ok I have not really followed the Lev Parnas stuff, what did he say and how is it different from what's already revealed?
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
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― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:49 (four years ago) link
Drag 'em, Nancy: https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Nancy-Pelosi-Facebook-ads-misinformation-fake-news-14980860.php
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:50 (four years ago) link
Peas on earth, can it be
― Yeets don't fail me now (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:58 (four years ago) link
the oldest of lunches
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:26 (four years ago) link
is anyone else fallowing this Dmytro Firtash stuff?
Former Rudy Giuliani amigo Lev Parnas may have revealed a staggering scandal on Wednesday, with Ukrainian gas billionaire Dmytro Firtash at the center.The allegation is this: Trump and his legal team offered to have federal foreign bribery charges against Firtash dropped if the oligarch, described by federal prosecutors as an “upper-echelon” associate of the Russian mafia, helped Trump discredit the Mueller investigation and Joe Biden.If corroborated, Parnas’ allegations would implicate Attorney General Bill Barr in the scandal in a deeper way than previously known, and would suggest that federal indictments are up for grabs as a bargaining chip for Trump’s political fortunes.
The allegation is this: Trump and his legal team offered to have federal foreign bribery charges against Firtash dropped if the oligarch, described by federal prosecutors as an “upper-echelon” associate of the Russian mafia, helped Trump discredit the Mueller investigation and Joe Biden.
If corroborated, Parnas’ allegations would implicate Attorney General Bill Barr in the scandal in a deeper way than previously known, and would suggest that federal indictments are up for grabs as a bargaining chip for Trump’s political fortunes.
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link
Even Firtash, is that really new? I thought those two scummy Fox lawyers Joe and Victoria were representing him already, and he pops up a lot in Maddow's book. He's under house arrest in Vienna, right? Like, here's a chunk from the Times in Nov.:
But interviews with the two Ukrainian oligarchs — Dmitry Firtash and Ihor Kolomoisky — as well as with several other people with knowledge of Mr. Giuliani’s dealings, point to a new dimension in his exertions on behalf of his client, Mr. Trump. Taken together, they depict a strategy clearly aimed at leveraging information from politically powerful but legally vulnerable foreign citizens.In the case of Mr. Firtash, an energy tycoon with deep ties to the Kremlin who is facing extradition to the United States on bribery and racketeering charges, one of Mr. Giuliani’s associates has described offering the oligarch help with his Justice Department problems — if Mr. Firtash hired two lawyers who were close to President Trump and were already working with Mr. Giuliani on his dirt-digging mission. Mr. Firtash said the offer was made in late June when he met with Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, both Soviet-born businessmen involved in Mr. Giuliani’s Ukraine pursuit.Mr. Parnas’s lawyer, Joseph A. Bondy, confirmed that account and added that his client had met with Mr. Firtash at Mr. Giuliani’s direction and encouraged the oligarch to help in the hunt for compromising information “as part of any potential resolution to his extradition matter.”Mr. Firtash’s relationship to the Trump-allied lawyers — Victoria Toensing and Joseph diGenova — has led to intense speculation that he is, at least indirectly, helping to finance Mr. Giuliani’s campaign. But until now he has stayed silent, and many of the details of how and why he came to hire the lawyers have remained murky.
In the case of Mr. Firtash, an energy tycoon with deep ties to the Kremlin who is facing extradition to the United States on bribery and racketeering charges, one of Mr. Giuliani’s associates has described offering the oligarch help with his Justice Department problems — if Mr. Firtash hired two lawyers who were close to President Trump and were already working with Mr. Giuliani on his dirt-digging mission. Mr. Firtash said the offer was made in late June when he met with Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, both Soviet-born businessmen involved in Mr. Giuliani’s Ukraine pursuit.
Mr. Parnas’s lawyer, Joseph A. Bondy, confirmed that account and added that his client had met with Mr. Firtash at Mr. Giuliani’s direction and encouraged the oligarch to help in the hunt for compromising information “as part of any potential resolution to his extradition matter.”
Mr. Firtash’s relationship to the Trump-allied lawyers — Victoria Toensing and Joseph diGenova — has led to intense speculation that he is, at least indirectly, helping to finance Mr. Giuliani’s campaign. But until now he has stayed silent, and many of the details of how and why he came to hire the lawyers have remained murky.
Dunno what this has to do with Barr, though of course I like many suspect Barr knows more than he lets on.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:38 (four years ago) link
This is what Parnas was saying about Barr specifically, last night
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:41 (four years ago) link
Even Firtash, is that really new?
nope, it's been festering for a long time. just like the Parnas/Oleg thing, whose names first started popping up several months ago. but that's why i asked if anyone's been following the Firtash thing - not sure i've seen anyone on ilx mention it.
Dunno what this has to do with Barr
in order to drop federal foreign bribery charges, you gotta have a bill barr
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:43 (four years ago) link
KM watch the inteview, it's not deduction—Parnas is making a first person account of Barr's direct involvement
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:45 (four years ago) link
but i guess josh's larger point is just, what is the point of discussing any of it if it's not going to actually lead to consequences. i guess. i still stubbornly like to pay attention to what crimes are happening and how they happened. that way, as i sit in the smoldering ashes of the post-apocalypse and people are being maddeningly vague about what happened and why, i can be the boss of the trashcan fire
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:45 (four years ago) link
BREAKING NEWS
I JUST GOT IMPEACHED FOR MAKING A PERFECT PHONE CALL!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 16, 2020
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:48 (four years ago) link
ok i lol'd
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:48 (four years ago) link
people around the trashfire are going to be like "...there were bad men...and they told lies...and we paid for those lies..." and i'm going to poke the fire a bit with a stick and then drop the most detailed oral history imaginable over the course of 2 months
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:50 (four years ago) link
xxp the whole decision to impeach was made with the understanding that it probably won't "actually lead to consequences"
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link
think you might be mixing me up with someone, i didn't say parnas was being deductive. he seems like a scumbag and a half, but so does everyone in trump's orbit. he also has a reason to tell the truth and rat on other people (to lessen his own sentence)
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:52 (four years ago) link
Had anyone in the history of the English language actually used the phrase 'perfect phone call' prior to a few months ago?
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:53 (four years ago) link
Outside of like the manager of a call center?
Melissa from Algona is the lionized swing voter, ie a schizo moron
i propose a new clinical term: "caucusoid"
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:54 (four years ago) link
I heard a werewolf making a phone call at Trader Vic'sthe call was perfect
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:54 (four years ago) link
Ha no, Karl: I'm saying *we* don't need to deduce anything, per your "if DOH, then Barr" construction
That there's a guy who was running these errands for Barr saying as much
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:56 (four years ago) link
Lev Parnas is 42 years old holy shit
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:57 (four years ago) link
Whah!?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:58 (four years ago) link
He must have a fantastic-looking picture in his attic
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:59 (four years ago) link
sorry fake news he is 47
still though
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:59 (four years ago) link
ha I was just about to fact-check
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:00 (four years ago) link
it says he was born 1972. xpost He still looks like he is hitting 60 hard.
― Yerac, Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:00 (four years ago) link
Igor Fruman is 15, way more fucked up imo
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:03 (four years ago) link
and Donald Trump is 31!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:08 (four years ago) link
He looks like a 47 year old from the 1970s or 80s.
― ☮️ (peace, man), Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:15 (four years ago) link
LOL, otm. It's like every time a character declares their youthful age in an episode of Twilight Zone or something and I'm all like, yeah okay there Captain AARP.
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 January 2020 22:18 (four years ago) link
there was a really good Twitter thread about this
this is nonsense but did people in the past look older when they were younger?— Brandon McCarthy (@BMcCarthy32) December 27, 2019
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 January 2020 22:21 (four years ago) link
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, January 16, 2020 4:08 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
he's too young to be president. we got him!
― culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Thursday, 16 January 2020 22:23 (four years ago) link
Where's the birth certificate?
― Fetchboy, Thursday, 16 January 2020 22:36 (four years ago) link
mid-20th century Americans smoked, drank, made jokes about 'sensitive' topics w/out shitting themselves
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 January 2020 22:38 (four years ago) link
yeah we gotta make america that great again
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 January 2020 22:40 (four years ago) link
i think they probably shitted themselves some from the drinking
― j., Thursday, 16 January 2020 22:45 (four years ago) link
Didn't we discuss this phenomenon recently wrt that pic of the Mary Tyler Moore cast?
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 16 January 2020 22:47 (four years ago) link
brad i got some Milton Berle joeks for ya
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 January 2020 22:52 (four years ago) link
kids today tell jokes that would make any mid 20th century american shit themselves fuck this snowflake narrative
― marilucia, Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link
Shecky Greene is still alive, let's test yr very dubious theory out on him
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:02 (four years ago) link
imagine showing someone from the 50's a single episode of Rick & Morty or Family Guy. they'd be so triggered lmao
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:02 (four years ago) link
nah comedy is only edgy if it targets a certain race or ethnicity or sexual orientation
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:10 (four years ago) link
/sarcasm
ok then...Family Guy
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:13 (four years ago) link
that twitter thread is insane
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:22 (four years ago) link
Brandon McCarthy is easily a top 10 athlete (retired or not) who tweets. TBF not much competition there.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:52 (four years ago) link
Thanks 2 Uncle Morbsy for demonstrating that the Greatest Generation still remembers how to deliver those old-timey verbal laxatives.
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:55 (four years ago) link
Lol at mid-century "comedians" being edgy in any way except for racism.
― The Traveling Wilkes-Barre's (PBKR), Friday, 17 January 2020 00:35 (four years ago) link
Current profanity alone would curl their toes.
― The Traveling Wilkes-Barre's (PBKR), Friday, 17 January 2020 00:44 (four years ago) link