there any way to avoid repeating arguments about what years generations start and stop?
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 16 November 2019 23:12 (four years ago) link
not that I know of
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 November 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link
No
― tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 16 November 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link
ILX is pretty much repeat the same argument over and over again on most topics.
― tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 16 November 2019 23:31 (four years ago) link
I mean everybody in the world does that
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 November 2019 23:34 (four years ago) link
even truthbombs are long forgotten when the Thread that gave them birth comes again
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 16 November 2019 23:38 (four years ago) link
aw nice gonna go read wheel of time again now
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 November 2019 23:56 (four years ago) link