one more thing, speaking of creating life - if veidt is on europa, as it appears, i wonder if he’s there for reasons related to it having the potential to sustain life in the hot water springs under its ice?maybe even... squid life?
― actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 November 2019 08:10 (four years ago) link
petey is 100% lube man, there can’t be two tall super-gangly guys in one show, it just doesn’t happen
I'm assuming this will be confirmed soon, since the show has reliably unveiled the obvious stuff quickly and with minimal fuss (Don Johnson and James Wolk's respective turns for example). I also liked the cops speculating about American Hero Story and Manhattan's identity. whatever Lindelof's defects he's been around the block often enough to understand how to anticipate and play around with how modern audiences behave
― Simon H., Saturday, 23 November 2019 09:00 (four years ago) link
WHERE IS DAN DREIBERG FFS
It's implied that he's in prison
― Number None, Saturday, 23 November 2019 09:46 (four years ago) link
WHICH PRISON
― actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 November 2019 09:47 (four years ago) link
The Black Iron Prison.
― So, your CV says you're a (checks notes) DJ and stand-up comedian (aldo), Saturday, 23 November 2019 12:23 (four years ago) link
aquatraz
(it's setting up a stingray crossover) (the only thing that could make this reboot better)
― mark s, Saturday, 23 November 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link
adrian veidt is rory stewart
― actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 November 2019 13:11 (four years ago) link
he's fluent in dari
― mark s, Saturday, 23 November 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link
and like veidt’s hero alexander the great, he walked across afghanistan
― actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 November 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link
anything can happen in the next half hour
― mark s, Saturday, 23 November 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link
episode six of this show will be presented in supermarionation
― actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 November 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link
*is finally persuaded to watch*
― mark s, Saturday, 23 November 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link
I’ve never made it all the way through Watchmen because I find it so upsetting that the guy in the hat and coat has a picture of my parents having sex on his face— Benito Cereno (@benito_cereno) November 22, 2019
― Simon H., Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
I’m not sure if this show is really stupid or really clever. I honestly bounce back and forth by the minute.
― circa1916, Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link
A great sage once remarked on the thin line between the two
― Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
I think this episode deserves a "holy shit"
― With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 25 November 2019 09:16 (four years ago) link
otm
managed to make it through the whole episode without realizing that young william is the same actor who played regina king's son in the leftovers
― jacquees, full of cobras (voodoo chili), Monday, 25 November 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link
surely Moore could give a nod to this one. Just outstanding in terms of conception & realization.
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 25 November 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link
i haven’t seen this episode yet but i can say with some confidence that moore will never have anything positive to say about it, and tbh he’s right
― actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 25 November 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link
didn't realize this still i started re-reading the original GN, but the copy of watchmen I have (probably purchased in 2009 or so) has a pull quote on the back from lindelof
― jacquees, full of cobras (voodoo chili), Monday, 25 November 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link
that would be around the time he made a brief foray into comics by writing a series for Marvel
well, attempted to, as he only scripted half the series and then came back to finish it a couple years later. was too busy writing pull quotes, apparently
― mh, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link
I know Moore would have nothing to say about it but the level of craft and the weaving into the original GN was really well done.
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 25 November 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link
when your work has been stolen from you, and you have been lied to and about for 32 years, and then hundreds of other people gather around it at once and piss all over it while their leader shouts in exactly as many words “Fuck you, I’m doing it anyway!” over and over and over, you are unlikely to “give a nod” to the graceful arc of four of the individual pissjets
― insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 25 November 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link
Ok ok
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 25 November 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link
yes we know how you feel about that, you can leave the thread now.
this episode was excellent.
― akm, Monday, 25 November 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link
but then I'd miss your explanation of why Moore would give a nod to the excellent episode
― insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link
lmao
― Οὖτις, Monday, 25 November 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link
It's evident from the episode itself. Go watch it.
I've liked the show all along, but this really was the first episode where I can say emphatically that yes, this should exist, absolutely. Not like this, but what a brilliant idea, it enriches the original gn so much.
― Frederik B, Monday, 25 November 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link
Only part I hated was Jean Smart's expodump on the history of Nostalgia at the beginning. That was painful.
― Simon H., Monday, 25 November 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link
agreed, that could have been parsed out in previous episodes
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link
as if Alan Moore even owns a television
― mh, Monday, 25 November 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link
who needs a tv when you’re bopping around the qabalistic tree of life, hanging out with ancient gods, shooting the shit in enochian, &c &c
― A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link
is this show successful? this is the only place I see anything about it
― Οὖτις, Monday, 25 November 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
iirc the ratings are very good
― Simon H., Monday, 25 November 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Monday, November 25, 2019 12:40 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
there's a jamelle bouie piece about it on the homepage of the nyt right now
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link
getting around 700k, against eg 2.3 million for Bob's Burgers or 6.3 million for NCIS in the same timeslot. In cable only, it's ahead of Watch What Happens Live, Fox & Friends and (last week) the Soul Train Awards Red Carpet presentation, and a little ahead of Silicon Valley, which follows it. On par with Last Week Tonight, and behind Shameless, Momma Named Me Sheriff, Mr Pickles, Keeping Up With The Kardashians, 90 Day Fiance, Real Housewives Of Atlanta, Married To Medicine, The Talking Dead, and (last week) the Soul Train Awards ceremony.
― insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link
that's all fairly meaningless when most people are streaming it tho?
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link
especially comparing it with basic cable shows
i think I'm going to start watching the show. the jamelle bouie article has swayed me (also i love the leftovers)
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:24 (four years ago) link
#lindelofgang
not if those people are streaming it to their televisions.
(yes if they're all watching it on their phones, and if none of the other programmes are watched by streaming.)
― insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link
I don't think ratings counts streams no matter what? Otherwise Netflix shows would be on there as well.
It is weird that nobody is doing ratings for streaming, but I guess nobody wants to pay for it.
― Frederik B, Monday, 25 November 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link
Netflix doesn't report any numbers iirc
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link
No, but neither do HBO. It's Nielsen afaik, and it's payed for by... somebody? Probably advertisers and cable companies, who need the information. Nobody really needs the information from Netflix, but it would just be nice to have.
― Frederik B, Monday, 25 November 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link
― insecurity bear (sic), Monday, November 25, 2019 1:34 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
most people stream from their laptops in my personal experience though i traditionally do stream from my phone (to chrome cast)
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link
and viewing figures don't count people watching on demand content afaict
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link
700K is on par with The Leftovers
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link
methodology varies from territory to territory, but in Australian and AFAIK in the US Nielsen counts what's coming out of your TV, not how it gets into it. streams and timeshifts obviously count, or +3 and +7 and +28 wouldn't be recorded at all.
Netflix don't count towards VOSDAL because they don't collaborate with Nielsen, therefore premiere-day views can't be captured. Nielsen do internal measurement of some Netflix programming, not all, but it can't be compared with VOSDAL after the fact.
(Nielsen also do measure viewing on non-TV devices, but it's a much smaller subset of their TV panels, and demographically harder to recruit.)
― insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link
if the viewer is chromecasting from their laptop to their TV, that's exactly the same as chromecasting from their phone to their TV.
― insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link
i know
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link