I'm trying (not that hard) to even imagine what a convincing Fake Trump would have to say for me to think, wait a minute, this can't be real, can it?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:22 (four years ago) link
"I'm sorry"
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link
Seriously.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:27 (four years ago) link
"I was wrong"
― I met a strange baby, she made me nervous (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:30 (four years ago) link
"President Obama had the right idea."
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDfLfOXPc1c
― narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Sunday, 29 March 2020 17:10 (four years ago) link
If I were some deep-thinking futurist type out to make a buck I'd write a solemn book about how the invention of photography, sound recording, radio, motion pictures and television represented the First Mediated Reality Revolution (nb: the capital letters are a requirement in such books), where for the first time humans could experience reality remotely and extend their senses to any part of the world. I'd blather on a bit about the wonder of all this (nb: it really was wonderous to those who lived through it). The upshot of the book would be that You Can't Trust the Media or Even Trust Your Own Eyes and Ears Any More.
But, absent such a bloviating book, all I can say is that we are definitely entering a new stage in fakery that is going to have widespread political and psychological repercussions. Thank goodness for Real Reality (tm) or we'd all go mad.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 29 March 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link
imo the danger isn't so much that people will believe lies - you don't need deepfakes to disseminate lies - it's that they won't believe the truth
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 12:20 (four years ago) link
^^that's already happening
people like my mom already tell me that they don't believe anything anymore. she told me last night, literally, that "we only trust our gut now"
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link
granted, she and my dad are 2 of the dumbest people i have ever met, and i say that as an insult to myself, knowing that i inherited their bottomless stupidity
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:21 (four years ago) link
just remember the mantra: I'm dumb as hell, I accept it, and I will never learn
― mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:24 (four years ago) link
i don't think it's an intelligence issue. many forces in american society, over many decades, have taught people to feel this way--alone, suspicious of their neighbor, just atomized consumers.
― treeship., Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:30 (four years ago) link
trenchant
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link
― a struggle to make meat-snacking fit (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:38 (four years ago) link
it's true though. we can all yet "trump voters" but they didn't spring up out of the ground like that
― treeship., Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:39 (four years ago) link
or whatever
my new theory: andy borowitz is a deepfake
― mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:43 (four years ago) link
I feel like a neural net could do better than that.
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:47 (four years ago) link
we only trust our gut now
So, a tube of bacteria and poop? okay
― I met a strange baby, she made me nervous (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:52 (four years ago) link
That's a fairly reductive way to refer to our president, however accurate it may be.
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:53 (four years ago) link
karl fwiw u are the smartest dumb guy i know― a struggle to make meat-snacking fit (bizarro gazzara),
i would say thank you, but gotta keep eating this mud at the bottom of the ocean. *Scoooooooooooooooop, Scoooooooo*
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 21:06 (four years ago) link
via Hoos, "thanks I hate it"
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cyber-deepfake-activist-idUSKCN24G15E
― sleeve, Monday, 20 July 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link
This single image source deepfakery is getting terrifying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d6coarzPsQ
― Who will station the ox there? (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link
why would you share this
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link
Last year, deepfakery that climbed the uncanny valley required tons of source material, generally tens of thousands stills across multiple videos, that were matched to existing material of a real person, and then color matched for ambient light and fringed into the edges of the face. But when a single mug shot can be manipulated to come pretty close to convincing, its steps further from "movie actors and widely watched politicians can be manipulated in video", into "anyone who presents a single photo of themselves online or just to acquaintances, or from high quality surveilance can be manipulated in video". It just brings home awful potential that anyone whose ever had a mugshot, or posted pictures of themselves online, is providing a character actor that can be relatively easily manipulated, and this tech is going to progress and get better and we won't be able to trust anything again...
― Who will station the ox there? (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link
this tech is going to progress and get better and we won't be able to trust anything again...
it will progress and get better, and yet we will adapt and still be able to trust people. when people started sending handwritten letters to each other, there were probably concerns about forgeries and how to figure out who actually wrote the letter (partially solved by a liquid seal). i don't know what the equivalent is for deepfakes, but we will muddle on as always.
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link
pretty sure you could have made that point without actually linking that particular incredibly creepy and not funny video my man xp
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link
a terrifying future where we wont be able to trust the internet
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link
Yeah I’m unconvinced deepfakes are a substantial step worse than photoshop
― rob, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link
what does “block poster” do on zing?
― brimstead, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link
what you want it to
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link
It will just mark a resurrection of the "I can tell by the pixels" argument.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link
and they'll know by our pixelswe are fake
― popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 August 2020 03:53 (three years ago) link
i can tell by your pixels that you've prob'ly been faking forever
― neith moon (ledge), Thursday, 13 August 2020 06:48 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 21:17 (three years ago) link
I'm pretty stupid and for the first minute I thought Fred Sassy was just some old John Michael Higgins/Rip Taylor lookin rando
also, used to work with a lady who named her dog Sassy
also, my friend's mom named her shih tzus Chardonnay and Cherokee, but I always want to call Cherokee Cheyenne for some reason
also, fuck the noncentral geographic locations of state capitals Cheyenne, Sacramento, Carson City, and Tallahassee
― the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, 29 October 2020 02:38 (three years ago) link
also, vagina poop
― the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, 29 October 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link
Whut
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 October 2020 02:46 (three years ago) link
you gotta watch the embedded youtube video before you comment hombre! that's how these internet message boards work these days
― the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, 29 October 2020 02:54 (three years ago) link
I had a beagle named Sassy. She lived up to her name.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 29 October 2020 04:34 (three years ago) link
okay the kushner Serafinowicz and Trey Stone, eh? Surprised it hasn't blown up yet.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 29 October 2020 04:42 (three years ago) link
it'll never blow up cause 1) no cute cartoon characters 2) City Wok guy = CANCELLED
― the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 31 October 2020 05:27 (three years ago) link
i honestly wish that were so
― Nhex, Monday, 2 November 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link
2018: Deepfakes could seriously destabilise global politics in the coming years and we should be alert to the dangers of disinformation spreading at a faster rate than ever before. 2021: … pic.twitter.com/JLl8NgoQrA— Pete Fraser (@petefrasermusic) January 15, 2021
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:26 (three years ago) link
It's still pretty fakey. The mouth movements don't synch at all and are the vaguest kind of open-and-closings, the bodily motions aren't quite human, and the anatomy is weird. But if you're just giving it a barely-engaged glance, it's not glaringly bad. The song is entertaining, which helps.
― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:34 (three years ago) link
A friend of mine posted something the other day about the inevitable and rapidly approaching need for some sort of independent verification certification or the like for images and videos.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:36 (three years ago) link
surely some startup is getting funding for that as we speak, contracts on the way
aimless i gather you're unfamiliar with the SEA SHANTY MANIA sweeping the web
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:38 (three years ago) link
Crichton's Rising Sun predicted the widespread use of this technology, as did an episode of the television series version of Weird Science
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:40 (three years ago) link
Not to be confused with Misfits of Science.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:41 (three years ago) link
guy on the right has some powerful style
― brimstead, Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:42 (three years ago) link