I wonder if the problem in our culture is that it's too Esav focused.
The problem is that it's too Simeon and Levi focused! Yes those two fucking maniacs get their comeuppance when dad dies but the idea that "yes I murdered every man in Shechem but what was I supposed to do.... NOTHING?" is a normal male thought process is bizarrely still present in the contemporary world
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link
Also as someone raising two boys in the UK I wonder what the culture is like here, and if it has changed since I was a teenager. We don't have jocks really, but we certainly still have the lads.
I suspect we might have jocks if rugby was the national sport and not football.
― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link
I didn't need another reason to hate rugby, but I'll take it.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link
in the US rugby is the official sport of lesbians
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link
there's also a lesbian rugby following in the uk
― xmas respecter (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link
while at the same time it is the sport of the uk equivalent of the preppy country club date rapist in an 80s US film
― xmas respecter (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link
Instead of printing that article they should just have printed that sentence.
― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link
ime the rugby society are the worst people in any university, ours was led by a man called "keemo" which was a nickname they'd given him because he didn't have any hair.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link
wait, I thought roller derby was the official sport of lesbians
― Simon H., Wednesday, 18 December 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link
that too. Also basketball and soccer.
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link
what I actually mean is that as a USian I associate rugby almost exclusively with lesbians whereas surely in the Commonwealth it's mostly lads what play rugby
I guess Megan Rapinoe being the most famous US soccer player means people might mostly think of lesbians when they think of soccer here too.
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link
Never heard of this lesbian rugby business. It's totally what the jocks at my school played.
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
(which was in the Commonwealth but I have also spent a lot of time in the US without hearing of this association)
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link
my lesbian daughter has never heard of rugby as a lesbian sport but we live in France where rugby is probably the second biggest sport (unless pétanque counts)
― L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link
I always thought softball was lesbians' sport of choice.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link
ok boomer
― insecurity bear (sic), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link
lesbians' sport of choice is any sport they enjoy playing or watching others play
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link
Lacrosse was the sport of choice amongst lesbians in my day.
― nickn, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:22 (four years ago) link
Jai Alai is the official sport of genderqueer
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link
we need to dig deeper into this, for example, what is the lesbian board game of choice?
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:31 (four years ago) link
Sorry. Oh wait, that's Canadians.
― nickn, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link
Canadians were the sport of choice amongst lesbians in your day?
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link
I've got the scars to prove it
― that said, I’d prefer a single serving of you (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link
i have to be honest that i have a deep aversion to guys using the word "dude" it like revolts mei can't pinpoint exactly what it is.......
― surm, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link
:-(
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
omg i'm sorry! i mean, i'm trying to work on it
― surm, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link
also who cares what i think really
― surm, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link
It's okay, du- um... bud?
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link
hehehehe i like bud!
― surm, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link
the gas station parking lot was a complete mess last week so I ended up pulling up next to the air pump, and sure enough, someone pulled up as soon as I got out of my car needing to use it. "dude, are you using that air compressor?" "nah man, I'll move!"
hadn't been called dude in the wild for some time
― mh, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link
really! i feel like it happens all the time did you like it?
― surm, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link
I get "hey man" a lot more than "dude" and it was somewhat refreshing
― mh, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 22:25 (four years ago) link
For some reason I was thinking about my late grandfather this morning and how I grew up admiring him as a "tough guy who had a sensitive side" and thinking about how (according to his own self description) had been sensitive when he was young but had to be tough because of circumstances (growing up in a poor neighborhood, fighting in the pacific theater etc.). But then it hit me, aren't all boys born sensitive? There's no such thing as a tough baby.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive)
you have clearly not been watching enough animal planet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsVk7MNNAeQ
"hehehehe i like bud!
― surm"
everybody likes bud these days, even people who don't live in oregon
― Agnes Motörhead (rushomancy), Thursday, 19 December 2019 00:23 (four years ago) link
i've been called "boss" a few times but it's always when someone is trying to upsell me on an air filter at an oil change place.
― omar little, Thursday, 19 December 2019 00:24 (four years ago) link
like, half the farmers/fishermen i know write poetry, and most of the honours class lads still go home to play in the parish cups
― Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac)
i think there's something in that, tho of course the Irish acceptance and appreciation of poetry is hardly a universal
― a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague)
ahem
www.fisherpoets.org
― Agnes Motörhead (rushomancy), Thursday, 19 December 2019 00:24 (four years ago) link
I hate "boss".
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 December 2019 00:25 (four years ago) link
is _that_ why it's banned in the phillipines, i thought it was the rampant match fixing
― Agnes Motörhead (rushomancy), Thursday, 19 December 2019 00:25 (four years ago) link
― mh
you can have the best of both worlds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AaiQVAG0gQ
― Agnes Motörhead (rushomancy), Thursday, 19 December 2019 00:26 (four years ago) link
Likewise, and "chief" is even worse (I get that now and then).
― nickn, Thursday, 19 December 2019 00:38 (four years ago) link
My tortured joke above was for the "favorite board game" question. "Sorry" is a game (may be only cards, no board) and the joke was that Canadians say "sorry" a lot (and they pronounce it "soary").
― nickn, Thursday, 19 December 2019 00:40 (four years ago) link
i get 'boss' at the bodega; it's not great, but whatever
― mookieproof, Thursday, 19 December 2019 00:50 (four years ago) link
Lol, nickn. I had assumed your joke was "oh wait, lacrosse is the official sport of CANADIANS, not lesbians" since iirc lacrosse IS the official national sport of Canada.
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Thursday, 19 December 2019 03:04 (four years ago) link
― nickn
sorry about that
(nb i am not canadian)
― Agnes Motörhead (rushomancy), Thursday, 19 December 2019 05:06 (four years ago) link
I saw a film noir about a jai alai player who got murdered by one of his many mistresses, after he got her pregnant, then left to go pro in Cuba. He did not seem genderqueer.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 19 December 2019 08:49 (four years ago) link
when I worked in a caff we used to call the boss "chief" just to wind him up. "Squire" is even better for insincere displays of respect.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 19 December 2019 08:58 (four years ago) link
Can't beat 'big yin', ask Bobby Gillespie.
― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 December 2019 09:22 (four years ago) link
was watching a doc about Clarence Adams (black US soldier who defected to China after becoming a POW during Korean war) and he said how initially he was spoken to quite cordially (and often addressed in some Chinese word for comrade or something) in his first period in China, but then in the early days of the Cultural Revolution he noticed people started calling him "mister". And he said something like when you become a "mister" that means you are less than a human being and are in grave danger + you need to get yr ass out of there fast!
I chuckle to myself when Asian taxi drivers call me "boss".
― calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 09:22 (four years ago) link
guessing they called him "shifu" which is just used for taxi drivers and repairmen ime. if someone isn't referring to you as some sort of long-lost family member then it does sound like they are distancing themself from you.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 19 December 2019 09:33 (four years ago) link
my mom still calls some people 'cheap charlie'.
― Yerac, Thursday, 19 December 2019 09:52 (four years ago) link