by besides I'm meaning "in comparison to", oof. my brain
― #FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link
his slide seems to roughly coincide with his realization that he could no longer credibly play a romantic lead, maybe that just sapped his interest
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link
Yet from 2005 until fairly recently he released several films that became among his highest grossing: Match Point, Scoop, Midnight in Paris, To Rome with Love, Blue Jasmine.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
those movies are (mostly) bad!
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link
Mostly just released to long-haul flight entertainment systems I think
― Sent me the wrong t-shirt it says let’s summon demons (Matt #2), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link
I offered description, not criticism. One of my hobbies in the last decade is writing long reviews of bad Woody Allen films. It was like sit-ups: not too strenuous, felt virtuous afterward.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link
I always forget that so many of these nu-Woody flicks were big moneymakers
― warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:01 (four years ago) link
well, relatively
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link
not sure what would make me interested in seeing any film by Woody Allen, having seen none to date
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link
are any of them good
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link
― warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Tuesday, December 10, 2019 6:01 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, December 10, 2019
Relative to their budgets a few of them (MIP in particular) were HUGE money makers.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link
lol silby
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link
like are any of them not about he, Woody Allen, fucking a much younger woman?
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:04 (four years ago) link
The only mildly amusing Allen movie in the last twenty years is Irrational Man, only because it's weird watching Joaquin Phoenix adjust his quirks to Woody.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:04 (four years ago) link
srs question: are these joke questions
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:04 (four years ago) link
here's the woody allen movies I'm aware of:
whatsit, the one named for the girl, Annie Hall: the plot is Woody Allen gets dumpedManhattan: I assume it's set in ManhattanBlue Jasmine: only aware of this because of a Comedy Bang Bang gagEverything you wanted to know about sex: I don't want to know about sex
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link
shakey I never joke
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link
uh ok
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:09 (four years ago) link
I like Vicky Cristina Barcelona but mostly because of Penelope Cruz. Most W. Allen films consist of conversations that I would slowly walk away from in real life.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:12 (four years ago) link
Broken down his filmography through 2002 with a yes/no question (yes indicating that it involves said fucking):
What's New Pussycat? - NoWhat's Up, Tiger Lily? - NoTake the Money and Run - NoBananas - NoPlay It Again, Sam - NoEverything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex* (*But Were Afraid to Ask) - NoSleeper - NoLove and Death - NoThe Front - NoAnnie Hall - NoInteriors - NoManhattan - YESStardust Memories - NoA Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy - NoZelig - NoBroadway Danny Rose - NoThe Purple Rose of Cairo - NoHannah and Her Sisters - NoRadio Days - NoSeptember - NoAnother Woman - NoCrimes and Misdemeanors - NoAlice - NoShadows and Fog - NoHusbands and Wives - YESManhattan Murder Mystery - NoBullets Over Broadway - NoMighty Aphrodite - YESEveryone Says I Love You - NoDeconstructing Harry - sort ofCelebrity - NoSweet and Lowdown - NoSmalltime Crooks - NoThe Curse of the Jade Scorpion - YES
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:16 (four years ago) link
a bunch of those are good-to-great. Annie Hall in particular is a comedy milestone/landmark film imo.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link
some of them are about him fucking a woman his own age. one of them is about Javier Bardem fucking two women, one of whom is five years younger than him* and one that is fifteen years younger than him. one is about Jason Biggs fucking someone his own age, but it is much worse than any of the American Pie movies.
* (that he has repeatedly fucked onscreen for 26 years and counting, as of Everybody Knows)
― insecurity bear (sic), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link
dang xpost
this has a chart of the age gaps between pairings in his films. https://www.mic.com/articles/185578/heres-a-chart-showing-the-age-gaps-between-romantic-partners-in-woody-allens-movies
I wonder if silby would like Annie Hall.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:23 (four years ago) link
I wonder a lot of things
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link
lol I looked up the Biggs one and forgot it's about him cheating on his girlfriend with a slightly younger woman and seeking advice from Woody Allen on what to do about it
― insecurity bear (sic), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:25 (four years ago) link
I think you wouldn't. But if you ever get mono maybe you could give it a shot. It's fine. xpost
― Yerac, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link
I'm not exactly seeking out movies about het romances these days
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link
my lesbian boomer pals and i get into arguments about it because they love it and I am like ... it's ok.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:28 (four years ago) link
the main thing it has going for it is that NYC isn't overcrowded in it.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link
I bet a silby could enjoy several of the good-to-great Woodys, including Annie Hall, if able to set aside "imo Woody is a sex creep" preconceptions. But there are plenty of other movies to watch.
xpost again, I went off and read the Mic chart
― insecurity bear (sic), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link
tbf Woody films are rarely if ever about romances, his characters are usually aggravated or anguished by luv, and more likely to fuck "other people" to hurt their nominal partners than bcz they're horny
― insecurity bear (sic), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:33 (four years ago) link
Javier Bardem fucking two women
dangit misremembered this one too: he is divorced from the woman five years younger, and fucks two women fifteen years and thirteen years younger than him
― insecurity bear (sic), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:48 (four years ago) link
this is accurate
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:50 (four years ago) link
even Annie Hall... I mean, saying it's about him "getting dumped" is not quite right, it's more about how anxiety conspires against happiness
I saw on another forum that the new one, A Rainy Day In New York, is available on some airline filghts heading into the states.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 00:00 (four years ago) link
Just read about this, a short Kissinger satire made for but not aired by PBS in '71.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyuCjDiqX58
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 00:14 (four years ago) link
!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 00:18 (four years ago) link
well known to those steeped in his career
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 01:45 (four years ago) link
Zelig is a wiseass NYer's version of Forrest Gump (but made 11 years earlier)
it's probably my favorite after Annie Hall, Sleeper, Manhhattan, maybe even ahead of a couple of those
"I've never flown before in my life, and it shows exactly what you can do if you're a total psychotic!"
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 01:51 (four years ago) link
Hmm I’m being a wiseass about Woody Allen mostly for my own amusement and bc I was understimulated at work today, but Forrest Gump, I passionately loathe Forrest Gump
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 01:54 (four years ago) link
it's not *like* Forrest Gump substantively
also Susan Sontag and Saul Bellow, among others, weigh in on the hero (a "chameleon man" who conforms to his surroundings)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 01:55 (four years ago) link
I've never seen Gump and have no plans to; it might as well be a Tarantino film
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 01:56 (four years ago) link
I’ll probably get around to reading Sontag before I get around to watching Woody Allen, at any rate.
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 01:56 (four years ago) link
There’s not really a good Forrest Gump thread for me to bump to talk shit about it in
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 01:57 (four years ago) link
you'll live
also your namesake, Gene Wilder, is great in Everything About Sex
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 02:03 (four years ago) link
Love & Death is good
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 02:06 (four years ago) link
it is! like a good prime Bob Hope burlesque, only with Dostoyevsky and Eisenstein references
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 02:08 (four years ago) link
it's not *like* Forrest Gump substantivelyalso Susan Sontag and Saul Bellow, among others, weigh in on the hero (a "chameleon man" who conforms to his surroundings)
― Tales of Jazz Ulysses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 03:22 (four years ago) link
also what was the name of the theater on the East Side where we would cue up when these things debuted, maybe the same one where Donald Fagen saw Lou Reed crying at a midday show of “Terms of Endearment,” The Beacon? No, The Beekman. Guess it closed for good recently although the original theater had already closed in 2005.
― Tales of Jazz Ulysses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 03:29 (four years ago) link