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― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 December 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link
Funny how I can be elitist for thinking McD's is crap but the ppl eating it on the reg in their car that I can't afford or their huge home I can't afford aren't.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link
In 'n' Out has it both ways (so to speak), as elitist (we're better than every other burger) *and* populist (everyone goes to In 'n' Out).
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 December 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link
In 'n' Out is only "pretty good"
― omar little, Monday, 2 December 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link
Their fries which are fresh, suck.
― DJI, Monday, 2 December 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link
Funny how one can be elitist for thinking McD's is crap, but if you brown bag your lunch and it's mainly nutritious items like vegetables and fruit, some people think that is elitist, too, even though McD's is spendier.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link
For awhile, animal-style saved their fries for me but then they kept fucking that up too (cheese was never melted). Haven't been there in a few years, there's too many other better burger options.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, December 2, 2019 2:05 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
It's not my fault you spent your paycheck on avocado toast, bro.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link
avocado toasts jokes are sooooooooo 2017
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link
who the fuck cares what other people eat
― brimstead, Monday, 2 December 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link
but lol at trying to clown on someone for spending $$ on healthy tasty food at the expense of shit you truly don't need like a humongous home and SUV
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link
It's almost like elitism is not entirely correlated with how much things cost.
― they see me lollin' (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link
it's almost like ppl overuse the term when snobbery would work better
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link
Eating at McDonald's has become immensely more pleasant since they introduced the screens for you to enter and pay for your order and the bringing of your meal to your table. Those changes have made it far more likely that I will eat there than it was before.
― van dyke parks generator (anagram), Monday, 2 December 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link
not because the other stuff tastes bad so much as it often makes me feel like shit afterwards.
Elitist. A true man of the people would eat McDonalds and tell your gut to shut up.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR)
perhaps having the predilection for linking cause and effect _is_ elitist!
― Agnes Motörhead (rushomancy), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 01:05 (four years ago) link
folks,
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 02:01 (four years ago) link
since they introduced the screens for you to enter and pay for your order
I know a lot of left-leaning people who are incensed by the job-killing march of automation.
I also know a lot of antisocial and/or misanthropic introverts who hate talking to people and love automated kiosks/self-checkout options.
When it gets REALLY interesting is when they turn out to be the selfsame people.
TBH I sometimes include myself in this tricky overlap: I want people to have jobs, but I sometimes enjoy not talking to them
― they see me lollin' (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 02:13 (four years ago) link
i don't want people to have jobs at mcdonalds
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 02:16 (four years ago) link
filet-o-fish for life
― DT, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 02:45 (four years ago) link
So do you not want McDonald's to exist, or do you want it to exist but not have human workers? Honest question.
― they see me lollin' (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 03:42 (four years ago) link
it's kinda dumb zero sum game thinking, the idea that the kiosks automatically equate to lost jobs. so far, all of the reports have shown otherwise, that companies have had to increase their staff as the automation has led to more orders coming in.
the idea that you're saving someone's job by going to the cashier is horseshit - greedy multinational corporations like McDonald's will cut labor whenever they can, kiosk or no kiosk. what isn't horseshit is that McDonald's is still underpaying their employees and deliberately underscheduling them, preferring to have a larger staff that works 15-20 hours a week rather than full-timers.
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 04:14 (four years ago) link
IIRC it's mainly mobile/delivery orders driving things up? To the extent that it's creating supply/labor problems
― Simon H., Tuesday, 3 December 2019 04:16 (four years ago) link
yeah, mostly because there's no control in place to manage the influx of orders. pre-online ordering, you could only get orders as fast as your staff could input them. now you can get slammed with a ton of online orders simultaneously, without warning. and Uber Eats/Postmates/etc orders as well.
the Popeyes near me, when the new sandwich was re-released, were basically obliterated - ran out of beverages many days because in addition to the insane walk-up and drive-thru traffic, there were tons of people placing Uber Eats orders and there were maybe five employees in the whole building.
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 04:32 (four years ago) link
I had occasion to talk with a regional manager for Macca’s the other week. He said the screens had driven a significant uptake in per transaction sales, people are less embarrassed with upsizing and adding on through the screen. That said 70% of sales are through the drive through window with delivery driving growth. UberEATS basically created a new category for them.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 05:00 (four years ago) link
So do you not want McDonald's to exist, or do you want it to exist but not have human workers?
the latter. humans should mostly paint
sry to strike poses; obv utopia isn't coming soon. but it's coming sooner than the effects of automation under capitalism are gonna be alleviated by telling someone you want a big mac
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 05:13 (four years ago) link
The jobs that cant be automated - preparing the food and maintaining hygiene standards - still need to be done, only with the screens there are less staff to do them. When you don't use the screen, you're pulling a staff member away from a job that they need to complete. In effect it is adding extra work to their day, making it harder for them to leave on time. These companies aren't going to add staff, they're just going to command the existing limited pool of staff to work harder/faster. I don't like to see jobs and hours cut but for the workers on the frontline, my interruption of their tasks to do a job that can easily be done by a screen doesn't help them. I imagine its really frustrating having some boomer come up and harass you about menu options when you just want to finish refilling the McFlurry machine or whatever.
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 07:58 (four years ago) link
Good discussion
Thanking u all for the license to continue combining vaguely liberal pieties with antipathy for saying things to ppl
― they see me lollin' (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 09:34 (four years ago) link
Believe me, I feel you. It's the same argument I have with myself over not doing more charitable work. I want to help people without having to actually be around people.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link
i'm not that averse to talking to people, but i also get tired of the 700th smug brag from libs that "I saved jobs today, I didn't use the self checkout like other assholes"
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link
And, lo, the devil watched vigilantly over the thread as it wobbled at the precipice, waiting for just the right moment to nudge it into the morass of intractable clusterfuckdom.
― What Would Spoonman Do? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link
Is that from The Crow?
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link
Crow 2 iirc
― What Would Spoonman Do? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 14:54 (four years ago) link
let them eat it
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link
iirc charities like help but they prefer money
― they see me lollin' (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link
i was today years old when i learned i was a charity
― A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link
― they see me lollin' (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, December 3, 2019 11:51 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
for sure, and I do donate pretty widely, it just feels lazier to me.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link
i like help but i prefer rubber soul
― Agnes Motörhead (rushomancy), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 02:36 (four years ago) link
The commercial otm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuTvQ8bhPVw
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 02:42 (four years ago) link
I can't tell you how revolutionary the Chicken McNuggets were in the early Reagan era for many of us who loathed burgers.q
OTM. Did they come before the Happy Meal or was it right around then?
― Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link
After!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 02:48 (four years ago) link
in the year 2525Big Mac combo no longer comes with friesPatties are smaller, condiments aren't freeThey're delivered through your TV
In the year 3535Your Filet of Fish has googly eyesThere's no bun, no random piece of cheeseAnd the fish might have contracted disease
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 02:59 (four years ago) link
hahahahaha
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 08:54 (four years ago) link
McNugget Trivia Corner:
According to McDonald's, the nuggets come in four shapes: the bell, the bow-tie, the ball and the boot. The reason for the four different shapes is to ensure consistent cooking times for food safety.[7][8] Four shapes were chosen because McDonalds states "The 4 shapes we make Chicken McNuggets in was the perfect equilibrium of dipability and fun. 3 would’ve been too few. 5 would’ve been, like, wacky."[9]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQzTR_FTBw0
― Typo Netagive (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link
I remember when McNuggets first came out. I pounced on those suckers like a cat on a mouse.
My wife and I were just discussing the old McDonald's styrofoam packaging, and how they were vaguely color-coded. (Especially the blue Filet O'Fish.)
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/12/10/1386691210212/Styrofoam.png?width=1010&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=2043d173c31400872615968f75591569
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link
yeah that was a classic design (which is clearly monstrously irresponsible, cough)
― éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link
It really was. It was so satisfying popping that little styrofoam tab and lifting the lid to reveal your Big Mac!
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTSdUOC8Kac
― Typo Netagive (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 14:55 (four years ago) link
I remember 15 years ago they did this 20 nuggets for $2 special, which back then was like "can't afford not to". I know people who would get 2 and wolf 'em all down like it was nothing. fwiw I still think the nuggets are good. if you get them from say BK or Wendy's they're always super dried out and extra salty but the McNuggets are different, possibly because they don't really taste too much like chicken to me. but they're good. in fact I think McD's does chicken pretty well. don't like their burgers at all though
― frogbs, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfH3yf-vf3A
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link