picard is solving galactic politics by visiting everyone's house one by one
― mark s, Saturday, 7 March 2020 19:57 (four years ago) link
things data wanted: a) datadaughter feat.mucusb) be worst painter
― mark s, Saturday, 7 March 2020 20:08 (four years ago) link
https://66.media.tumblr.com/a40eae20c92e62c96f2417fcf1019cff/tumblr_nn5jvxmnFp1sxq4hio1_1280.jpg
― Ward Fowler, Saturday, 7 March 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link
the telltale Data head tilt
― mh, Saturday, 7 March 2020 20:15 (four years ago) link
he's in her dna apparently
― mark s, Saturday, 7 March 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link
Poor Marina Sirtis, after nearly 30 years she still can't get dialogue that isn't cringeworthy.
Picard's characterization is really weird! Maybe it's a function of being out of circulation for so long but in his TNG days he would never resort to mockery and sarcasm with someone who was suffering from severe self-doubt, not for cheap lolz. And of course his clapping after Raffi's performance was sooo corny, and not in a TNG way.
― Feminism-Appropriating Regressive Transphobe (Leee), Saturday, 7 March 2020 22:13 (four years ago) link
And yes I remember that Picard from season 1-2 was a dick but we all try to forget that.
Anyway: https://www.startrek.com/videos/watch-how-to-make-bunnicorn-pizza-from-star-trek-picard
― Feminism-Appropriating Regressive Transphobe (Leee), Saturday, 7 March 2020 22:27 (four years ago) link
Caught up with the last two episodes last night...I mean, I'm all about hanging out in rustic California locations because that's where most of the series have filmed on location anyway, but would chill over pizza anytime with that crew. There's definitely an odd choppiness in the editing, though; I almost wonder if they wouldn't've been better off just having the other stuff be at the start and end of the episode and otherwise just relaxed on Nepenthe. Actress who played the daughter (Kestra?) pretty solid, that's classic awkward/friendly stuff.
Building off of that Tolkien name tweet, BIG subplot all about subcreation, conlang etc. there with the dead son's interests.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:26 (four years ago) link
in that case i desire dragons with a profound desire
― mark s, Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:28 (four years ago) link
So you're the guy.
Also just stumbled on a reminder as to why Kestra is named Kestra -- that's the name of Troi's sister who drowned as a young girl, as retold in a season seven TNG episode.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link
my takeaway from the most recent ep is that much as JLP can be annoying, riker is still much more annoying
― mark s, Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:59 (four years ago) link
Nothing has changed then
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 March 2020 19:40 (four years ago) link
lol/yikes at the head tilt thing
― mookieproof, Sunday, 8 March 2020 22:33 (four years ago) link
I watched the first 4 episodes and I didn't like anything. I think I'm done.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 06:24 (four years ago) link
even in a cabin in the middle of the woods, they managed to squeeze in a "shields up! red alert!" scene for riker.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link
Yeah, I've been mostly happy with Picard in that it hasn't reverted to pandering to people nostalgic for TNG (I'm a fan of it too, but couldn't care less about this kind of fanservice), but they finally caved in and did a full episode of it. If it wasn't for Troi and Riker's kid, who was pretty awesome, and her interactions with Soji, this episode would've been completely pointless. Let's just hope this was the last bit of fanservice they had in store and now they can focus on the actual main plot of the series, which still seems pretty interesting, as slow-moving as it is.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 07:23 (four years ago) link
not too clear on how our heroes suddenly and magically realized the entire plot, but i guess some stuff happened
liked the octonary star system idea
― mookieproof, Friday, 13 March 2020 15:49 (four years ago) link
"unknown dark power shows up when you do <X>" is kind of like first contact, but is a lot more like the later Expanse books
― mh, Friday, 13 March 2020 16:42 (four years ago) link
a bit cixin liu too
― mookieproof, Friday, 13 March 2020 17:15 (four years ago) link
i'm only three episodes in and I find this kind of a warm and comfortable sweater of a show, but it's weird how much the interiors just look like CB2.
― akm, Friday, 13 March 2020 17:53 (four years ago) link
which I guess is maybe better than 'all the interiors look like a modern dentist office' of TNG
― akm, Friday, 13 March 2020 17:54 (four years ago) link
"what you are about to endure will drive some of you mad"
*viewers nod glumly*
― mark s, Friday, 13 March 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link
a cool thing is that the hologram can do every possible accent!
a less cool thing is that the actor playing the hologra
― mark s, Friday, 13 March 2020 22:26 (four years ago) link
i ken
― mookieproof, Friday, 13 March 2020 22:41 (four years ago) link
the accents.
― Fizzles, Friday, 13 March 2020 22:58 (four years ago) link
thats gotta be the worst attempt at a scottish accent I've heard in a long while, kind of fitting that it was from a Star Trek engineer
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 14 March 2020 08:22 (four years ago) link
That Irish accent is brutal as well, in case anyone was in any doubt.
As we were watching it I said "why are we being subjected to this?"
Seven doing Borgy things was cool, but.
― trishyb, Saturday, 14 March 2020 10:21 (four years ago) link
you can 3d print any food item with nutritious content in the universe but synthetic speech has taken a backwards step from 2020.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 14 March 2020 17:30 (four years ago) link
what if he *likes* comedy accents and did it on purpose
― mh, Saturday, 14 March 2020 17:31 (four years ago) link
tal shiar: "what you are about to endure will drive some of you mad"*projects fiery deaths of galaxies directly into yr cortical core*
hologram menu: "what you are about to endure will drive some of you mad"pretty bearded man in kilt and leprechaun hat with dangling corks: "fair dinkum hoots begorrah bah gum y'all"
― mark s, Saturday, 14 March 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link
He is pretty, though.
― trishyb, Saturday, 14 March 2020 19:29 (four years ago) link
I thought this was a return to form! The scene with Raffi and the holograms was charming, Picard gave a very TNG speech. Seven's appearance was still a waste of Jeri Ryan's talents, though. Also, the Scottish accent is definitely an homage to James Doohan.
― Feminism-Appropriating Regressive Transphobe (Leee), Saturday, 14 March 2020 22:28 (four years ago) link
hologram accents starting to irritate but god he is too pretty to stay mad at
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 15 March 2020 02:27 (four years ago) link
concerned about the implications of Borginating on and off like that but really loved 7 of 9 in this ep the kiwi romulan kid bugs me
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 15 March 2020 02:29 (four years ago) link
disappointing that it's not like rhode island/aberdeen/pittsburgh accents, but at least the cigar tells us what's important
― mookieproof, Sunday, 15 March 2020 04:18 (four years ago) link
the kiwi romulan kid bugs me
He's a bit Ornaldo Bloomps, but I like him. I want to know why you don't like him, but I also don't want to know in case your reasons also make me not like him.
― trishyb, Sunday, 15 March 2020 09:49 (four years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENTpoc9XYAAisJm.jpg https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3578762-rivertam2.jpg
― mark s, Sunday, 15 March 2020 10:22 (four years ago) link
river tam = combination dahj/soji and elnor
― mark s, Sunday, 15 March 2020 10:23 (four years ago) link
I was a bit confused about this too, but then I remembered that in the previous episode, when we saw the stuff Commodore Oh mind-melded into Dr. Jurati's brain, it included visions of the Zhat Vash members going crazy because of the Admonition. So apparently she transferred the whole story of the Zhat Vash into Jurati's brain, not just the ancient warning about synthetic life, and the heroes somehow got her to explain it despite the psychic block Oh placed in her mind. How they got past the block wasn't explained, though.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 15 March 2020 11:00 (four years ago) link
But yeah, agree that this was a good episode, a nicely paced "right before the storm" story that revealed the stakes and put all the pieces in motion for the two-parter finale.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 15 March 2020 11:03 (four years ago) link
The only thing I didn't like is the revelation that Captain Rios has a history with the androids and the Zhat Vash conspiracy too, even though he was supposedly just a random pilot Musiker happened to know. I get it that they wanted him to have a personal stake in the conflict too, but they could've come up with some other way of doing that, something that wasn't such ridiculous coincidence.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 15 March 2020 11:07 (four years ago) link
not too clear on how our heroes suddenly and magically realized the entire ploti missed any mention in previous eps of the 'conclave of eight' or any romulans drawing weird patterns, but i don't always pay close attention.
― Paperbag raita (ledge), Sunday, 15 March 2020 21:43 (four years ago) link
also synthetics involve past a certain point and then "someone bad shows up"? eh?
― Paperbag raita (ledge), Sunday, 15 March 2020 21:44 (four years ago) link
it's like discovering warp engine technology and the Vulcans showing up to say hi
only instead of saying hi, the mystery people destroy your civilizations
tbh they could take a cue from the Star Trek mirror universe and just activate a bunch of artificial lifeforms while having some super weapons parked in orbit
― mh, Sunday, 15 March 2020 23:58 (four years ago) link
I just thought it was a strange way of putting it. Someone shows up? What? Who? 'They evolve past a certain point and then consider humanity redundant' makes more sense.
― Paperbag raita (ledge), Monday, 16 March 2020 09:22 (four years ago) link
I've read some fan theories that this all ties to the Control plot of Discovery's season 2, and the prophecy seen there of Control destroying organic life in the entire galaxy is what this "someone bad" wants to avoid... I can't imagine they'd want to tie this series so closely to Discovery though, especially since (AFAIK) the plot was being written before Discovery's second season even came out. Apparently Michael Chabon wasn't even allowed to make overt references to DS9's Dominion War, so that it wouldn't confuse viewers not familiar with that series, even though that war is (according to Chabon) the biggest reason why the Federation has become more paranoid and isolationist.
― Tuomas, Monday, 16 March 2020 09:28 (four years ago) link
lol i've been ignoring all this backstory nonsense bcz i only very intermittently watched the various later iterations of SW anyway. if i have to look it up it didn't happen!!
― mark s, Monday, 16 March 2020 10:01 (four years ago) link
I don't think you're gonna find much backstory for this series in later iterations of Star Wars...
― Tuomas, Monday, 16 March 2020 11:27 (four years ago) link
In all seriousness though, you should watch Deep Space Nine. It's the best Trek series, it touches some of the same themes as this one, and nowadays it's all on Netflix.
― Tuomas, Monday, 16 March 2020 11:28 (four years ago) link
yes im probably not going to do that
― mark s, Monday, 16 March 2020 11:32 (four years ago) link