Using the rona lockdown to finally work my way through Berlin Alexanderplatz. Had to check something on the Wiki and had a D'Oh moment when I read this titbit:
NME and The Wire journalist Chris Bohn wrote under the pseudonym "Biba Kopf" from 1984 onwards in tribute to its central character.
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 09:18 (four years ago) link
Lol of course and I've actually watched it and didn't make the connection.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 09:23 (four years ago) link
Oh you two.
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 09:24 (four years ago) link
MY dad was a senior systems analyst in the Apollo moonshot and taught at one of Kenya's early Universities alongside Ngugi Wa Thiongo both of which I only found out in the memorial tribute my brother posted to Facebook a couple of days ago.
Oh & that Kenya's under a 7.30 curfew since last friday.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 09:26 (four years ago) link
I think Bohn may have announced it at the time . Certainly was aware of it from around the time he started.Saw bits of the tv series at the time and probably should go back and watch it through myself. Think I intended to before so may already have it on a hardrive from a couple of years ago.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 09:28 (four years ago) link
I know nothing of Ligeti or Artikulation but I am entranced at the beauty of that graphic. I vaguely recall the Slowdive image.
OK I just listened to http://www.openculture.com/2018/01/watch-gyorgy-ligetis-electronic-masterpiece-artikulation-get-brought-to-life-by-rainer-wehingers-brilliant-visual-score.html
That's so interesting. Is the graphical score actually useful, or simply a visual impression of what is happening sonically? Also, segment 210-214 (at least) sounds just like R2D2 to me.
― blather rinse repeat 2020 (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 14:47 (four years ago) link
Ah, I just learnt that the graphical score was by a different person, Rainer Wehinger.
― blather rinse repeat 2020 (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 14:55 (four years ago) link
Ah! I remember I did wonder about the Biba Kopf name at the time. (Not read/seen any Berlin Alexanderplatz though.)
― anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 19:32 (four years ago) link
The main character in Fassbinder's "Fox and His Friends" - played by Fassbinder, of course - is called Franz Biberkopf too.
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 21:32 (four years ago) link
The Aretha Franklin recording of 'Let It Be' was released before the Beatles version.
The Judy Collins recording of 'Both Sides, Now' was released before the Joni Mitchell version.
I'm willing to bet there are more examples like this.
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 12:54 (four years ago) link
Pretty sure Judy Collins also recorded "Suzanne" before Leonard Cohen.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 13:40 (four years ago) link
She did "Dress Rehearsal Rag" about 5 years before Cohen did it.
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 13:44 (four years ago) link
Along quasi-similar lines: Davy Jones had charting solo singles before he joined the Monkees.
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 14:08 (four years ago) link
diana anaid is a palindrome
― karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 22:59 (four years ago) link
tbf she was Diana Ah Naid during the years she was actually mildly famous, and changed to the strict palindrome later
― Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 23:58 (four years ago) link
I just learned that Roy Orbison was a mere 52 when he died, not 72 or something like I had assumed for the last 3 decades.
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 2 April 2020 00:10 (four years ago) link
whoa really? Yeah I would have guess much older
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 2 April 2020 00:30 (four years ago) link
I thought he was like 70 in the Wilbury's
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 2 April 2020 00:31 (four years ago) link
I thought he was like 70 too, but damn, that would've set him born in 1918.
― pplains, Thursday, 2 April 2020 01:28 (four years ago) link
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Wednesday, April 1, 2020 12:54 PM (yesterday)
huh, i didn't know this either
on a related note, i had always assumed the stones' let it bleed was a sarcastic reference to let it be, but i can't find anything to back that up, and the stones album came out first -- so i'm guessing not?
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 2 April 2020 01:36 (four years ago) link
^ Me too, I was gonna mention that. But the "Let It Be" song was basically in the can about 12 months ahead of release, during which time hipsters like the Stones probably heard about it, maybe "Let It Bleed" it was a sneaky reference
― Josefa, Thursday, 2 April 2020 01:42 (four years ago) link
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 12:54 (yesterday) link
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 13:40 (yesterday) link
Let's make it a three-fer: Judy Collins' rendition of "Who Knows Where the Time Goes" was the first to be released, well before Sandy Denny's own take with Fairport Convention.
― Lee626, Thursday, 2 April 2020 01:44 (four years ago) link
Didn't a few Dylan songs from the Big Pink sessions get covered before he released (npi) them?
― nickn, Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link
^ yes, Brian Auger put out "This Wheel's on Fire" and "I Am a Lonesome Hobo" before Dylan/The Band. Manfred Mann released "Mighty Quinn (Quinne the Eskimo)" first. The Byrds released "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere" first. Probably other examples.
― Josefa, Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link
I'm surprised there's not a thread for this?
Marianne Faithful recorded As Tears Go By a couple years before the Stones...
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:51 (four years ago) link
Peggy Lee and Cher among others put out versions of Ray Davies' "I Go to Sleep" years before Davies' original demo version appeared on a Kinks reissue
― Josefa, Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link
This occasionally makes the rounds:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUVL3rrUMAAwZJG?format=jpg&name=medium
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link
dunno who these guys are but they have aged poorly
― silby, Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link
wear a dark suit and have frizzy dark hair and you will live to see the 2020s, Willburries.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:04 (four years ago) link
dark suit jacket. and jeans
(silby: those are the members of a 1980s rock "supergroup" made up of Robert Zimmerman, Jeff Lynne from Electric Light Orchestra, Tom Petty, Roy Orbison, and George Harrison, formerly of the Beatles)
― donald failson (sic), Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:28 (four years ago) link
Who's this Zimmerman character then?
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:30 (four years ago) link
Owns a deli, iirc.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link
Allan Clarke (of the Holies) released “Born to Run” before Bruce did. And it’s fucking great!
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:49 (four years ago) link
Mentioned on the Rogers thread, but Johnny Cash released "The Gambler" before Kenny Rogers did (and two others released it before either of them).
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 April 2020 19:24 (four years ago) link
xpost Holy shit.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 April 2020 19:25 (four years ago) link
Actually, just looked into it, and Clarke recorded it before Bruce's was released, but his version came out after Bruce's.
https://estreetshuffle.com/index.php/2018/04/30/cover-me-allan-clarke-born-to-run/
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 April 2020 19:27 (four years ago) link
― donald failson (sic), 2020年4月3日 星期五 上午 5:28 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
i love you sic
― karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 2 April 2020 19:38 (four years ago) link
I just looked up that Allan Clarke "Born to Run" so I could listen to it, and on the label the song is credited to "Springstein."
― Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Thursday, 2 April 2020 19:42 (four years ago) link
Re: “this wheel’s on fire” etc, I read (in mystery train? Wikipedia?) that after the basement tapes sessions, Dylan/the band did just send all the songs away to be recorded by others... or however that works... like the Lennon/McCartney songs recorded by others but not the Beatles
― brimstead, Thursday, 2 April 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
Think we need a separate thread for this topic, before deems or somebody shows up to moan about ILM encroachment.
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 April 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link
that "spring break" is just what Americans call the Easter holidays, just now.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 April 2020 19:59 (four years ago) link
except often enough they don't fall on Easter
― silby, Thursday, 2 April 2020 20:17 (four years ago) link
not structuring your school terms around a holiday which moves around a 5-week period from year to year is an advantage of keeping religion out of schools which I hadn't previously considered.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 April 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link
yeah what is "michaelmas" exactly
― silby, Thursday, 2 April 2020 20:20 (four years ago) link
some oxbridge prod thing
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 April 2020 20:26 (four years ago) link
a type of daisy, or, the best time to go on the dodgems and win a goldfish in a bag
― a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 2 April 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link
as a kid in IL, spring break was "easter break" and started Good Friday
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 2 April 2020 20:41 (four years ago) link
Re: Dylan covers
The Albums That Never Were blog has a recreation and write up on the Basement Tapes-era promo acetate that was responsible for all those early covers.
http://albumsthatneverwere.blogspot.com/2015/03/bob-dylan-songs-for-dwarf-music.html?m=1
― Hideous Lump, Friday, 3 April 2020 04:29 (four years ago) link
cool! file links are busted, but so it is with the passage of time.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 3 April 2020 13:32 (four years ago) link