Favourite Miyazaki film

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is this what I want if I want a DVD collection?

https://www.playtech-asia.com/studio-ghibli-collector-edition-dvd-english-dubbed-hd-version.html

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:58 (four years ago) link

Most of the action unfolds as the credits roll.

wha?

jmm, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link

Takahata is way underrated on this list.

Also, does Grave of the Fireflies not qualify for some reason?

jmm, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:04 (four years ago) link

sleeve - can't say for sure but there are a ton of bootleg, low-quality ghibli box sets online. one red flag: 24 movies on eight discs does not suggest great picture quality or special features.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:12 (four years ago) link

thanks, that's why I asked! any recommendations would be appreciated, I want to start getting hard copies.

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link

I think the GKids DVDs and Blu-Rays are still in print, and widely available in Best Buys and the like. Those do contain the Disney dubbed versions (and I think many of the same extras?) in addition to Japanese with subs, etc.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:23 (four years ago) link

After absconding from the RAF, Porco Rosso transforms back into a human, literally and metaphorically.

Wait what? Did they even watch the movie? This is bonkers.

JoeStork, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:23 (four years ago) link

that list is pretty terribly written, and also clearly doesn't have any need to be a ranked list at all apart from clickbait logic.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:25 (four years ago) link

Also I haven’t watched Tales From Earthsea but I’ve never seen anyone describe it as better than mediocre/disappointing, let alone top-tier Studio Ghibli.

JoeStork, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:28 (four years ago) link

Although its child protagonists are far too young to promise to love each other, this....is one of Studio Ghibli’s best.

Okay.

jmm, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:29 (four years ago) link

My ranked list!

Spirited Away
My Neighbour Totoro
Laputa
Kiki's Delivery Service
Only Yesterday
Princess Mononoke
Grave of the Fireflies
Porco Rosso
Nausicaa
Whisper of the Heart
Howl's Moving Castle
The Tale of Princess Kaguya
Pom Poko
The Wind Rises
Castle of Cagliostro (doesn't really count I know)
Ponyo
Arrietty
My Neighbours The Yamadas
When Marnie Was There
From Up On Poppy Hill
The Cat Returns
Ocean Waves
Tales From Earthsea

Everything down to Arrietty very good to amazing. Only the last two weren't especially enjoyable.

it's after the end of the world (Matt #2), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:47 (four years ago) link

> Also, does Grave of the Fireflies not qualify for some reason?

it wasn't on the list of things available on Netflix, the one i saw anyway.

koogs, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:57 (four years ago) link

I liked Tales from Earthsea just fine! I like the novels, it did it’s job.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 19:21 (four years ago) link

Tales From Earthsea is really not great. It's super slow moving and the characters spend ages just hanging out in a house doing not very much while doom is impending.

Good to see Kiki getting rated highly but Spirited Away is too low and Princess Mononoke I've always felt I can take or leave, so I'd swap those round

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 20:08 (four years ago) link

The documentaries on Miyazaki that I've seen are weirdly compelling, he's so relentlessly downbeat as a person, it makes me think that his achievements are somehow snatched from the jaws of failure in some act of artistic brinkmanship. I wonder if he was like that his whole life, the dynamic between him, Suzuki and Takahata (and indeed his own son) was interesting to witness.

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 20:18 (four years ago) link

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/ondemand/video/3004569/

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link

thanks!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 23:32 (four years ago) link

Watching Laputa on Netflix with English audio & subtitles and the subs are godawful. Totally basic compared to the audio, maybe because they assume a reading rate of about one word a second; but also often a much worse fit for what's on the screen.

Paperbag raita (ledge), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 21:11 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

everyone with a low opinion of ponyo is wrong and shd have themselves checked out

(currently watching totoro for the first time)

mark s, Thursday, 20 February 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link

totoro quite stressful in its later reaches :(

mark s, Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:16 (four years ago) link

have you read Ebert's review of Totoro?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:26 (four years ago) link

no i only just finished watching it

mark s, Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:27 (four years ago) link

ok now i have: he doesn't really explore the stressful section!

mark s, Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:34 (four years ago) link

Totoro is a perfect movie. Also, it is at least two movies - one for very little children and one for adults. I’m never sure how to read the last ten minutes.

rb (soda), Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:43 (four years ago) link

it’s one of the great movies about childhood feels and the panic of being very young and very lost is perfectly evoked

i never got picked up by catbus when i got separated from my parents as a kid tho :(

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:46 (four years ago) link

er I meant about HOW childhood feels but i guess it’s about childhood feels too

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:47 (four years ago) link

(Novelization implies that the mother has TB, just like Miyazaki’s mother. But I’m not sure it’s wise to read Miyazaki’s films autobiographically. Plus, there’s a poignancy to the theory that Totoro is a child’s companion through sorrow and the loss of a parent).

rb (soda), Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:49 (four years ago) link

As I've gotten older I've realized it's about parenthood as much as childhood.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:49 (four years ago) link

(also: in the end credit stills, it's implied that the girls gain a baby brother not too long after the film ends).

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:50 (four years ago) link

can’t be a parent without being a child first iirc!

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:50 (four years ago) link

re last ten mins: possibly adding to my stress was that i'd texted my sister to say i was watching it and ask her whose imaginary friend from our shared childhood was "teethus" (soft "th"), hers or mine, and said "mine! i used to wander by the river aged 4 'looking for teethus' "

-- and i remembered the river and the riverbank in question (in reverse order steep and slippy, deep and swift) and became alarmed on her small behalf for half a century ago :0

mark s, Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:52 (four years ago) link

totoro is grebt but i like ponyo more

mark s, Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:52 (four years ago) link

You should watch Kiki next.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:59 (four years ago) link

it's also on netflix so i will

(i think cagliostro is then the only one on the OP list that i haven't seen)

mark s, Thursday, 20 February 2020 23:01 (four years ago) link

There's a book that I read as a child called The Ship that Flew, by Hilda Lewis. At one point, the flying ship takes the children up to the window of their mother's hospital room so they can visit her. I've always figured Totoro was referring to that, but it didn't occur to me until just now to google it. Apparently The Ship That Flew is #42 on Miyazaki's list of 50 favorite children's books.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 20 February 2020 23:11 (four years ago) link

oh wow, definitely read that in 3rd grade, hadn't thought of it since but the name "hilda lewis" totally popped in my memory.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 21 February 2020 01:43 (four years ago) link

Am working my way through the Ghibli dump on netflix, Ocean Waves is so far the only one I would consign to the dustbin - haven't watched Earthsea yet though. Cagliostro is brilliant.

Paperbag raita (ledge), Friday, 21 February 2020 08:58 (four years ago) link

Massive Joe Hisaishi drop on Spotify today, tons of music.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 21 February 2020 16:27 (four years ago) link

the earthsea i found slow and odd, with a handful of terrific unnerving moments. i know the farthest shore pretty well so i found some of the departures or changes a bit confusing -- i know this type of criticism is rarely fair, let alone convincing if you haven't Read The Book™, but the grasping of the backstory of the setting (the various islets of the archipelago and their cultural-political ways) seems to rest on your porting in yr memory of the books as shorthand explainer, so

also sparrowhawk himself is very underrealised and not actually very absorbing as a character

mark s, Friday, 21 February 2020 16:34 (four years ago) link

iirc, earthsea is the only skip it in the ghibli canon

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 21 February 2020 16:35 (four years ago) link

now revise yr opinion on ponyo

mark s, Friday, 21 February 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link

i watched totoro last weekend and apart from the amazing catbus, i thought it was all a bit cutesy-poo

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Friday, 21 February 2020 17:00 (four years ago) link

spirited away is a masterpiece tho

the cat returns is slight but hella fun and underrated, (she wants to marry a cat!)
thats all the studio ghibli ive seen so far

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Friday, 21 February 2020 17:02 (four years ago) link

i don't think totoro is cutesy-poo! the situations -- realist and quasi-magical -- are often borderline terrifying, and the way the children are is i think very well drawn (the little one just makes me laugh the whole time, her volume control is so random)

(i like the point ebert makes also, that there's no cliched conflict or drama inserted: the darkness is right there but quite understated = ill mother, threat of kids slipping from lovely freedom to play into actually tumbling down a well and drowning or whatever (this is what i found so stressful abr the final ten mins, it made me think how lucky i am to still have a living sister given her unsupervised rural adventures aged 4 and up) (i just read books on my bed, i was only ever in mental peril)

mark s, Friday, 21 February 2020 17:30 (four years ago) link

now revise yr opinion on ponyo

dude you JUST saw totoro for the first time; i've got 25 years of watching ghibli under my belt so i am confident in my nerd fight standings here

Totoro mother is not "ill" btw, she's pregnant! It's shown in the credit sequence. Next time you rewatch it, think about it with that in mind and it becomes a story about how families adjust to change.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 21 February 2020 18:48 (four years ago) link

Totoro mother is not "ill" btw, she's pregnant!

I've noticed the baby who appears in some, not all, of the credit stills, but this is some epic wtf revisionism!

Paperbag raita (ledge), Friday, 21 February 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link

The mother is def not pregnant while hospitalized, both dubs gloss over it but she's recuperating due to a weak heart but keeps catching "kaze" (could be either flu/cold) so the doctor's keep stalling her release.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 21 February 2020 19:02 (four years ago) link

Thanks guys I thought I was going mad for a minute

babby bitter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 February 2020 19:03 (four years ago) link

it's probably best avoiding the dubs then if important bits of plot are being missed.

calzino, Friday, 21 February 2020 19:05 (four years ago) link


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