yeah i miss having a newspaper tbh, this is a really good example of the web as a backward technological step
― a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:04 (four years ago) link
i might be saying the obvious here, but isn't north london liberal elite considered dog whistle antisemitism?
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:05 (four years ago) link
"as they became MI5's comms office"
a lot of people seem incapable of grasping this development at the Graun. I causally dropped it in a conversation with some middle class gammon type in a pub and got scolded talking "absolute bollocks"!
― calzino, Monday, 23 December 2019 10:05 (four years ago) link
Speaking of, I saw awful aristocrat Marina Hyde randomly deciding to have a go at Aaron Bastani on twitter yesterday. How singularly awful do you have to be to make me feel bad for Aaron fucking Bastani? Also, I just learned that she had a thing with Piers Morgan, how does she manage to pass as a liberal darling again?
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:08 (four years ago) link
Because nothing means anything
― plax (ico), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:10 (four years ago) link
her and Brooker should be liquidated in the first wave of terror.. gulags are too good for 'em!
― calzino, Monday, 23 December 2019 10:11 (four years ago) link
speaking of gulagshttps://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/dec/23/the-expats-dilemma-i-want-my-child-to-grow-up-in-australia-but-i-didnt-want-to-come-home
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:17 (four years ago) link
You just now learned Marina Hyde has poor judgement re: Piers Morgan? It wasn’t just a drunken mistake either, and it was around the time she worked for the Sun. Yep, someone who doesn’t strictly need to earn/work (she lives in South Ken and you don’t buy there on a Graun salary) thought ‘oh, I’ll begin my career at the shittiest tabloid’.
She is now married to someone quite high up in the BBC, fwiw.
― santa clause four (suzy), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:23 (four years ago) link
Legit just discussing this with one of my Aussie friends. Had some choice words about this piece, in particular this risible bit:
I loathed the driving, the bland strawberries, my daughter’s all-white kindergarten, speaking my own language.
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:25 (four years ago) link
People on phone lines helped, waiters were kind, our nostril hairs grew back.
I mean, you could cut back on the coke in Paris too.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:31 (four years ago) link
To the greater world, Australia has an unwavering magical quality; people’s eyes dance, they see koalas cuddling people riding kangaroos in the twinkling outback sea. They’ll never come – it’s what, an eight-hour flight? So the dream grows and mutates, the land of endless summers and calm and beauty, where everyone has a backyard (even in the city!) and everyone is happy.
What? This woman is delusional. When I think of Australia I think of snakes, spiders, chundering drunks, and prematurely wrinkled squinting racists and homophobes.
― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:34 (four years ago) link
i can't read that piece, i'm trying to get my christmas goodwill head on
― a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:38 (four years ago) link
I would advise against it. Not that I managed the whole thing.
― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:42 (four years ago) link
I like how she says her daughter’s kindergarten was all white. As though that wasn’t a reflection of the area she chose to live in! Guarantee she only socialised with white people in Paris.
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 10:42 (four years ago) link
^^ "We moved back to North Melbourne and found some of our pathetic friends from 12 years before had moved to the suburbs to be close to their parents. The sad losers! So we moved to a seaside town of Victorian infrastructure (the era not the state) seven hours away to be near my parents, and somehow lots of ppl in town there were white and you needed a car to get around? This is definitely the fault of the country, not us."
― insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 23 December 2019 11:09 (four years ago) link
Water you could drink from the tap.
motherfucker we have great water here
― L'assie (Euler), Monday, 23 December 2019 11:52 (four years ago) link
Yeah I was thinking, what the fuck was that about?!
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 11:53 (four years ago) link
When I went on a school trip to France in the 80's we were told not to drink the tapwater!
― calzino, Monday, 23 December 2019 12:09 (four years ago) link
http://www.comicbrits.co.uk/TV/Dont_Drink_The_Water/Dont_Drink_The_Water_DVD.jpg
― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:10 (four years ago) link
how does she manage to pass as a liberal darling again?
1. Get Blue Tick2. Withering Criticism of person on the right for lack of manners / class / not doing it right
― anvil, Monday, 23 December 2019 12:34 (four years ago) link
The water is hard in Paris and you get lots of calcium build up in your taps and appliances, whereas in Australia you don't, I'm assuming that's what she means. Not sure that means anything in terms of drinkability though.
The French do get all dreamy about Australia in my experience, they don't have the tropes the British have about Australians all being redneck racists.
― Zelda Zonk, Monday, 23 December 2019 12:40 (four years ago) link
She is Australian herself though? The husband is French.
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:42 (four years ago) link
The French do get all dreamy about Australia in my experience, they don't have the tropes the British have about Australians all being redneck racists.racism part of the attraction for the French surely
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:46 (four years ago) link
I mean...I bet the husband wasn’t handwringing about the all-white school.
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:48 (four years ago) link
Still not sure what exactly is dreamy about Australia tbh, even if you ignore the drawbacks mentioned earlier.
― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:51 (four years ago) link
best bit may be that this couple's choice of continent to live on is supposedly dictated by the whim of their 4-year-old. nice try pinning it all on her jfc.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:51 (four years ago) link
... and I didn't even mention hotter than hell and thousands of miles away from anywhere else.
― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:52 (four years ago) link
For the French, Australia is exotic in a way it just isn't for the British, the British seem to see Australia as a sort of Essex writ large.
As for racism, having lived for long periods in London, Paris and Sydney, I'd say the levels of racism are about the same in all three cities. The British hide it a bit better, perhaps
― Zelda Zonk, Monday, 23 December 2019 12:56 (four years ago) link
speaking of gulags
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/dec/23/the-expats-dilemma-i-want-my-child-to-grow-up-in-australia-but-i-didnt-want-to-come-home
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 December 2019 bookmarkflaglink
Like how you've been radicalised Tracer.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 December 2019 12:57 (four years ago) link
Possibly not a good idea for this woman to claim that 'to the greater world, Australia has an unwavering magical quality' in a British newspaper then?
― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Monday, 23 December 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link
racism part of the attraction for the French surely
This is not the first trait that springs to mind when French people think about Australia. Like Zelda said, they know far less about it than the British (for obvious reasons), and mostly fantasize about the landscape.
― pomenitul, Monday, 23 December 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link
The British hide it a bit better, perhaps
Not doing a very good job at the moment tbf.
― pomenitul, Monday, 23 December 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link
Was gonna say!
― calzino, Monday, 23 December 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link
hiding it is good. France should hide it more!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 December 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link
Yes, that is exactly what I was trying to say.
― pomenitul, Monday, 23 December 2019 14:01 (four years ago) link
Would just like to point out that as horribly racist as Australia can be, a lot of those doing it in public life here are bloody transplanted english people who come over here and then go on endlessly about migrants.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 25 December 2019 12:00 (four years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/10/bleak-times-thrive-last-column-guardian?CMP
The Guardian is legit worse without Gary Younge.
― Matt DC, Friday, 10 January 2020 08:56 (four years ago) link
absolutely. moving and and incisive piece.
― Fizzles, Friday, 10 January 2020 09:01 (four years ago) link
Seriously he has been consistently their best columnist for at least a decade which is a long time to keep up a run of general OTMness.
― Matt DC, Friday, 10 January 2020 09:06 (four years ago) link
I can't understand why such a humble and lovely guy would want to leave that tawdry clickbait factory full of knaves and shitehawks!
― calzino, Friday, 10 January 2020 09:29 (four years ago) link
Obviously much better what usually passes for content there
The last paragraph made me think of his interview with Richard Spencer from a couple of years ago where he struggled (I know he isn't an interviewer)
― anvil, Friday, 10 January 2020 09:35 (four years ago) link
it's ok, they still have adrian chiles
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/16/adrian-chiles-must-we-settle-for-fanny
― Paperbag raita (ledge), Thursday, 16 January 2020 10:06 (four years ago) link
cunt writes about fanny
― que pasa picasso (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 16 January 2020 10:19 (four years ago) link
Irregular how-the-fuck-do-you-get-paid-for-this: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/17/eu-nationals-fearful-brexit-windrush
All it took was an ill-judged change in policy whose consequences were not foreseen, followed by a reluctance to admit mistakes when the victims started emerging.
― steer karma (gyac), Friday, 17 January 2020 09:03 (four years ago) link
This columnist is dreadful.
― the pinefox, Friday, 17 January 2020 09:48 (four years ago) link
I have never known him be anything but laid-back, and although he’s originally Dutch, in theory he should have nothing to fear from Brexit: he has settled status, confirming the right to live and work here with his English wife and family after 31 January, just as before.
He's just 'Dutch' then, not 'originally Dutch'.
But now he’s fearful. What if, the next time he needs to renew his passport for a family holiday, the computer says no?
Renew his.... Dutch passport for a family holiday? OK. Why would the Dutch government's computer say no, or have any opinion at all about his settled status in the UK?
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 January 2020 09:51 (four years ago) link
Yeah I can't graps what she means.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 17 January 2020 09:58 (four years ago) link
The Original Dutch
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Olddutch.jpg
― Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Friday, 17 January 2020 10:37 (four years ago) link
I have no idea who the notional reader of Hinsliff columns is.
If Twitter is anything to go by, Chiles' latest column has successfully propelled him from national laughing stock to international laughing stock. I don't know whether that's a net positive for Viner.
― ShariVari, Friday, 17 January 2020 10:38 (four years ago) link