i have been home sick all week, dry cough, fever that broke on tueshave self quarantined & am working from home for rest of the weeki didnt go to the doc bc i could manage the symptoms on my own, it seemed stupid to leave & risk make other ppl sick, & there doesnt seem to be testing mechanism in place here anyway they named first coronavirus death in Sac County today, at a nursing home in elk grove :(
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:03 (four years ago) link
Stephen Miller's going to bring back the Chinese Exclusion Act
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:05 (four years ago) link
The crisis in front of us isn’t just one of practical inconveniences; it has a moral dimension we can no longer look away from. Yes, it’s really inconvenient. Yes, it’s not yet mandated by law — and if all goes well, we might improve things before it has to be. And yes, it may get a bit embarrassing and socially awkward to take such precautions if the people around you haven’t realized yet that it’s necessary.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/3/11/21171903/coronavirus-social-distancing-pandemic-covid19
― sleeve, Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:07 (four years ago) link
Oh shit, hope you feel better soon vg!
― ymo sumac (NickB), Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:07 (four years ago) link
ugh I'm sorry VG. glad the worst is over, sounds like.ENBB that is drastically irresponsible of them, yeah. rage on.
― lukas, Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:08 (four years ago) link
Q: My bathroom tap takes 90-120 seconds to get hot. should I be witing for it to get hot to wash my hands? Can't seem to find an answer elsewhere.
― Alain the Botton (jed_), Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:21 (four years ago) link
when i was reading about the hot water and dishwashing thing (because I usually/mostly washes dishes with cold water) I did see that temperature of water has nothing to do with hand washing. Like you would never be able to get it hot enough to make a difference. I would doublecheck though. I've been using cold water and just being thorough.
― Yerac, Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:24 (four years ago) link
idk i am oldschool & worked in fast food: wash my hands and wash + rinse my dishes in hottest water i can handle
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:26 (four years ago) link
yeah it's all about the soap, not water temperature. the grease/oil particles that have the virus on them bond to one end of the soap molecule aiui
― sleeve, Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:27 (four years ago) link
It’s like they’re waiting for it to get Italy level bad before doing so but isn’t the point to take these steps earlier so we don’t get to that point?!
I veer wildly between this and my "they might be right to wait" tetchiness on the UK Pols thread. Because this thing is going to be here for months (and a vaccine is 18 months away) so they figured that if they start too soon people will just go "fuck this" and start spreading it again at the worst possible time. I think the truth is somewhere between the two. And bosses who refuse WFH when it's an option can fuck off.
A friend has just texted me to say that a friend who is isolation texted another friend who is also in isolation and they decide to go hang out together. And then a third friend decided she "wasn't scared" and joined them, and now they're having a party. She's also having a houseparty for 80 people this weekend.
We're so not going to do well at this unless something gives these type of people a proper fright.
― stet, Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:28 (four years ago) link
I feel like the heat thing is right but not for the reason many think
http://www.getreadyforflu.org/handwashingFAQ.htm
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:28 (four years ago) link
I read recently water temp doesn’t matter but it just doesn’t *feel* as effective w cold
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:29 (four years ago) link
i am totally of the mind that everyone, if they have access, work from home. Not a single decent place would force you or make you feel bad about staying. But I also never waited for memos giving me approval for that.
xpost, yeah I would sanitize things properly in bars/restaurants but at home we usually just use water however it comes out of the tap for dishes (from the other thread, things just learned?).
Feel better!
― Yerac, Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:29 (four years ago) link
xp thanks, that makes sense, warm not hot:
Warm water also trumps cold water, which is less effective at removing oils and germs.
― sleeve, Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:31 (four years ago) link
mine gets hot too fast, I'm pulling them away from the heat before i've given them a proper soaping and thorough rinsing. I'm more disturbed by how the fuck i've still got dirt under some of my fingernails even though I have developed a ritualistic obsession with washing my fucking hands at least 27 times a day!
― calzino, Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:31 (four years ago) link
they make fingernail brushes if you are really worried.
― Yerac, Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:33 (four years ago) link
only $79.99 on Amazon!
― sleeve, Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:34 (four years ago) link
I'll take 3 then!
― calzino, Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:34 (four years ago) link
Virtual work is bliss btw
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:38 (four years ago) link
i don't think people should *panic *panic* but just be prepared and have a plan so you don't have to panic later. Or at least that's me. I may be missing a gene about panic.
― Yerac, Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:39 (four years ago) link
Thanks all, None the wiser but will save the gas and water by not waiting for 90 seconds. Maybe 45.
― Alain the Botton (jed_), Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:39 (four years ago) link
omg WFH is the dream. people who are given the responsibility of determining if your team should whf...what are you doing???? Are you people high?
― Yerac, Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:40 (four years ago) link
I've done it for eight years. And for some companies, they're already capable and probably should an implemented a virtual workforce years ago to save on real estate. Even call centers can work virtually.
Suddenly going to the doctor becomes easier and you can work in comfort.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:41 (four years ago) link
(because I usually/mostly washes dishes with cold water)
...although this is crazy. The heat dislodges the grease.
― Alain the Botton (jed_), Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:41 (four years ago) link
Rudy Gobert: a play in three acts pic.twitter.com/bKWLufKH8K— Mike Beauvais (@MikeBeauvais) March 12, 2020
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:41 (four years ago) link
i know i know. It was a whole thing on the other thread. TBF we don't cook meat or bake things often so it's never really an issue. xpost
― Yerac, Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:42 (four years ago) link
:)
― Alain the Botton (jed_), Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:42 (four years ago) link
i dunno, i may just be lucky. I go out in the winter with wet hair and sleep with wet hair too and I am 41 and have never been to the ER or had a serious illness or missed a day of school and missed like one day of work from being sick. maybe my insides are already dead.
― Yerac, Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:44 (four years ago) link
dead inside.
― Alain the Botton (jed_), Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:02 (four years ago) link
We worked from home on a trial today and though it has since upsides it's emphatically not the dream for me. My work is fiddly on a small laptop screen and I don't have a decent office chair or ergonomic set up, let alone a standing desk. And comms with people at work via Slack and Hangouts is not the same as a live office at all.
― Alba, Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:03 (four years ago) link
Maybe try a long-running Zoom that people can drop into and out of, with sidebar channels if required. It's definitely not the same, but it makes you feel like you are "somewhere"
― stet, Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:06 (four years ago) link
My largest client just went work from home today. Makes no difference to me as I’m the only one in Melbourne anyway. For me it least it levels the playing field as now everyone has to deal with slack and hangouts interactions only.
Also fuck trump for calling it a ‘foreign virus’
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:07 (four years ago) link
did he only call it a foreign virus? That's pretty subtle for him.
― Yerac, Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:11 (four years ago) link
Stephen Miller says only targeted xenophobia can stop this foreign virus. Europe, go die. UK, you cool, come on over and let's party.
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:14 (four years ago) link
Virus appears to be spread by payroll taxes.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:14 (four years ago) link
wait....tom hanks has coronavirus?
https://deadline.com/2020/03/tom-hanks-rita-wilson-test-positive-coronavirus-elvis-presley-movie-1202880431/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:18 (four years ago) link
sorry, sic
i was so excited i forgot to strip it out (which i normally do!)
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:19 (four years ago) link
...but tom hanks has coronavirus?
Not Tom Hanks
― rb (soda), Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:20 (four years ago) link
It's funny how much more seriously Americans took Coronavirus when they were using it as an excuse to rip on the Chinese via some really impressive concern trolling.
A slew of far right rags like the Moonies, Daily Caller, et al ran an article suggesting the Coronavirus came from bat soup, and while it was zoonotic and *possibly* did originate in the street food market, nobody knows definitively where it came from, it was just an unfounded rumor. so naturally readers were calling Chinese nationals backwards assholes who spread the virus due to their savagery.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:20 (four years ago) link
I’m sure there’s still plenty of anti-Chinese racism in the offing.
― rb (soda), Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:22 (four years ago) link
you guys might want to know that actually the coronavirus was a biological weapon invented in a collaboration between the chinese military and french intelligence, and it accidentally got out. any reporter who tries to write about this gets fired. according to my father in law.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:23 (four years ago) link
oh there is still totally anti anyone who looks east asian racism about it.
― Yerac, Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:23 (four years ago) link
I.... don't entirely disagree with the Trump travel ban?
Like it's not much more than a bandaid given his bungling in the states but.... probably not a good idea to fly to countries of higher infection if it's a round trip?
Idk...
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:25 (four years ago) link
The real problem is more likely the huge amount of untested CV circulating in the US already, but eh. And excluding the UK is weird. He knows we have an open border with the rest of Europe, right? Maybe they really, really believe in Brexit.
― stet, Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:27 (four years ago) link
I mean i think it will not accomplish much because we're already too late for containment.
The open border scenario came up at my rehearsal tonight
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:29 (four years ago) link
the US is, at this point, either a country of higher infection now or well on it way
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:32 (four years ago) link
Yea after i read further...
Trump made the decision in order to "keep new cases from entering our shores."
Nevermind. fuck him.
New cases are already happening you dipshit! What do you think COMMUNITY SPREAD is, something you put on bagels?
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:33 (four years ago) link
The UK exclusion was almost certainly a nod of solidarity directed at BoJo & Co., yes? It doesn't have anything to do with anything real or, y'know, potentially beneficial to the lives of others.
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:33 (four years ago) link