Worst Post-Crash Best Picture Winner

eliminated early, they're too good:

The Departed
No Country for Old Men
The Hurt Locker
Parasite

one of these:

The King's Speech
Argo
Green Book

not one of the rest, since i think they're either vv solid and well-done or at least trying something interesting.

i stick w/Argo as a contender since i think its stupidity coupled w/the in-film "fact" that Hollywood saved the hostages kind of puts it over the top. Affleck is a decent enough filmmaker to have previously made an above-average Heat knockoff and an extremely good Dennis Lehane adaptation, so idk what happened here. maybe he got lucky w/the source material in the other two. He did screw up some good source material w/Live By Night tho.

maybe this should be a poll: when in your life did you realize that some movies are released and promoted in a way specifically to be Oscars bait?

I think I first took note as a late teen with The Cider House Rules

(American Beauty won that year and is arguably more Oscars-baity but it took me a few years to realize it)

From what I've read, The Artist is an underratedly terrible movie too

It's a stunning representation of silent films...if you know nothing about actual films made during the silent era.

Under no circumstances will I defend The King's Speech or Argo. I didn't see Green Book, because I trust those critics who were treating it as a throwback to Driving Miss Daisy.

replace 'stunning' with 'silly' or 'stultifying' and I heartily agree

Here's the real question: does anyone consider their worst post-Crash best picture winner to actually be worse than Crash?

i feel like green book might be worse but fuck if i'm actually gonna watch it to find out

every time I've considered watching Crash I just watch the Cronenberg movie of the same name

I still haven't seen Crash (the Oscar winning one) nor am I ever likely to

i haven't watched most of these because come on, tempted to throw a sardine to the fish-fucking movie but i shd probably vote King's Speech because not enough guillotines

Has anyone here seen all of these?

i haven't seen green book but it's gotta be green book

― na (NA), Tuesday, February 11, 2020 6:07 AM (one hour ago)

King's Speech is decent bored Sunday evening TV fare. It should never be winning awards obviously but its ok

I've seen all of them bar Green Book

the best thing about the king's speech is that the location they used for the speech therapist's office turned out to have earlier been used as a backdrop in a bunch of gay porn

I like Spotlight and Hurt Locker more than Parasite in retrospect.

King's Speech wins this, although I viscerally hated Birdman. But at least there was an idea there.

the king's speech is a great demonstration of how the formula of 'man overcomes odds to achieve his goal through dedicated montage training' has been honed to such a fine art that it can even be effectively applied to the story of an inbred oaf overcoming the odds to talk into a microphone in an empty room

i do enjoy this high-school-essay-ass paragraph from the king's speech wiki

Principal photography took place in London and around Britain from November 2009 to January 2010. Hard light was used to give the story a greater resonance and wider than normal lenses were employed to recreate the Duke of York's feelings of constriction. A third technique Hooper employed was the off-centre framing of characters.

I voted for King's Speech, not because it was the worst film necessarily but because it was the one that made me angriest when it won. I haven't seen Green Book though.

tempted to vote for the hurt locker for being a remarkable achievement in action-thriller filmmaking from a director working at the top of her game which nonetheless is complete imperialist propaganda bullshit, using its veneer of gritty authenticity to promote the baseless idea that iraqi insurgents are such godless savages that they turn dead kids into improvised explosive devices

This is so otm. I found The Hurt Locker so much more ethically repellent than most of the films on this list (though that's not saying a lot). Jeremy Renner is great though.

remember in Argo where they go "Argo fuck yourself!"?

this is obviously Green Book, which I've never seen. King's Speech is at least entertaining, if not remotely close to being 'best'.

Bigelow is a deeply regressive filmmaker

xps

even her best movie (Near Dark) can be read as a fundamentally conservative family-values film

remember in Argo where they go "Argo fuck yourself!"?

yeah i concede that this was good tbf

Honestly Ive been tempted to watch Argo again and wonder if it might hold up as popcorn fare if I just pretend its a dumb fictional Tom Clancy thing

remember when TKS was supposed to augur a new decade of Eighties Prestige Pictures

thank fuck we dodged that bullet

oops this was supposed to be a vote for worst :/

voted King's Speech because it was so mind numbingly boring. I mean I disliked Birdman for most of the same reasons as everyone else but I didn't walk out thinking, "I wasted 2 hours"

Green Book

Worst winner of the 21st century so far is A Beautiful Mind. Christ, I hated that film to its core

Ahh, the early 2000s

I've softened on Akiva Goldsman to the point where I can take his writing or directing if it's tempered by someone else, but A Beautiful Mind's pairing of his writing and Ron Howard's direction brought out the worst in both

I'd forgotten I'd seen Argo, why did that win? Such a nothing film.

To compensate for Ben Affleck's absence from Best Director.

sometimes i remember "argo fuck yourself" and laugh to myself it's truly one of the great bits of dialogue

Birdman Or is extremely silly and pretentious but I had fun watching it once. Completely ludicrous choice for Best Picture, but not offensive in and of itself.

remember when TKS was supposed to augur a new decade of Eighties Prestige Pictures

instead it added 20 years to Peter Morgan's career

this list could be markedly worse, there was a perceived momentum towards Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri taking the prize a couple years ago.

Birdman easy, just for the “Hollywood sucking itself off (while sucking itself off”) factor

Green Book, followed by the King's Speech and Argo.

Haven't seen Parasite yet. All of the other ones are OK or better.

I like Birdman.

Of the nine I've seen, The Artist--sheer torture.

the king's speech is a great demonstration of how the formula of 'man overcomes odds to achieve his goal through dedicated montage training' has been honed to such a fine art that it can even be effectively applied to the story of an inbred oaf overcoming the odds to talk into a microphone in an empty room

― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), 10. februar 2020 21:37 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

This is otm, and is kinda the reason why I can't hate the film. It sounds like a parody from Bojack Horseman.

Birdman seems to be one of those films where if you take it seriously it's bad, if you don't it's good. Whether it's meant to be taken seriously or not I couldn't say, but I thought it was funny.

I kinda liked Birdman.. bit self indulgent, but surprised it's so bad and hated.

Birdman easy, just for the “Hollywood sucking itself off (while sucking itself off”) factor

Argo even more so.

ben selffsuck

while we're bashing ben, i'll say that the town was even worse -- it's bigelow's point break with the fun stuff taken out.

some day I'm going to show someone the director's cut of The Counselor and tell them it was No Country for Old Men

lol wait there’s a director’s cut of the counselor?

In my movie theater career career NCfOM generated some of the funniest audience feedback from dumb people going to see it just bc it won best picture, including my favorite (mightve told this story before): the lady who walked up to the counter afterwards and goes “So I don’t get it... it was all just a DREAM?”

― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Sunday, February 23, 2020 6:26 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol this was p close to my experience. at the end, some lady yelled out "that's IT?"

xp yes, and although I forget the differences, it is definitely better

..and apparently 20 minutes longer

The Blu-Ray of The Counselor comes with both cuts and yes, Scott's version is better than the version I saw in a theater. (It's a good movie; I like it. You have to meet it where it is, though - it concedes nothing, in any cut.)

No Country for Old Men 4
The Artist 3

In what world?