I know!
― steer karma (gyac), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 13:34 (four years ago) link
I think given everything else we know about Sanders, gyac's charitable read makes sense. I don't believe dude is a misogynist, but it was definitely a tone-deaf thing for him to say.
― may the force leave us alone (zchyrs), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 13:36 (four years ago) link
nobody knows what anybody said
it's incumbent on voters to assess ppl's character the best we can and try despite our biases not to get pulled into this stuff
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 13:39 (four years ago) link
What’s wrong with just staying neutral on this one? We don’t know the precise nuance of the original comment. It could have been as Warren described it or as Sanders described it.
― jmm, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 13:43 (four years ago) link
I am “neutral” but that Henwood bullshit made me see red
― 💠 (crüt), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 13:45 (four years ago) link
My read wasn’t charitable per se, but honestly I feel like he might have phrased it clumsily. It is a fact that sexism counts against female candidates and it will definitely factor into any female candidate in the presidential election, especially against someone who’s weaponised misogyny and male resentment as totally as Trump. That’s not the same as saying “...so let’s play it safe and you don’t bother standing, little lady.”
― steer karma (gyac), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 13:45 (four years ago) link
― jmm, Tuesday, January 14, 2020 8:43 AM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
both camps of people now view you as satan, not just one or the other
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 14:00 (four years ago) link
Saw this going around last night:
“In my view a woman could be elected president of the United States.” — Bernie Sanders, 1988 pic.twitter.com/WJd847DdmA— Meagan Day (@meaganmday) January 13, 2020
― One must put up barriers to keep oneself intact (Sund4r), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 14:14 (four years ago) link
So the big James O’keefe scoop is video of a Bernie staffers saying Chapo type stuff
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 14:15 (four years ago) link
whomst gives a fuck
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 14:33 (four years ago) link
Scoop pic.twitter.com/GYHwpLeDUZ— Jules (@Julian_Epp) January 14, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link
xp exactly, Simon
I'm not going to waste any of my progressively limited mental capacity on this junk because none of it changes what candidates are saying about policy, how they'd govern, and who they'd appoint to positions or nominate to their cabinet
overall, this has been a surprisingly clean race and it'll get less so, but digging through half-remembered anonymously-sourced conversations that only a handful of people were privy to is scraping the bottom of the barrel. I've had respectful interactions with a number of campaigns, and anyone working for them in any official capacity has been very cautious when speaking to prospective voters.
― babu frik fan account (mh), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 16:03 (four years ago) link
This speaks to my following point: Sanders handled the whole dumb thing like a professional politician. He put his chin up, said he respects his friend, etc., and got on with it. This panic from the other side is unwarranted. https://t.co/YXnnMqdNUQ— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) January 13, 2020
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 19:25 (four years ago) link
i’m SCREAMING hot girls said bernie or bust https://t.co/BJKNW9HdHs— sippin on dat (@vivafalastin) January 13, 2020
― steer karma (gyac), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 19:28 (four years ago) link
defunct lj comm fashin
stop doing this thing where I think you mean lj instead of lj! 😅
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 19:31 (four years ago) link
Defunct lj communist fashism
― steer karma (gyac), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 19:31 (four years ago) link
ET TU, ELIZABETH? 😔
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 23:18 (four years ago) link
Fuck her. Awful campaigner but p good democrat. Lost all credibility this week. Way to go with the kamikaze attack that left you without a paddle. F.O.D.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 23:20 (four years ago) link
Liar
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 23:21 (four years ago) link
☕️
You know why these poorly reported rumors are turning into overblown stories? They have nothing to attack Bernie on. They’ve spent the last 5+ years digging, attacking, smearing him and his allies. Yet he’s winning. So when there’s nothing, well you know..they create the drama— Nomiki Konst (@NomikiKonst) January 15, 2020
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 23:23 (four years ago) link
yes that must be it
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 23:25 (four years ago) link
flappy are you really just hearing about this
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 23:27 (four years ago) link
bc you’re very invested
my gut says that Bernie almost certainly doesn't believe that a woman couldn't win a presidential election / beat Trump, but he very likely said something in the meeting with Warren that could easily be interpreted that way, and both their recollections are "true" based on their own subjective experience. nb: my gut is diseased
― uncrut gems (crüt), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 23:50 (four years ago) link
That's my interpretation too, hence my *shrug*
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 23:56 (four years ago) link
Sometimes when people are wringing their hands over how uniquely mean and awful Sanders supporters are for, say, posting a cartoon emoji, I check and see if this is still up and hey, what do you know pic.twitter.com/k4HUEgRxaX— Molly (@_uncoolniece) January 15, 2020
― steer karma (gyac), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 23:57 (four years ago) link
crüt otm
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 16 January 2020 00:08 (four years ago) link
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, January 15, 2020 6:27 PM (forty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, January 15, 2020 6:27 PM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I do have a life outside of ilx!Haven't been posting as much
― flappy bird, Thursday, 16 January 2020 00:13 (four years ago) link
No I heard about it when it happened, just came in here to blow off some steam after warren betrayed bernie so brutally last night 😔
― flappy bird, Thursday, 16 January 2020 00:15 (four years ago) link
Elizabeth Warren accused Bernie Sanders of calling her a liar on stage after Tuesday's debate. Here's the tense moment. https://t.co/6FkruOfHOj pic.twitter.com/3mduyeJT1c— Anderson Cooper 360° (@AC360) January 16, 2020
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 16 January 2020 01:41 (four years ago) link
CNN needs the clicks.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 January 2020 01:59 (four years ago) link
this fuckin sucks man
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:00 (four years ago) link
uurgfgdhghgjhfgjd why would they get into it like that onstage?
― jmm, Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:02 (four years ago) link
i found it kinda stomach-churning to watch
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:04 (four years ago) link
stupid
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:04 (four years ago) link
This sort of thing happens all the time when two people talk. The speaker believes they have used words that are entirely clear and exactly convey their intended meaning. The listener hears the words and derives a different meaning. When the miscommunication is not immediately detected and clarified, the misunderstanding persists and each version becomes the "true" version to the respective parties.
The later "who is the liar here" disagreement is not only unresolvable when it is framed in those terms, but as soon as you frame it that way you're going to get a lot of pointless and useless animosity. The only road to resolution is through "this is what I thought I heard you say; is that correct?"
Gad! You'd think these two had never been married to anyone.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:04 (four years ago) link
lol at "extraordinary story"
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:06 (four years ago) link
dumb country gets dumb news
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:08 (four years ago) link
Best moment:
STEYER: Hi, I just wanna --
SANDERS: Yeah, good, okay *stomps away*
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:09 (four years ago) link
jesus this is so stupid
― JoeStork, Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:12 (four years ago) link
i lol'd at steyer's awkward little moment, straight out of curb your enthusiasm
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:13 (four years ago) link
"I just wanted to say hi, Bernie"
― One must put up barriers to keep oneself intact (Sund4r), Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:20 (four years ago) link
"I'm such a big fan!"
― jmm, Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:25 (four years ago) link
I picked a good month to stay off Twitter.
― jaymc, Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:29 (four years ago) link
if bernie is her friend, doesn't she have his number or can she email him or something
― forensic plumber (harbl), Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:38 (four years ago) link
The Warren-Sanders feud just got way uglierAnalysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-largeUpdated 8:14 PM ET, Wed January 15, 2020
― ℺☽⋠⏎ (✖), Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:50 (four years ago) link
fox news for liberals
wonder why they had to wait 21 hours to release the audio
― ℺☽⋠⏎ (✖), Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:51 (four years ago) link
milking it
I hate that all this is gonna do is hurt one or more of the two least awful candidates
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:54 (four years ago) link
I guess if they have a guaranteed exclusive story then they might as well drag it out.
― jmm, Thursday, 16 January 2020 02:56 (four years ago) link
It's cool, when Trump beats Biden while losing the popular vote by 6 million we can all donate organs to rebuild RBG from the ground up to make it through another four years.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 16 January 2020 03:32 (four years ago) link