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dear god the flashbacks

imago, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link

take care Jim <3

Six minutes in LauraK's doc and ehhhh.... Also, *why* broadcast this *after* the GE? This is not your job! Your job is to hold them to scrutiny, to show "us all" how useless people like BJ, Cummings etc are. Not that it's newsworthy but she made this for her, not for the people, that much is clear. This isn't journalism, it's a vanity project.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link

that's the last line on her cv iirc

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link

https://i2-prod.examinerlive.co.uk/incoming/article15736895.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/1_wetherspoonscrash.jpg

I think this designated driver might be literally taking the piss

calzino, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link

Why would I care, right? It's just so infuriating because

a) She's a shit, shit journalist, and being one myself, doing political writing myself, she's just a disgrace for the occupation
b) Half of all Western European media just parrot back whatever it is LauraK belches out. Because it's the ~BBC~. I've heard one too many GE reports in the media here that just copy/paste her takes, however bad.
c) all journalists - myself included - are bad.
d) the end (I wish)

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:16 (four years ago) link

I watched half. She can Fuck off.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link

Yes yes I fucking hate-watched it till the end. LauraK ends with; "Someone texted me BJ as PM would either last 10 minutes or 10 years. You know what? This could only be the beginning." Twinkle in her eye, nudge nudge wink wink. This is sub-standard anything, partisan propaganda broadcasting. At prime time. Tell me where I can complain and direct my anger because bloody nora

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link

Take care Jim.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:14 (four years ago) link

And the entire media are sitting on a story about him that’s not gonna come to light because of family omertà which would by rights have him in jail. We all know a version of it and ARGH his disgusting entitlement is the cherry on top of this whole shit sundae.

Also, fuck the PLP. They must know too, and they fill up bulletins with insults to a good man who could have kept him out if they’d all stuck together like Labour members wanted.

santa clause four (suzy), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:19 (four years ago) link

Lol

trying to give a chill explanation of the british media’s treatment of left wingers to a first time CLP attendee pic.twitter.com/5S57zZO6Dd

— e (@scenicpasture) December 17, 2019

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link

You've mentioned this before. Is there no way you could get that story out in the world without the compromised suffering because of it? Is there really no way anyone can get this story out?

xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:23 (four years ago) link

It requires someone going public who refuses to, for various reasons, thus cannot be ‘stood up’ as journalists say.

santa clause four (suzy), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link

Also it looks like Starmer’s making his leadership pitch, and it’s a good one that stays classy and above the factions.

santa clause four (suzy), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:37 (four years ago) link

luv 2 see PLP melts who abstained on the Welfare Bill bleating about making their staff redundant

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link

Creagh is a fucking disgrace, they need to wipe these melts out of the party now no more comprise for wreckers

calzino, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link

c) all journalists - myself included - are bad.

Give yourself some credit, man. The fact that you're aware of how awful Laura K is for the BBC and the profession at large is proof positive that statement c) is patently untrue.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link

(xp) She's a loser, who cares?

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:58 (four years ago) link

She managed to make a marginal out of the constituency she was parachuted into and eventually lost it, good work there.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:01 (four years ago) link

Just pisses me off when a no mark blairite is slurring Corbyn as preening and vain when he's taken a lot of shit for actually giving a fuck

calzino, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link

She's lost her meal ticket but I'm sure she'll have plenty of company directorships and consultancy jobs and advisory boards lined up to keep the wolf from the door.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link

Thank you Pom, coming from you that really means something <3

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link

I really despise remainers and leavers right now. I'm trapped in some paradox here!

calzino, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link

Ugh, Newsnight on the Labour Party's lack of patriotism. Fucking awful.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link

the first refuge of a cunt

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link

Apparently the first refuge of the English working class according to working class Englishman, John Denham.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link

Pushing the nuclear button, supporting Trident, serving in the military, this is what your English proles love.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:22 (four years ago) link

Something the increasingly middle class Labour Party does not understand, a change from the days when it was a working class party led by Ey Up Tony Blair.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:25 (four years ago) link

I've got to stop watching this shite but it's so hard to escape from it.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link

Why are they pushing this shit? The job is done. Take a fucking week off.

glindr jackson (gyac), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:28 (four years ago) link

Victory lap

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:31 (four years ago) link

can any british people direct me to good articles that interrogate the "corbyn is an antisemite" idea?

doo rag, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:43 (four years ago) link

Seeing them run through this fucking performance - sitting there saying in all attitude of seriousness, why isn't Labour patriotic? - lets you know how they'd be playing it if there were roundups happening

Never changed username before (cardamon), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:48 (four years ago) link

What I hated most about LK's joke of a doc is its basically her following main character BJ around seeing off various challenges ... all opponents made to look like a joke ... that cunt out of the ERG sitting there UNCHALLENGED calling MPs traitors ...

Never changed username before (cardamon), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:50 (four years ago) link

She's a stupid pathological prick isn't she.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:52 (four years ago) link

xxxp

I'd be more interested in reading why the governing party's AS (3 MP's currently being investigated for unambiguous AS) isn't making any good articles right now. Corbyn is finished now and they are the fucking British party of government for possibly the next fucking 5 years now!

calzino, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:54 (four years ago) link

My pleasure, LBI!

And good luck, jim. Tbh I think everyone needs a break from this unending shitshow, be it only for a week. It's easy for me to say as I'm currently back in Canada for the holidays but a modicum of self-preserving sanity should come first, even (especially?) when a relentless war is being waged.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link

I’m transcribing a load of interviews of architects this week so it’s been hard not to peek at the thread/socials as I break every 10 minutes of audio to shake my hand and think about possible RSI. Decision made: sending these recordings to a transcriber starting in 2020, my friend’s partner charges a quid a minute of audio.

santa clause four (suzy), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 00:11 (four years ago) link

There appear to be 37 ERG MPs — even if they went through the lobbies with every opposition MP, they wouldn’t have enough to defeat the government. https://t.co/T4po8clI8Q

— Tom Kibasi (@TomKibasi) December 17, 2019

what does it even matter anymore when the cabinet is 99.9% comprised of right wing headcases/so called moderates who are actually psychopathic nihilists. But ERG do look like a very diverse and great bunch of lads.

calzino, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 02:33 (four years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/v6sgZckmcq

— wint (@dril) December 16, 2019

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 05:16 (four years ago) link

struggling to keep up with thread so apologies if this has been posted before. i thought it was interesting:

So I've been thinking about Britain's electoral psychology. Seems to me that this is something that we should all do to make sense of mess we're in. For those of you who don’t think psychology is important, consider that a lot of politics is about how people THINK and FEEL. 1/

— Richard Bentall #FBPE (@RichardBentall) December 17, 2019



i’m also wary of it. or at least it’s very good as far as it goes but it would be a mistake to confuse “packaging” with content, for instance.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 07:33 (four years ago) link

idk. The campaign was cast as socialism by others in the press. There was a lot of talk of fairness.

Also, if we must talk policies consider how. @LouiseMensch (who I don’t normally agree with) makes good point that UK public are small ‘c’ conservatives and allergic to ideology. Choose words wisely. ‘Socialism’, ‘comrades’ are toxic; ‘fairness’ and ‘community’ are not. 17/

— Richard Bentall #FBPE (@RichardBentall) December 17, 2019

That leaves community and I think forgetting communities for package is where a lot of the wrong lies. Which means that leaders and their supposed lack of qualities would matter less. Again, this goes back to the Lab left having no offer at council level.

It's also pretty confused. So one tweet has a go at Venezuela but another is almost praising Bismarck for lying to the public because Cummings' strategy worked except that...many people on the left warned people not to fuck with what happened in 2016. That includes Corbyn. Like, a lot of people could have told you people wanted Brexit to go through. The polls and how they broke for remain/leave by constituency level were very, very clear.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 08:02 (four years ago) link

I didn't hear much talk about socialism, I heard a lot about Marxism from the Tories and the media though.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 08:12 (four years ago) link

Sorry Fizzles you made basically the same re: packaging, missed it. Just a slight expansion it xp

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 08:15 (four years ago) link

The Marxist stuff was thrown a lot in 2017 too and the public did not turn on Corbyn after the Manchester attacks. Why are people forgetting it?

Willing to bet that people got fed of the legal and parliamentary games. That's why Lab candidates like Nandy going on about listening is bullshit. How are you listening? It's just a passive process. Beat the racist scum and do something (anything!) for the rest. Try to pretend you care.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 08:22 (four years ago) link

We need this here.

The French enjoy free and universal health care, free schools and universities, a maximum 35-hour workweek, six weeks’ annual vacation, paid parental leave and an enviable welfare safety net.

So why is France always fired up? Blame malaise. https://t.co/1YVIOtGHvJ

— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) December 13, 2019

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 08:35 (four years ago) link

That article is a fucking laugh. Anglo-French people going about how people are spoilt? Wanna come here instead?

Take out the Anglos, seriously.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 08:38 (four years ago) link

Ugh, Newsnight on the Labour Party's lack of patriotism. Fucking awful.

― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Tuesday, December 17, 2019 11:17 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

IT was Newsnight where Owen Smith started going on about lack of Patriotism in Corbyn back when he was challenging him over leadershio. I thought it was going a bit far at the time. Is that a standing trope with them or just something they feel has stuck before.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 08:38 (four years ago) link

that article is amazing. hmm what could the connection be between rights and popular pressure... what a paradox

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 08:42 (four years ago) link

That article is a fucking laugh. Anglo-French people going about how people are spoilt? Wanna come here instead?

Take out the Anglos, seriously.

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, December 18, 2019 8:38 AM (forty-three seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

I thought the UK had a uniquely privileged position inside teh Eu where things had been bent to fit them and elements were still feeling it just wasn't good enough for tehm. Will wait to see just how great a mess that leads to but seems quite a big one at this juncture.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 08:44 (four years ago) link

Anne-Elisabeth Moutet is French, but seems happy enough, perhaps because she was educated abroad and has spent time in the United States.

Lol that article is a fucking joke.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 08:49 (four years ago) link


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