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(...) The tantrum accusation is completely off topic, out of my depth, mean-spirited and I’m sorry i said it. Good thing i’m never going to try writing about music i guess. (...)― i am a horse girl (map), Friday, February 7, 2020 10:41 PM
better than no apology
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 8 February 2020 23:56 (four years ago) link
incredible meme pic.twitter.com/aAryHZ9suQ— mindy🌷vote for TWP slate for DSLC! (@lil_yenta) February 8, 2020
― j., Sunday, 9 February 2020 02:39 (four years ago) link
I substantially differ from Sanders in many ways. Many ways. But I almost want him to win just to see Chris Matthews commit seppuku on live television.— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) February 8, 2020
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 February 2020 04:21 (four years ago) link
Is he even pretending to be Richard Nixon anymore or is he just posting at this point
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Sunday, 9 February 2020 04:22 (four years ago) link
it's an adaptation of Nixon
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 February 2020 04:24 (four years ago) link
Nixon as a left-liberal gen xer?
― frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 9 February 2020 04:58 (four years ago) link
havent seen a post in character from that account pretty much ever but i only see the ones morbs pastes in
― ciderpress, Sunday, 9 February 2020 05:00 (four years ago) link
I think Nixon wd've hated Matthews
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 February 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link
Kool Bro
I’m canvassing @BernieSanders tomorrow! This is it !! California is so important. This is way out of my comfort zone ! Please pitch in and help get the vote out for Bernie! pic.twitter.com/AVAnLKQIr8— Kim Gordon (@KimletGordon) February 8, 2020
Radical Adults Lick Grassroots Style
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 9 February 2020 16:08 (four years ago) link
'Cross the Bern
― majority whip, majority nae nae (m bison), Sunday, 9 February 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link
Socialist Youth
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Sunday, 9 February 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link
Thurston Moore is probably a Petehead.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Sunday, 9 February 2020 17:13 (four years ago) link
C’mon now.
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Sunday, 9 February 2020 17:26 (four years ago) link
https://www.joyfulnoiserecordings.com/collections/thurston-moore-bernie-sanders?fbclid=IwAR2x08O9xME4Eyrg1mwKp47Uby2JNeS82rO3laoKbA6jrGeATZjfz_IiWkM
― With considerable charm, you still have made a choice (Sund4r), Sunday, 9 February 2020 17:33 (four years ago) link
just jokez, that's not really a surprise
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Sunday, 9 February 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Sunday, 9 February 2020 17:13 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
doesn't thurston live in stoke newington and canvass for corbyn?
― plax (ico), Sunday, 9 February 2020 18:56 (four years ago) link
He likes in Stoke Newington, but I never heard he did a canvass.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 February 2020 20:38 (four years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/6jGwBr7DpZ— madeleine 🍞📈🐀 (@apostlebrawl) February 9, 2020
oof, big fuckin’ mood bernie
― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 9 February 2020 20:45 (four years ago) link
Curious thing about people who are so offended by vile loudmouthed and uncouth bernie supporters is they always seem to be doing pretty well for themselves.
― i am a horse girl (map), Saturday, February 8, 2020 1:44 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 10 February 2020 00:20 (four years ago) link
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― uncrut gems (crüt), Monday, 10 February 2020 03:39 (four years ago) link
bernard sandard
― majority whip, majority nae nae (m bison), Monday, 10 February 2020 03:41 (four years ago) link
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― uncrut gems (crüt), Monday, 10 February 2020 03:57 (four years ago) link
Senator @ninaturner just Berned down the MSNBC studio pic.twitter.com/bbkvkd2I46— Samuel D. Finkelstein II (@CANCEL_SAM) February 10, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 February 2020 15:50 (four years ago) link
msnbc anchor literally just told a black woman named Nina to go slow
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link
god damn!
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 10 February 2020 17:17 (four years ago) link
blessed #content
― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 February 2020 17:22 (four years ago) link
and more!
Wish grantedhttps://t.co/Ke41Pt9BxJ— Samuel D. Finkelstein II (@CANCEL_SAM) February 10, 2020
― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 February 2020 17:28 (four years ago) link
Serious Q: what do you guys go to when you either feel nagging doubt about Bernie in the general or need to convince someone that Bernie can win in the general? What are the best evidence-based arguments?
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:47 (four years ago) link
No one actually knows
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:49 (four years ago) link
- most donors / highest fundraising (excepting the self-funding billionaires)- high favorability ratings / low negatives (incl among other candidates' bases)- consistently climbing polling numbers, including nationally- undeniable sex appeal
but yeah we're all just guessing hopefully
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:50 (four years ago) link
There's this:
"Bernie Sanders leads Donald Trump in polls, even when you remind people he's a socialist" https://www.vox.com/2020/1/31/21113780/bernie-sanders-socialism-electability-primaries
― jaymc, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:51 (four years ago) link
It is easy to make arguments regarding the future. Fun, too. But arguments about something as volatile as the 2020 presidential election already is and will most likely continue to be are no better than wild guesses, whether they are evidence-based or just gut-feeling-based.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:54 (four years ago) link
Even better: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/7/21128979/bernie-sanders-won-democratic-debate
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:59 (four years ago) link
Thanks guys
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:02 (four years ago) link
the best evidence that someone can win election to an office is incumbency, or barring that, having won election to a lower office. an insistence on anything else is not asking for 'evidence', it's concealed or obscurantist politics
― j., Monday, 10 February 2020 20:04 (four years ago) link
Sanders polls well with the voters Dems lost last time. I think he'll win!!!
― Frederik B, Monday, 10 February 2020 20:05 (four years ago) link
America’s health care system is bizarrely terrible, providing less coverage at greater cost than what we see in comparable countries. This is not an adequate basis for actually enacting Medicare-for-all
It's not?
― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:05 (four years ago) link
I was rolling my eyes at a Hillary Clinton comment that Sanders is promising to "deliver the moon" on medicare for all when Biden's cancer initiative has been described as a "moonshot" and she's used her own efforts toward advancing Alzheimer's treatments. Curing diseases is somehow a worthy goal, but treating all the people we have with existing treatments is unfeasible? And is everyone going to have access to the treatments.. how, exactly, without dependable universal healthcare?
Could have sworn there was a well-regarded democrat that promised to deliver the actual moon as president. What's the public perception of that guy? Whatever happened to... I guess maybe I won't ask what happened to him
― mh, Monday, 10 February 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link
(That's a quote from the Yglesias article btw.)
xp
― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link
obviously the moon is a key player in healthcare
― | (Latham Green), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link
FWIW, this tool is also useful: https://www.270towin.com/ -- it starts at the "consensus" and the map already looks pretty strong for any Dem. I think Bernie is likely to win all of the "light blue" states. Out of the tossup states I think he's a very good candidate to win Wisconsin and high urban and youth turnout could win him PA where Hillary narrowly lost. I don't know if he can win Florida or NC but he won't need them if he wins Wisconsin and PA. No idea on Arizona.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link
please dont be mad not trollin' but I saw this and was alarmed
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― | (Latham Green), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:18 (four years ago) link
sand doesn't burn, don't see the need for concern
― ciderpress, Monday, 10 February 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link
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― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:22 (four years ago) link
sand doesn't burn, but in the desert the sand burns you!
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:56 (four years ago) link
Rename thread the audacity of hope
― plax (ico), Monday, 10 February 2020 21:04 (four years ago) link
Serious Q: what do you guys go to when you either feel nagging doubt about Bernie in the general or need to convince someone that Bernie can win in the general? What are the best evidence-based arguments?― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, February 10, 2020 2:47 PM (two hours ago)
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, February 10, 2020 2:47 PM (two hours ago)
so I try to avoid this thread both because I do not particularly like bernie sanders but here's my argument for why you shouldn't have so much nagging doubt about bernie in particular: all of the remaining candidates are weak and we will probably lose the election. if we win, it's going to be due to trump not due to a strong candidate on our side.
pretending like running someone like sanders isn't a shot in the dark is silly. there's not good historical precedent for a national candidate with his politics, the moderate dem voter base has to fully embrace him and we need turnout numbers that aren't well supported by iowa. but warren requires all of that too + she doesn't have the brooklyn suicide cult and she's a woman, so it's hard to argue that she's a safer choice even if I think she's more capable of having a successful presidency.
biden and buttigieg are just...bad candidates. bloomberg is a huge shot in the dark in another direction. maybe there will be some coming wave of buttigieg popularity, maybe warren will pick up steam among the dem base, but until one of these things happens it's hard to claim that there's a safe pick anywhere in the field right now.
― iatee, Monday, 10 February 2020 23:30 (four years ago) link
Harris should re-enter the race lol
― Οὖτις, Monday, 10 February 2020 23:32 (four years ago) link