He's been a tarred and feathered criminal but his testimony seems credible. No promises, no demands, just facts
― papa stank (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 January 2020 15:51 (four years ago) link
guys don't harden your heart towards lev
― brownie, Thursday, 16 January 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link
wait that's Quarterflash
Does he distort the facts?
I dunno. Seems like there's no looking forward or turning back. He belongs to the light.
― Yeets don't fail me now (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 January 2020 15:56 (four years ago) link
lol brownie - classic blunder! At least you didn't hit us with Sheena Easton or Laura Branigan.
Politics is a battlefield― Yeets don't fail me now (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, January 16, 2020 9:46 AM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Yeets don't fail me now (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, January 16, 2020 9:46 AM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Lev is a Battlefield
― A perfect transcript of a routine post (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 16 January 2020 16:03 (four years ago) link
otm
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 January 2020 16:18 (four years ago) link
the weirdest thing is parnas is the most perceptive, most interview adept, and maybe the most informed and most skilled person in all of trumpland i've heard so far. by a bit. that makes him neither honest nor credible, but i admit i did not see it coming.
― in a mellow, balmy way (Hunt3r), Thursday, 16 January 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link
One presumes that these flailing, dysfunctional public figures are dependent upon at least a handful of people who are content to stay in the shadows while demonstrating some semblance of competence (however debased those competently-handled acts may be). Like if it's abject morons all the way down they would've blown themselves up on a runway by now.
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 January 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/trump-fire-and-fury-smart-genius-obama-774169%3famp=1
― papa stank (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:05 (four years ago) link
Why u gotta burn fourth-graders so harshly, Newsweek
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:08 (four years ago) link
Newsweek is 100% garbage now, avoid
https://splinternews.com/what-the-hell-is-going-on-at-newsweek-1822742941
― The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link
It's Lev whose head i've seen showing that even his haircut is more there by intention than fact isn't it?Looks like a few black strands combed over nothing in several of the shots I've seen.
BUt did sound like what he was saying on Rachel Maddow was pretty damning. & i think there's more to come tonight isn't there? Think I heard word of a part 2 at the end of the podcast version I was listening to.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:38 (four years ago) link
good luck usa
Hard to overstate how unpredictable talking to voters can be: Melissa from Algona, Iowa, caucused for Bernie in 2016, then voted for a Trump; she supports Medicare for All but supports Buttigieg, but will likely vote for Trump again if Buttigieg doesn’t win the Dem nomination. pic.twitter.com/ZgvQQ7NoW2— Matt Pearce 🦅 (@mattdpearce) January 16, 2020
― mookieproof, Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:49 (four years ago) link
i can...uhm...just....ugh...err....oh my....huh...what?
― papa stank (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:50 (four years ago) link
didn't mean to go full Mystikal there but that is just baffling internal consistency there.
― papa stank (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link
We’re so fucked.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:57 (four years ago) link
Lo... I have been to Iowa, it is indeed a mystical place.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:57 (four years ago) link
yes we're gonna be fucked by this one voter
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:58 (four years ago) link
Yep, and not just the Americans.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 16 January 2020 18:59 (four years ago) link
It's just attention grift
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:11 (four years ago) link
My takeaway is "don't ask people political questions when they're high"
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:13 (four years ago) link
obviously not this one voter . I have not seen anything these last three years culminated by this shit show of a democratic race that would lead me to believe that a large portion of the most vulnerable people in our society will not continue to be fucked.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:14 (four years ago) link
Immediately afterward, Melissa was asked to point to Iran on a map and pointed to a spot in the lower Atlantic Ocean, hundreds of miles from the nearest land
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link
In a groundbreaking NYT interview, a disheveled man loitering outside a 7-11 and wearing a Dire Straits t-shirt as a bandana claims next president will be can of half-eaten peas.
We r doomed.
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link
Who let this man hold our fates in his hand. Who.
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:16 (four years ago) link
uh I would vote for a can of half-eaten peas over Donald J. Trump.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:16 (four years ago) link
peas 2020
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:18 (four years ago) link
LOL, I didn't even notice that I suggested it was a can full of partially-eaten peas rather than a can that had been half consumed. That changes everything.
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:19 (four years ago) link
Canned yam trolls gonna be on you so bad
― in a mellow, balmy way (Hunt3r), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:20 (four years ago) link
ok I have not really followed the Lev Parnas stuff, what did he say and how is it different from what's already revealed?
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
http://www027.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/9-Plant-Based-Proteins-You-Should-Be-Eating.jpeg
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:49 (four years ago) link
Drag 'em, Nancy: https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Nancy-Pelosi-Facebook-ads-misinformation-fake-news-14980860.php
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:50 (four years ago) link
Peas on earth, can it be
― Yeets don't fail me now (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:58 (four years ago) link
the oldest of lunches
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:26 (four years ago) link
is anyone else fallowing this Dmytro Firtash stuff?
Former Rudy Giuliani amigo Lev Parnas may have revealed a staggering scandal on Wednesday, with Ukrainian gas billionaire Dmytro Firtash at the center.The allegation is this: Trump and his legal team offered to have federal foreign bribery charges against Firtash dropped if the oligarch, described by federal prosecutors as an “upper-echelon” associate of the Russian mafia, helped Trump discredit the Mueller investigation and Joe Biden.If corroborated, Parnas’ allegations would implicate Attorney General Bill Barr in the scandal in a deeper way than previously known, and would suggest that federal indictments are up for grabs as a bargaining chip for Trump’s political fortunes.
The allegation is this: Trump and his legal team offered to have federal foreign bribery charges against Firtash dropped if the oligarch, described by federal prosecutors as an “upper-echelon” associate of the Russian mafia, helped Trump discredit the Mueller investigation and Joe Biden.
If corroborated, Parnas’ allegations would implicate Attorney General Bill Barr in the scandal in a deeper way than previously known, and would suggest that federal indictments are up for grabs as a bargaining chip for Trump’s political fortunes.
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link
Even Firtash, is that really new? I thought those two scummy Fox lawyers Joe and Victoria were representing him already, and he pops up a lot in Maddow's book. He's under house arrest in Vienna, right? Like, here's a chunk from the Times in Nov.:
But interviews with the two Ukrainian oligarchs — Dmitry Firtash and Ihor Kolomoisky — as well as with several other people with knowledge of Mr. Giuliani’s dealings, point to a new dimension in his exertions on behalf of his client, Mr. Trump. Taken together, they depict a strategy clearly aimed at leveraging information from politically powerful but legally vulnerable foreign citizens.In the case of Mr. Firtash, an energy tycoon with deep ties to the Kremlin who is facing extradition to the United States on bribery and racketeering charges, one of Mr. Giuliani’s associates has described offering the oligarch help with his Justice Department problems — if Mr. Firtash hired two lawyers who were close to President Trump and were already working with Mr. Giuliani on his dirt-digging mission. Mr. Firtash said the offer was made in late June when he met with Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, both Soviet-born businessmen involved in Mr. Giuliani’s Ukraine pursuit.Mr. Parnas’s lawyer, Joseph A. Bondy, confirmed that account and added that his client had met with Mr. Firtash at Mr. Giuliani’s direction and encouraged the oligarch to help in the hunt for compromising information “as part of any potential resolution to his extradition matter.”Mr. Firtash’s relationship to the Trump-allied lawyers — Victoria Toensing and Joseph diGenova — has led to intense speculation that he is, at least indirectly, helping to finance Mr. Giuliani’s campaign. But until now he has stayed silent, and many of the details of how and why he came to hire the lawyers have remained murky.
In the case of Mr. Firtash, an energy tycoon with deep ties to the Kremlin who is facing extradition to the United States on bribery and racketeering charges, one of Mr. Giuliani’s associates has described offering the oligarch help with his Justice Department problems — if Mr. Firtash hired two lawyers who were close to President Trump and were already working with Mr. Giuliani on his dirt-digging mission. Mr. Firtash said the offer was made in late June when he met with Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, both Soviet-born businessmen involved in Mr. Giuliani’s Ukraine pursuit.
Mr. Parnas’s lawyer, Joseph A. Bondy, confirmed that account and added that his client had met with Mr. Firtash at Mr. Giuliani’s direction and encouraged the oligarch to help in the hunt for compromising information “as part of any potential resolution to his extradition matter.”
Mr. Firtash’s relationship to the Trump-allied lawyers — Victoria Toensing and Joseph diGenova — has led to intense speculation that he is, at least indirectly, helping to finance Mr. Giuliani’s campaign. But until now he has stayed silent, and many of the details of how and why he came to hire the lawyers have remained murky.
Dunno what this has to do with Barr, though of course I like many suspect Barr knows more than he lets on.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:38 (four years ago) link
This is what Parnas was saying about Barr specifically, last night
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:41 (four years ago) link
Even Firtash, is that really new?
nope, it's been festering for a long time. just like the Parnas/Oleg thing, whose names first started popping up several months ago. but that's why i asked if anyone's been following the Firtash thing - not sure i've seen anyone on ilx mention it.
Dunno what this has to do with Barr
in order to drop federal foreign bribery charges, you gotta have a bill barr
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:43 (four years ago) link
KM watch the inteview, it's not deduction—Parnas is making a first person account of Barr's direct involvement
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:45 (four years ago) link
but i guess josh's larger point is just, what is the point of discussing any of it if it's not going to actually lead to consequences. i guess. i still stubbornly like to pay attention to what crimes are happening and how they happened. that way, as i sit in the smoldering ashes of the post-apocalypse and people are being maddeningly vague about what happened and why, i can be the boss of the trashcan fire
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:45 (four years ago) link
BREAKING NEWS
I JUST GOT IMPEACHED FOR MAKING A PERFECT PHONE CALL!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 16, 2020
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:48 (four years ago) link
ok i lol'd
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:48 (four years ago) link
people around the trashfire are going to be like "...there were bad men...and they told lies...and we paid for those lies..." and i'm going to poke the fire a bit with a stick and then drop the most detailed oral history imaginable over the course of 2 months
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:50 (four years ago) link
xxp the whole decision to impeach was made with the understanding that it probably won't "actually lead to consequences"
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link
think you might be mixing me up with someone, i didn't say parnas was being deductive. he seems like a scumbag and a half, but so does everyone in trump's orbit. he also has a reason to tell the truth and rat on other people (to lessen his own sentence)
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:52 (four years ago) link
Had anyone in the history of the English language actually used the phrase 'perfect phone call' prior to a few months ago?
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:53 (four years ago) link
Outside of like the manager of a call center?
Melissa from Algona is the lionized swing voter, ie a schizo moron
i propose a new clinical term: "caucusoid"
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:54 (four years ago) link
I heard a werewolf making a phone call at Trader Vic'sthe call was perfect
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:54 (four years ago) link