Impeach Trump Y/N

thank god for checks and balances eh lads

Jerry doesn't get a nickname, ouch

I’m pretty sure it’s the Trump Foundation doing the quadruple matching

tax churches
ban god
ban toupees

Lamestream media

damn, got 'em

Repubs are always so bad at portmanteaus, but you repeat them enough, it catches on with the ignoranti like terrible early 2000s nu-metal

If he wasn’t quadruple matching my donation maybe he’d be able to afford better writers.

A subtle escalation here:

If they had just read the TRANSCRIPT, they would’ve seen that I’ve been a PERFECT PRESIDENT.

well so that's that

also

Impeach The Motherfucker Again, Already

If he wasn’t quadruple matching my donation maybe he’d be able to afford better writers.

Morbs is available for punch-up on disparaging nicknames for Dems.

whatever nancy does is WRONG, right? but fuck it, bring new charges, bring noise, bring whatever, fight fight fight

dump Trump this fall and Pelosi next winter

wow, i can't keep believe bolton would be such a dick

Schiff on @MSNBC: I can tell you that after the Senate voted not to hear witnesses...we did approach John Bolton’s counsel, asked if Mr. Bolton would be willing to submit an affidavit under oath, describing what he observed in terms of the Prez’s Ukraine misconduct & he refused

— Alex Moe (@AlexNBCNews) February 6, 2020

It would appear that Bolton will only submit to a republican-run Senate or a republican-appointed SCOTUS, so he can rat out Trump, but keep his bona-fides with the party for possible future appointments to high office.

On reflection, this may have been a mistake

Existence? Humankind? Most likely

Impeach The Motherfucker Again, Already

How soon can they do this? On the emoluments, etc? What's going on with the case the NY State guys were pursuing?

On reflection, this may have been a mistake

On reflection not doing this would have been an even bigger mistake

all of the options were shitty, honestly. you can't just let a president do shit like this and shrug it off. otoh, I think we underestimate how truly low-info millions of people in this country are, and I do think the takeaway for lots of people, even ones who aren't glued to Fox, is that Trump didn't do anything wrong, simply because he was acquitted. I hope that doesn't extend all the way to actually blaming Democrats for overreaching by even subjecting him to impeachment, but that might be the case with some folks

Bringing a case you can't win I don't see who the beneficiaries of that are. Even the idea that it would somehow show up GOP as complicit in crime always seemed a huge reach. Impeaching him on the one hand while helping him w budgets etc sent mixed messages. It's never really been clear what the actual purpose of this charade was and what tangible end game was ever even on the cards

charade?

the alternative though is doing nothing, which would have been likely to depress the Democratic base, so I still think that's the even worse option.

Yes.

It played out more or less exactly as we thought it would and it *is* damaging. It saddles a R's with complicity, directly implicating some (e.g. Nunues); it jeaopardizes a handful of incumbencies; and the president has now been "impeached," forever.

What is the downside? Nobody believes it's a legit acquittal. In that regard it's probably better (only politically) that no witnesses were allowed.

sadly impeachment has had no effect on my typing

Isn't there an argument that its impeachment itself that depressing the democrat base (not sure how much to read into Iowa turnout tho tbf)

I don't think the alternative was doing nothing!

i can’t fucking stand this cosmic brain thinking about impeachment. we knew the senate would acquit him. it needed to happen regardless

Isn't there an argument that its impeachment itself that depressing the democrat base (not sure how much to read into Iowa turnout tho tbf)

this argument would strike me as bullshit. caucus turnout really doesn’t tell us about anything other than caucuses

What was the alternative, anvil?

mitt romney attempts the von stauffenberg manouvre

The only thing to be done with impeachment now is move on, imo. I kind of agree that the cosmic brain stuff becomes extremely futile and navel-gazey whichever take you have. I did find it depressing but it's done and the general hasn't even begun.

Cory Gardner and Mindy Moderate's Dem opponents now have more shit to run on in Colorado and Maine, respectively

How excited would people be to cast votes for a democratic party that, confronted with a lawless president, simply shrugged and said 'what can we even do?'

Isn't there an argument that its impeachment itself that depressing the democrat base (not sure how much to read into Iowa turnout tho tbf)

Who is making this argument?

What was the alternative, anvil?

― Frederik B,

Whatever would have been done if he hadn't committed any offences. A president can be an awful person, have terrible policies, not deliver on anything but not have done anything impeachable. If this were the case what would the Democrats do? Not just sit back!

Trump minus the impeachable stuff is still terrible! We wouldn't say "this guy sucks, but he didn't do anything impeachable so I guess we'll just do nothing"

If the Democrats really only have impeachment as a strategy, then they don't deserve to win

But... they've already done other stuff, so...

If the Democrats really only have impeachment as a strategy, then they don't deserve to win

Who is saying Democrats really only have impeachment as a strategy?

So you have no idea what they should have done? Do

Wow anvil that’s a lot of words for “I don’t know, stuff”

the other stuff can only remove him in November. If you want a short cut, then yes impeachment is your only bet

say what now?

So you have no idea what they should have done? Do

Focus on jobs, trade, healthcare, war, issues. The idea has to be to win an election

how many fucking bills are sitting on Mitch's desk right now?

Not one person with a functioning brain believed that impeachment was ever going to lead to Trump's removal.

But... They did that as well, anvil?

A president can be an awful person, have terrible policies, not deliver on anything but not have done anything impeachable.

And yet he did, whether McConnell's kangaroo court was ever going to acknowledge it or not. I'm really not sure where this line of argument is going, at all.

Another who's sick of these wannabe pundit political calculus "arguments"

But... They did that as well, anvil?

Right, and if it works he won't be president next year

What will be interesting to see is if his poll numbers go up now he's been acquitted. though its not easy with the time lag to accurately judge. As people don't change opinions overnight, its a gradual process as we know

Dems' biggest mistake in fall would be "Trump is awful" as entire message

didn't work last time

Sanders won't do that

This is a broader question, and one on the right wing brain worms thread, but yes "your guy is a bad guy" just doesn't work and never has