Argo at least works as a decent nail-biting thriller. Politically it's a bit suss perhaps
The Artist was bad.
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:33 (four years ago) link
I'm tempted to vote The King's Speech just for giving Tom Hooper a launchpad for his future horrors
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:37 (four years ago) link
argo is indeed slightly suss in that it’s a total fabrication of what actually happened irl and includes a scene of nail-biting tension based on the terrifying concept of being white in a public space where everyone else is brown and *gasp* some of them are looking at you
― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:38 (four years ago) link
I'd watch another movie with Alan Arkin and John Goodman as coworkers.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:43 (four years ago) link
it’s a total fabrication of what actually happened irl
It stinks, but tot fabrication is the case w/ 5,000 "true" Hollywoodizations
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:43 (four years ago) link
I'm with Karl: Birdman is good
― mh, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
tempted to vote for the hurt locker for being a remarkable achievement in action-thriller filmmaking from a director working at the top of her game which nonetheless is complete imperialist propaganda bullshit, using its veneer of gritty authenticity to promote the baseless idea that iraqi insurgents are such godless savages that they turn dead kids into improvised explosive devicesplus it paved the way for katherine bigelow to co-author her next movie in partnership with the central intelligence agency
― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:46 (four years ago) link
Realizing I've only seen two of these (Departed and Moonlight), both good. I guess it would be Departed by default because of that goddamn rat. Don't worry, I'll refrain from voting.
― Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:47 (four years ago) link
― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:47 (four years ago) link
The Shape of Water is a weird one to throw in as an Oscars pick, and as far as late period Guillermo del Toro goes, I liked Crimson Peak better despite it dragging
― mh, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:47 (four years ago) link
tbh maybe we should vote for the movies we actually liked as enjoyable movies and Oscars best film picks should be exclusive categories
― mh, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:49 (four years ago) link
never really understood the visceral hate for Slumdog Millionaire. I mean, it's not great, but it's just Dickens-in-Mumbai what's the big deal.
other things on here are start-to-finish awful in both conception and execution (the Artist, Green Book)
Birdman is stupid and overwrought but Keaton is occasionally entertaining in it
― Οὖτις, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:57 (four years ago) link
eliminated early, they're too good:
The DepartedNo Country for Old MenThe Hurt LockerParasite
one of these:
The King's SpeechArgoGreen Book
not one of the rest, since i think they're either vv solid and well-done or at least trying something interesting.
i stick w/Argo as a contender since i think its stupidity coupled w/the in-film "fact" that Hollywood saved the hostages kind of puts it over the top. Affleck is a decent enough filmmaker to have previously made an above-average Heat knockoff and an extremely good Dennis Lehane adaptation, so idk what happened here. maybe he got lucky w/the source material in the other two. He did screw up some good source material w/Live By Night tho.
― omar little, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:58 (four years ago) link
maybe this should be a poll: when in your life did you realize that some movies are released and promoted in a way specifically to be Oscars bait?
I think I first took note as a late teen with The Cider House Rules
― mh, Monday, 10 February 2020 20:11 (four years ago) link
(American Beauty won that year and is arguably more Oscars-baity but it took me a few years to realize it)
― mh, Monday, 10 February 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link
From what I've read, The Artist is an underratedly terrible movie too
It's a stunning representation of silent films...if you know nothing about actual films made during the silent era.
Under no circumstances will I defend The King's Speech or Argo. I didn't see Green Book, because I trust those critics who were treating it as a throwback to Driving Miss Daisy.
― Life is a banquet and my invitation was lost in the mail (j.lu), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:21 (four years ago) link
replace 'stunning' with 'silly' or 'stultifying' and I heartily agree
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:24 (four years ago) link
Here's the real question: does anyone consider their worst post-Crash best picture winner to actually be worse than Crash?
― Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:25 (four years ago) link
i feel like green book might be worse but fuck if i'm actually gonna watch it to find out
― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:27 (four years ago) link
every time I've considered watching Crash I just watch the Cronenberg movie of the same name
― mh, Monday, 10 February 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link
I still haven't seen Crash (the Oscar winning one) nor am I ever likely to
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link
i haven't watched most of these because come on, tempted to throw a sardine to the fish-fucking movie but i shd probably vote King's Speech because not enough guillotines
― Todd Phillips, party auteur (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link
Has anyone here seen all of these?
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:30 (four years ago) link
i haven't seen green book but it's gotta be green book
― na (NA), Tuesday, February 11, 2020 6:07 AM (one hour ago)
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:32 (four years ago) link
King's Speech is decent bored Sunday evening TV fare. It should never be winning awards obviously but its ok
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:32 (four years ago) link
I've seen all of them bar Green Book
the best thing about the king's speech is that the location they used for the speech therapist's office turned out to have earlier been used as a backdrop in a bunch of gay porn
― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:33 (four years ago) link
I like Spotlight and Hurt Locker more than Parasite in retrospect.
King's Speech wins this, although I viscerally hated Birdman. But at least there was an idea there.
― otm into winter (rip van wanko), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:33 (four years ago) link
the king's speech is a great demonstration of how the formula of 'man overcomes odds to achieve his goal through dedicated montage training' has been honed to such a fine art that it can even be effectively applied to the story of an inbred oaf overcoming the odds to talk into a microphone in an empty room
― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:37 (four years ago) link
i do enjoy this high-school-essay-ass paragraph from the king's speech wiki
Principal photography took place in London and around Britain from November 2009 to January 2010. Hard light was used to give the story a greater resonance and wider than normal lenses were employed to recreate the Duke of York's feelings of constriction. A third technique Hooper employed was the off-centre framing of characters.
― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:39 (four years ago) link
I voted for King's Speech, not because it was the worst film necessarily but because it was the one that made me angriest when it won. I haven't seen Green Book though.
― justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:40 (four years ago) link
tempted to vote for the hurt locker for being a remarkable achievement in action-thriller filmmaking from a director working at the top of her game which nonetheless is complete imperialist propaganda bullshit, using its veneer of gritty authenticity to promote the baseless idea that iraqi insurgents are such godless savages that they turn dead kids into improvised explosive devices
This is so otm. I found The Hurt Locker so much more ethically repellent than most of the films on this list (though that's not saying a lot). Jeremy Renner is great though.
― tangenttangent, Monday, 10 February 2020 20:42 (four years ago) link
remember in Argo where they go "Argo fuck yourself!"?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:43 (four years ago) link
this is obviously Green Book, which I've never seen. King's Speech is at least entertaining, if not remotely close to being 'best'.
― akm, Monday, 10 February 2020 20:45 (four years ago) link
Bigelow is a deeply regressive filmmaker
xps
― Οὖτις, Monday, 10 February 2020 20:47 (four years ago) link
even her best movie (Near Dark) can be read as a fundamentally conservative family-values film
yeah i concede that this was good tbf
― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:48 (four years ago) link
Honestly Ive been tempted to watch Argo again and wonder if it might hold up as popcorn fare if I just pretend its a dumb fictional Tom Clancy thing
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:58 (four years ago) link
remember when TKS was supposed to augur a new decade of Eighties Prestige Pictures
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 February 2020 21:03 (four years ago) link
thank fuck we dodged that bullet
― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 February 2020 21:05 (four years ago) link
oops this was supposed to be a vote for worst :/
― Mordy, Monday, 10 February 2020 21:09 (four years ago) link
voted King's Speech because it was so mind numbingly boring. I mean I disliked Birdman for most of the same reasons as everyone else but I didn't walk out thinking, "I wasted 2 hours"
― frogbs, Monday, 10 February 2020 21:09 (four years ago) link
Green Book
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 February 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link
Worst winner of the 21st century so far is A Beautiful Mind. Christ, I hated that film to its core
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Monday, 10 February 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link
Ahh, the early 2000s
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 February 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link
I've softened on Akiva Goldsman to the point where I can take his writing or directing if it's tempered by someone else, but A Beautiful Mind's pairing of his writing and Ron Howard's direction brought out the worst in both
― mh, Monday, 10 February 2020 21:50 (four years ago) link
I'd forgotten I'd seen Argo, why did that win? Such a nothing film.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 10 February 2020 21:57 (four years ago) link
To compensate for Ben Affleck's absence from Best Director.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 February 2020 21:58 (four years ago) link
sometimes i remember "argo fuck yourself" and laugh to myself it's truly one of the great bits of dialogue
― omar little, Monday, 10 February 2020 22:04 (four years ago) link
Birdman Or is extremely silly and pretentious but I had fun watching it once. Completely ludicrous choice for Best Picture, but not offensive in and of itself.
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Monday, 10 February 2020 22:09 (four years ago) link
Green Book is the only one I haven't seen, because it is the worst. I enjoyed all the others, to a greater or lesser extent. Slumdog Millionaire perhaps least.
― Alba, Sunday, 23 February 2020 01:28 (four years ago) link
From best to worst...
No Country for Old MenParasiteMoonlightThe DepartedThe Hurt Locker12 Years a SlaveSpotlightSlumdog MillionaireGreen BookBirdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance)The Shape of WaterArgoThe ArtistThe King's Speech
― 🚶♂️💨 (Eric H.), Sunday, 23 February 2020 01:39 (four years ago) link
that's close to how I would place them
― Dan S, Sunday, 23 February 2020 01:50 (four years ago) link
I had no idea Birdman won best pic. I enjoyed it as a weird little comedy. Words can’t express how much I hated The Shape of Water; it cemented my opinion that GDT is the worst critically lauded director working today. Although it did open my eyes to the idea that apparently a lot of women secretly want to shag a fish-man.
― Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 23 February 2020 04:59 (four years ago) link
Words can’t express how much I hated The Shape of Water
Ditto. Of the eight films I've seen in this poll, this is the only one I outright hated.
― mike t-diva, Sunday, 23 February 2020 17:05 (four years ago) link
apparently a lot of women secretly want to shag a fish-man
I suspect the big attraction for women was that he was mute.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 23 February 2020 18:00 (four years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Monday, 24 February 2020 00:01 (four years ago) link
I'm surprised at the numbers for NCfOM and Departed.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 24 February 2020 00:06 (four years ago) link
would like to hear the thinking of four voters
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Monday, 24 February 2020 00:07 (four years ago) link
I think a few people admitted to having had misread the poll as best, not worst
at least I hope so
― mh, Monday, 24 February 2020 00:18 (four years ago) link
In my movie theater career career NCfOM generated some of the funniest audience feedback from dumb people going to see it just bc it won best picture, including my favorite (mightve told this story before): the lady who walked up to the counter afterwards and goes “So I don’t get it... it was all just a DREAM?”
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 24 February 2020 00:26 (four years ago) link
Jones used to read Word Up! magazine
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 February 2020 00:33 (four years ago) link
some day I'm going to show someone the director's cut of The Counselor and tell them it was No Country for Old Men
― mh, Monday, 24 February 2020 00:42 (four years ago) link
lol wait there’s a director’s cut of the counselor?
― El Tomboto, Monday, 24 February 2020 00:43 (four years ago) link
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Sunday, February 23, 2020 6:26 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol this was p close to my experience. at the end, some lady yelled out "that's IT?"
― majority whip, majority nae nae (m bison), Monday, 24 February 2020 00:50 (four years ago) link
xp yes, and although I forget the differences, it is definitely better
― mh, Monday, 24 February 2020 00:51 (four years ago) link
..and apparently 20 minutes longer
― mh, Monday, 24 February 2020 00:57 (four years ago) link
The Blu-Ray of The Counselor comes with both cuts and yes, Scott's version is better than the version I saw in a theater. (It's a good movie; I like it. You have to meet it where it is, though - it concedes nothing, in any cut.)
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 24 February 2020 01:42 (four years ago) link
No Country for Old Men 4The Artist 3
In what world?
― 🚶♂️💨 (Eric H.), Monday, 24 February 2020 01:47 (four years ago) link