also 'socially liberal' Blairism was very illiberal, unlike Corbyn project which literally enlisted the Liberty director who had clashed so often with Blairism's illiberalism.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 22 December 2019 12:48 (four years ago) link
Unfortunately all these words are completely meaningless and mean whatever it is people want them to mean at any given time
― anvil, Sunday, 22 December 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link
Yeah I was annoyed at that “story” too. There are a lot of clueless wankers reading tea leaves with unwarranted certainty and ventriloquising Northern voters they had never thought about before last Thursday; some of them are under 30.
― Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Sunday, 22 December 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link
tbf to the Observer spoke to someone from Oxford, that's about some distance north of the York Way.
― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 December 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/dec/22/community-union-acorn-reports-glut-of-applicationsIts popularity appears to be a sign of growing appetite for non-party political action, not only as people brace for five more years of Conservative government but also as they lose faith with Labour’s ability to deliver change.Does it?
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 December 2019 23:58 (four years ago) link
great work lads, but you should have just supported and voted Labour instead of undermining them for 3 years and then some people might not have required charitable volunteer work to help them get the fucking basics.
― calzino, Monday, 23 December 2019 00:04 (four years ago) link
Alex Sobel did a good post on this concept the other day, labour do need to reconnect to poor as fuck communities and helping them as far as they can with austerity driven problems - then at least come election time - they won't be counting on their "strong ground game".
― calzino, Monday, 23 December 2019 00:29 (four years ago) link
It looks like you need to sign in to read stories now - which is possibly the push i needed to stop annoying myself.
― Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Monday, 23 December 2019 08:41 (four years ago) link
On desktop, at least. I can continue to annoy myself on mobile devices for the moment.
― Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Monday, 23 December 2019 08:47 (four years ago) link
If you just press “not now” on desktop you can just continue reading.
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 08:51 (four years ago) link
Rats!
― Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Monday, 23 December 2019 08:58 (four years ago) link
In a world of online everything, a real #PeriodOfReflection could benefit us allJohn Harris
yes indeed John. People should spend more time away from wireless broadband and garbage opinion pieces by garbage people.
― calzino, Monday, 23 December 2019 09:03 (four years ago) link
They are experimenting though so let's be hopeful! xp
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 December 2019 09:03 (four years ago) link
i might be saying the obvious here, but isn't north london liberal elite considered dog whistle antisemitism?
― plax (ico), Monday, 23 December 2019 09:18 (four years ago) link
― Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Monday, 23 December 2019 08:41 (fifty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Monday, 23 December 2019 08:47 (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 08:51 (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Monday, 23 December 2019 08:58 (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol I had this exact journey yesterday
― plax (ico), Monday, 23 December 2019 09:38 (four years ago) link
You have read 88 articles in the last two months. More people, like you, are reading and supporting the Guardian’s independent, investigative journalism than ever before...
at least they help you gauge how appalling your online media reading habits have become these days.. sheeit need to stop giving them so many clicks.
― calzino, Monday, 23 December 2019 09:46 (four years ago) link
yeah i was shocked when it quoted me 90 the other day but i had a #PeriodOfReflection and decided i wouldn't have paid for any of them
― a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 December 2019 09:52 (four years ago) link
It's sad, the thing they once were good for was investigative journalism but they have really stepped that down in recent years (I guess as they became MI5's comms office)
― plax (ico), Monday, 23 December 2019 09:56 (four years ago) link
I think the web version is significantly worse than the paper because of the prominence it gives to puff (those live blogs and comment pieces particularly)
― plax (ico), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:00 (four years ago) link
yeah i miss having a newspaper tbh, this is a really good example of the web as a backward technological step
― a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:04 (four years ago) link
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:05 (four years ago) link
"as they became MI5's comms office"
a lot of people seem incapable of grasping this development at the Graun. I causally dropped it in a conversation with some middle class gammon type in a pub and got scolded talking "absolute bollocks"!
― calzino, Monday, 23 December 2019 10:05 (four years ago) link
Speaking of, I saw awful aristocrat Marina Hyde randomly deciding to have a go at Aaron Bastani on twitter yesterday. How singularly awful do you have to be to make me feel bad for Aaron fucking Bastani? Also, I just learned that she had a thing with Piers Morgan, how does she manage to pass as a liberal darling again?
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:08 (four years ago) link
Because nothing means anything
― plax (ico), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:10 (four years ago) link
her and Brooker should be liquidated in the first wave of terror.. gulags are too good for 'em!
― calzino, Monday, 23 December 2019 10:11 (four years ago) link
speaking of gulagshttps://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/dec/23/the-expats-dilemma-i-want-my-child-to-grow-up-in-australia-but-i-didnt-want-to-come-home
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:17 (four years ago) link
You just now learned Marina Hyde has poor judgement re: Piers Morgan? It wasn’t just a drunken mistake either, and it was around the time she worked for the Sun. Yep, someone who doesn’t strictly need to earn/work (she lives in South Ken and you don’t buy there on a Graun salary) thought ‘oh, I’ll begin my career at the shittiest tabloid’.
She is now married to someone quite high up in the BBC, fwiw.
― santa clause four (suzy), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:23 (four years ago) link
Legit just discussing this with one of my Aussie friends. Had some choice words about this piece, in particular this risible bit:
I loathed the driving, the bland strawberries, my daughter’s all-white kindergarten, speaking my own language.
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:25 (four years ago) link
People on phone lines helped, waiters were kind, our nostril hairs grew back.
I mean, you could cut back on the coke in Paris too.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:31 (four years ago) link
To the greater world, Australia has an unwavering magical quality; people’s eyes dance, they see koalas cuddling people riding kangaroos in the twinkling outback sea. They’ll never come – it’s what, an eight-hour flight? So the dream grows and mutates, the land of endless summers and calm and beauty, where everyone has a backyard (even in the city!) and everyone is happy.
What? This woman is delusional. When I think of Australia I think of snakes, spiders, chundering drunks, and prematurely wrinkled squinting racists and homophobes.
― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:34 (four years ago) link
i can't read that piece, i'm trying to get my christmas goodwill head on
― a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:38 (four years ago) link
I would advise against it. Not that I managed the whole thing.
― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:42 (four years ago) link
I like how she says her daughter’s kindergarten was all white. As though that wasn’t a reflection of the area she chose to live in! Guarantee she only socialised with white people in Paris.
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:42 (four years ago) link
^^ "We moved back to North Melbourne and found some of our pathetic friends from 12 years before had moved to the suburbs to be close to their parents. The sad losers! So we moved to a seaside town of Victorian infrastructure (the era not the state) seven hours away to be near my parents, and somehow lots of ppl in town there were white and you needed a car to get around? This is definitely the fault of the country, not us."
― insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 23 December 2019 11:09 (four years ago) link
Water you could drink from the tap.
motherfucker we have great water here
― L'assie (Euler), Monday, 23 December 2019 11:52 (four years ago) link
Yeah I was thinking, what the fuck was that about?!
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 11:53 (four years ago) link
When I went on a school trip to France in the 80's we were told not to drink the tapwater!
― calzino, Monday, 23 December 2019 12:09 (four years ago) link
http://www.comicbrits.co.uk/TV/Dont_Drink_The_Water/Dont_Drink_The_Water_DVD.jpg
― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:10 (four years ago) link
how does she manage to pass as a liberal darling again?
1. Get Blue Tick2. Withering Criticism of person on the right for lack of manners / class / not doing it right
― anvil, Monday, 23 December 2019 12:34 (four years ago) link
The water is hard in Paris and you get lots of calcium build up in your taps and appliances, whereas in Australia you don't, I'm assuming that's what she means. Not sure that means anything in terms of drinkability though.
The French do get all dreamy about Australia in my experience, they don't have the tropes the British have about Australians all being redneck racists.
― Zelda Zonk, Monday, 23 December 2019 12:40 (four years ago) link
She is Australian herself though? The husband is French.
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:42 (four years ago) link
The French do get all dreamy about Australia in my experience, they don't have the tropes the British have about Australians all being redneck racists.racism part of the attraction for the French surely
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:46 (four years ago) link
I mean...I bet the husband wasn’t handwringing about the all-white school.
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:48 (four years ago) link
Still not sure what exactly is dreamy about Australia tbh, even if you ignore the drawbacks mentioned earlier.
― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:51 (four years ago) link
best bit may be that this couple's choice of continent to live on is supposedly dictated by the whim of their 4-year-old. nice try pinning it all on her jfc.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:51 (four years ago) link
... and I didn't even mention hotter than hell and thousands of miles away from anywhere else.
― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:52 (four years ago) link
For the French, Australia is exotic in a way it just isn't for the British, the British seem to see Australia as a sort of Essex writ large.
As for racism, having lived for long periods in London, Paris and Sydney, I'd say the levels of racism are about the same in all three cities. The British hide it a bit better, perhaps
― Zelda Zonk, Monday, 23 December 2019 12:56 (four years ago) link
speaking of gulags
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/dec/23/the-expats-dilemma-i-want-my-child-to-grow-up-in-australia-but-i-didnt-want-to-come-home
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 December 2019 bookmarkflaglink
Like how you've been radicalised Tracer.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 December 2019 12:57 (four years ago) link
Possibly not a good idea for this woman to claim that 'to the greater world, Australia has an unwavering magical quality' in a British newspaper then?
― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Monday, 23 December 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link
racism part of the attraction for the French surely
This is not the first trait that springs to mind when French people think about Australia. Like Zelda said, they know far less about it than the British (for obvious reasons), and mostly fantasize about the landscape.
― pomenitul, Monday, 23 December 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link