people I know went and saw his movies in theaters through Blue Jasmine. after that, I don't know anyone who saw a woody allen movie in a theater.
― akm, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 16:22 (four years ago) link
I don't even know what Brett Stephens article you're referring to.
Mia's alleged treatment of Moses has been publicized previously, if that's what it covers.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link
I mean, Woody has definitely been dropped, Amazon didn't release his films, he can't get funding to make new ones, actors have come out saying they won't work with him. Which is probably exactly why he has gone on the offensive. And I think it's scary to see that it kinda works on some people.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link
oh wait sorry I'm mixing up Moses with Thaddeus
argh don't even want to dig into this shitpile anymore...
xps
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 16:26 (four years ago) link
No, the Brett Stephens article was in the NYT relating to the book deal thing. Nobody should care about it, but it's a real wtf thing to see friends share a Bedbug-column and saying it's thoughtful. I don't think they know the bedbug.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 16:26 (four years ago) link
i think the soon-yi relationship was seriously unsettling. even though she was an "adult," there are boundaries you don't cross and i think he is a bad person for pursuing his girlfriend's teenage daughter. i don't care if, subsequently, they had the world's best marriage.
with the dylan accusation, i don't know what happened. it is an extremely serious crime. if he is guilty of it, which he might be, he shouldn't just be canceled, he should go to jail.
― treeship., Tuesday, 24 March 2020 16:28 (four years ago) link
We don't know what happened that evening, so he shouldn't go to jail for it, but the fact that his reaction, when Mia Farrow called him saying Dylan had told her something bad happened, was to begin custody proceedings, turning the whole sordid thing public in the first place, should have cost him his career immediately.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 16:36 (four years ago) link
There's been so much obfuscation by Woody, and his worked. It has absolutely worked.
didn't work that well. i think he is a creep and possibly a child molester.
― treeship., Tuesday, 24 March 2020 16:38 (four years ago) link
He had a career for decades afterwards, so I'll say it worked
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 16:40 (four years ago) link
His latest got a VOD release here. Not like usual, but still. Something changed a bit.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link
hypothetically, if woody wasn't guilty of the crime, what would the correct course of action been? in 1992?
― treeship., Tuesday, 24 March 2020 16:43 (four years ago) link
didn't work that well. i think he is a creep and possibly a child molester.― treeship., Tuesday, March 24, 2020 4:38 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― treeship., Tuesday, March 24, 2020 4:38 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
What are you actually arguing about Fred B, we are all on the same page for this. But the only thing you can do is not pay to watch his films, which he still seems to be making, and not buying his book, which seems to be available despite everything. That's it.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link
Sorry, unclear, wanted to do a +1 on treeship above
― treeship., 24. marts 2020 17:43 (thirty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Like, anything would have been better than what Woody did. From the custody ruling:
Mr Allen's response to Dylan's claims of sexual abuse was an attack on Ms Farrow, whose parenting ability and emotional stability he impugned without the support of any significant credible evidence. His trail strategy has been to separate his children from their brothers and sisters; to turn the children against their mother; to divide adopted children from biological children; to incite the family against their household help; and to set household employees against each other. His self-absorption, his lack of judgment and his commitment to the continuation of his divisive assault, thereby impeding the healing of the injuries that he has already caused, warrant a careful monitoring of his future contact with his children.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 17:25 (four years ago) link
fair enough. i mean, he was obviously willing to destroy that family by dating soon-yi
― treeship., Tuesday, 24 March 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link
obv fuck Woody, but I mean, sadly I don't know if Mia was "dropped" because of articles so much as she is a 75 year old woman in Hollywood
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 20:58 (four years ago) link
yeah I find people who express certainty about what happened in that family truly baffling
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, March 24, 2020 3:10 PM (six hours ago)
yeah, this is how i feel about it too
fwiw i rewatched crimes and misdemeanors a couple weeks ago and i can report that it is now genuinely weird to see woody and mia together onscreen
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link
Just finished Woody Allen's memoir, and for the most part enjoyed it. Questions?— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) June 6, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 June 2020 13:30 (four years ago) link
why does anyone like this child rapist
― 1312 (Left), Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:32 (four years ago) link
great take
― the grateful dead can dance (anagram), Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:32 (four years ago) link
Here you go:
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/may/29/do-i-really-care-woody-allen-comes-out-fighting
― pomenitul, Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:33 (four years ago) link
u sound like the Sleeper robot tailor a bit xxp
could read thread
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:34 (four years ago) link
i'm not reading that bs
honestly a disgusting thread anyone defending him is scum
― 1312 (Left), Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:35 (four years ago) link
you know it all ok millennial
howbout Chaplin?
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:36 (four years ago) link
It's worth reading if you want an answer to your question ('why does anyone like…').
― pomenitul, Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:37 (four years ago) link
smh snowflake millenials not thinking child rape is nbd
fuck chaplin too. and orwell, neruda, picasso, whoever else you want to catch me out with
― 1312 (Left), Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:38 (four years ago) link
it was a rhetorical question btw i know why ppl don't care
yeah I know, men suck. unique take there
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:40 (four years ago) link
at least Mia Farrow got good work out of it
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:41 (four years ago) link
scum
― 1312 (Left), Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:42 (four years ago) link
that's what some of her abused kids say, true
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:45 (four years ago) link
no need for the periodic fretting over why this board is so male dominated like people don't know
― 1312 (Left), Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:47 (four years ago) link
you seem to think this is hilarious, not surprisingly considering what i've seen of your posts
― 1312 (Left), Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:48 (four years ago) link
fuck it just ban me i hate this place
― 1312 (Left), Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:50 (four years ago) link
morbs what were you going for with that perrin tweet, can't read it as anything but trying to troll everyone itt
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:51 (four years ago) link
well trolling everyone except for yourself and shakey (not present)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:53 (four years ago) link
for the record i agree that the farrow family is pretty fucked up but i don't think it's cool to use that as a cudgel in an argument in favor of... woody allen
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:54 (four years ago) link
Caitlin Flanagan has an essay on the Allen book up on the Atlantic's site today. The book really is a salt lick for the country's most loathsome cultural critics, isn't it?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 7 June 2020 14:59 (four years ago) link
I will miss the great contributions of "Left"
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 June 2020 17:20 (four years ago) link
if you look at the DP followups, a memoir by Allen that dug into the work wd be of interest, but phaps this is not such a book. I have been seeing the guy's stuff since I was 5 or 6.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 June 2020 17:26 (four years ago) link
He is not a great filmmaker.
― Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 7 June 2020 22:01 (four years ago) link
would've made The Fury funnier
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 June 2020 22:14 (four years ago) link
Hate to be the one to bump this, as our beloved Morba was the last poster here and he had some spectacularly wrong takes fe: Allen. But I remembered this thread or another one where it was declared we’d never know the truth of everything. I think the documentary evidence is pretty fucking damning and we can all consider this closed now.
― akm, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 04:53 (three years ago) link
What does Moses say in the doco?
― grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 06:05 (three years ago) link
Theres nothing new in the documentary series afaict. Quite upsetting viewing of course.
― himpathy with the devil (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 06:38 (three years ago) link
I hope this is finally the end of him but will there be any reckoning at all for those who worked so hard for decades to prop him up? or will it just be quietly forgiven like that polanski petition (which I believe he signed) has been?
― no (Left), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 07:57 (three years ago) link
Theres nothing new in the documentary series afaict.
were those tapes of Dylan Farrow tapes available before? how anyone could hear those and not lock/beat that fucker up on the spot idk
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 14:05 (three years ago) link
i found the taped phone convo btwn he and mia re: soon-yi p damning, just his equivications in the face of mia flat out being like you had sex w my teenage daughter
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 14:17 (three years ago) link
I'm probably gonna get mauled for this, but ...Woody Allen's a total creep who should have kept his hands off Soon Yi, but I'm still not convinced he sexually abused Dylan. Not saying he didn't, but I just don't know. The timing of the accusation bothers me, and everything I've read about Mia Farrow points to a manipulative mother who often used psychological/physical abuse against her children to serve her own needs. I wish Moses had taken part in the series, because his long essay about his family life is pretty damning, especially when it comes to how Mia allegedly rehearsed/coached/brainwashed her kids. (He also talks about the attic and the train set, which he says wasn't even in that room.)
http://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/2018/05/a-son-speaks-out-by-moses-farrow.html
As for what Dylan said then and now, anyone familiar with some of the more notorious cases of child sex abuse accusations — the McMartin preschool case comes to mine — knows that children can be led to say or believe most anything with proper coaching. Sometimes it becomes part of their memory for the rest of their lives. What did Mia say to Dylan off camera? We'll never know. I'm not calling Dylan a liar; everything she said may be true. But that was one crazy, toxic household, and it's hard to know who to believe.
― TO BE A JAZZ SINGER YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SCAT (Jazzbo), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:24 (three years ago) link