END TO END BERNERS: The Official Bernie Sanders 2020 Crew thread

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At my polling location the machine wouldn’t let you cast a vote until you had scrolled through all candidates.

honky wonk badonkadonk (crüt), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 20:22 (four years ago) link

ah well that's good

Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 20:23 (four years ago) link

levers or paper, please

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 20:23 (four years ago) link

A rando with the $5k filing fee to get his name on the ballot for funsies.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 20:24 (four years ago) link

also read somewhere (on ~intnert~) that that "sanders on the second page" thing is a product of randomization, hence these nobodies ending up higher on the list than not just sanders

gbx, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 20:49 (four years ago) link

Was not expecting to vote for Sanders but here we are

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 21:33 (four years ago) link

xp lol remember when that randomized name/screen cutoff thing was used to throw out the last Iowa poll?

mh, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 21:59 (four years ago) link

i have voted for bernie sander's in the state of massachusett's

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 22:25 (four years ago) link

sigh

Breaking news: young people still don't vote. In NBC News exit poll, 13 percent of voters were between 18-29

— Shannon Pettypiece (@spettypi) March 3, 2020

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:10 (four years ago) link

But, don't they want to stick it to The Man?

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:13 (four years ago) link

what would that % be if everyone eligible voted?

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:14 (four years ago) link

18 - 34 demographic is ~21% of population (US Census, 2010), so best guess for 18 - 29 is ca. 16%. If 13% of the overall election turnout of a is under 29, I’ll be a monkey’s uncle because it means young people are turning out in droves.

rb (soda), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:24 (four years ago) link

yeah thats my point - though this is a dem primary not the general so there should be a bit of a skew younger than the general population

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:26 (four years ago) link

iirc exit polls generally trend older?

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:28 (four years ago) link

well maybe that number ain't as bad as I thought but still, I think a lot about that article that argues that Bernie will need to up youth turnout by 30% to beat Trump in the general, and if they don't turn out on Super Tuesday...

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:30 (four years ago) link

Also young people vote later (or vote before Election Day).

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:31 (four years ago) link

youth turnout delivering a presidential victory has never happened and it will never happen

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:31 (four years ago) link

Your fault for paying attention to anything sanpaku posts.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:32 (four years ago) link

? I generally disregard sanpaku posts tbh

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:33 (four years ago) link

oh yeah i'm not worried at all about info from exit polls

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:35 (four years ago) link

That was an x-post to the 'youth turnout has to rise 30%' thing

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:36 (four years ago) link

i have never even seen an exit pollster let alone be polled myself

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:37 (four years ago) link

Minority turnout matters way more than youth and Latinx voters will outnumber black voters in 2020 IIRC - which if you want some upside is that we're down to the two contenders who actually have some appeal to POC.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:38 (four years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/9lafy0lunf

— tarriet hubgirl (@scatacomb) March 3, 2020

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:39 (four years ago) link

The inability of Sanders to move minority voting beyond a few points at most worries me a great deal. Most students at my university who identify as liberal t18-30 are Sanders fans and have said so, but I wonder if the aggregate around the country is enough. It infuriates me because the non-Sanders people I know looooove to make fun of how shallow his support is.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:44 (four years ago) link

A few points matters - the drop in support in 2016 vs 2012 was like 7% for black voters and less than that for Latinx voters.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:49 (four years ago) link

FWIW, 50% of the Latinx vote in Nevada went to Sanders. Only one data point, but tomorrow we'll know if there's a trend.

Hey have you heard about the Nevada Caucus results? Big landslide victory for sanders buoyed by... 50% of the Latinx vote. pic.twitter.com/HJZ7QWgnNu

— James 💐 (@plesiosocialism) February 27, 2020

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 01:58 (four years ago) link

Also FWIW, for the past six weeks we've been canvassing/phoning folks here in the forgotten parts of the San Gabriel & Pomona Valleys here in LA (Monrovia, Duarte, El Monte, Pomona, etc.) - large mix of middle/working-class Asians and Latinx and everyone we talked to was a Sanders supporter. Quite a few times we were told that we were the only campaign that had reached out to them.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 02:10 (four years ago) link

bernie_sanders

ciderpress, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 03:23 (four years ago) link

warren supporters locking their accounts like they saw a black guy across the street

— i did it all for tanuki (@Lowenaffchen) March 4, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 05:58 (four years ago) link

nb: no POC support Warren**

**as imagined by xyzzzz__

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 06:02 (four years ago) link

bummed

flopson, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 06:12 (four years ago) link

Just posting funnies!

There are lots of reasons why Sanders is behind now but, "people were too mean to a subset of college-educated progressives, the protagonists of the Democratic primary, on this website" isn't one of them and the narcissism of this entire genre of commentary remains stunning.

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) March 4, 2020

xp

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 06:13 (four years ago) link

Latino voters under 30 years old in California via @CNN:

Sanders 84% (!!)
Warren 6%
Biden 5%
Everyone else 4%

— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) March 4, 2020

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:29 (four years ago) link

Despite being frail and confused he won the trust of an oligarchic party nomenklatura in a decaying superpower by promising no structural reforms, no curbs on special interests or changes to an interventionist, hegemonic and overextended foreign policy. pic.twitter.com/qtqGbDZbym

— Ben Judah (@b_judah) March 4, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 16:11 (four years ago) link

NPR brought on actual spy Alan Gross, who was busted in a covert US intelligence mission to subvert Cuba, to smear Sanders as a Castro dupe. NPR described Gross as a “humanitarian aide worker”—his cover.
The oligarchy’s knives are out, they’re just getting started

— Mark Ames (@MarkAmesExiled) March 4, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 16:16 (four years ago) link

cool links here:

http://berniesanders.com/call
http://berniesanders.com/text

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link


@Lowenaffchen
warren supporters locking their accounts like they saw a black guy across the street

half the Warren supporters I know are POC but anyway, now it's Bernie or despair

sarahell, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link

on the plus side: if Warren's Bloomberg stomping really did have an effect, it's proof that debates matter, and Bernie will have a chance to demolish Biden if he's willing to finally get mean. no more old nice guy shit.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 16:46 (four years ago) link

no more old nice guy shit.

lmao

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link

because truly what alienates non-Sanders voters is that he's "too nice"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link

lemme know if you want pics of the inspiring exterior of Bernie's Oakland HQ -- it's right across the street from an office I'm working out of a few times a week atm

sarahell, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link

(it used to be a pretty decent pizza by the slice place that closed a year or so ago, that before I think was a Burger King)

sarahell, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link

because truly what alienates non-Sanders voters is that he's "too nice"

maybe not non-Sanders ppl, but this is a criticism I regularly hear from fans! he didn't say a single negative word about Warren for instance, even when she was ripping him him regularly.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 16:51 (four years ago) link

*him up

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 16:51 (four years ago) link

I actually admired him more for that tbh

sarahell, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 16:51 (four years ago) link

I don't think keeping clear of Warren hurt him (and her attacking him didn't help her at all), but he can't be anywhere near as hands-off with Joe.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link

considering what Joe does with his hands, no doubt!

sarahell, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link

he's nicer than Shakey

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 16:57 (four years ago) link

because truly what alienates non-Sanders voters is that he's "too nice"
maybe not non-Sanders ppl, but this is a criticism I regularly hear from fans! he didn't say a single negative word about Warren for instance, even when she was ripping him him regularly.

What is this line of logic? Sanders is a cranky cantankerous old coot - nobody BUT his supporters thinks he’s “nice.” But he gets away with it, cus shouty-crabapple is his brand.

Nobody thinks Warren is nice either, but she’s regularly called to task for it b/c woman.

rb (soda), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 16:59 (four years ago) link


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