US Politics, April 2020 -- Where's the Vax Returns?

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there is a mountain above the mountain

Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 April 2020 02:43 (four years ago) link

Then there is

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 April 2020 02:44 (four years ago) link

You must forgive Maggie. She was more than half in the bag when she wrote that.

Uh, you say she wasn't two sheets to the wind? Sober, or mostly?

WTF, Haberman, what hole have you been hiding in? Ain't no ifs ands or buts involved. This is going to roll through every city, town, village and hamlet in the US and the whole freaking world. Damn, girl, u out of your mind?

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 2 April 2020 02:48 (four years ago) link

You know, it occurs to me that I've never seen a picture of Haberman. Does she slather on the full-bore Barnum & Bailey grease paint or is she one of those more minimalist commedia dell'arte clowns?

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 April 2020 02:50 (four years ago) link

I'm not sure what was egregious about that tweet

Dan S, Thursday, 2 April 2020 02:55 (four years ago) link

she said "if" instead of "when"

narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 April 2020 02:59 (four years ago) link

ok

Dan S, Thursday, 2 April 2020 02:59 (four years ago) link

From harbl's linked story:

a representative for the WHCA who asked her to leave because she wasn’t in the rotation to cover that evening’s briefing. Rion refused, saying she was there “as a guest of Stephanie Grisham,” the White House press secretary, according to the Times.

things that make you go 'hmmmm'

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 2 April 2020 03:04 (four years ago) link

WITCH HUNT!!!!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 2 April 2020 03:07 (four years ago) link

I'm not sure what was egregious about that tweet

with how much focus?

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Thursday, 2 April 2020 04:26 (four years ago) link

ok not much, sorry

Dan S, Thursday, 2 April 2020 06:16 (four years ago) link

I caught this part of this at the briefing yesterday, but I was doing something else and missed the context. That's terrible (the death threats, I mean, not the security detail).

http://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/politics/anthony-fauci-security-detail/index.html

clemenza, Thursday, 2 April 2020 12:34 (four years ago) link

(Redundant "this"...every post I put up lately has a typo or three.)

clemenza, Thursday, 2 April 2020 12:35 (four years ago) link

she said "if" instead of "when"

― narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Wednesday, April 1, 2020 10:59 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

ok

― Dan S, Wednesday, April 1, 2020 10:59 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

also it's buying into the annoying narrative that this doesn't really matter if it's only new york and new jersey. we're not part of the real america.

treeship., Thursday, 2 April 2020 12:39 (four years ago) link

Good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 April 2020 12:39 (four years ago) link

she might not realize she's reproducing this bias, but that's the whole thing. it's why fox news country is less worried about the virus.

treeship., Thursday, 2 April 2020 12:40 (four years ago) link

The hell is this tweet supposed to mean?

enrollment periods seem like a bad idea propping up another bad idea lol https://t.co/0YPubOFL9f

— Elizabeth Bruenig (@ebruenig) March 31, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 April 2020 12:50 (four years ago) link

that there should just be open enrollment on the healthcare exchanges all the time. or better yet, a national health service providing equitable care for everyone.

treeship., Thursday, 2 April 2020 13:15 (four years ago) link

still a bad tweet. the point right now is that republicans won't even do the bare minimum of helping people in a crisis -- people they were elected to represent

treeship., Thursday, 2 April 2020 13:16 (four years ago) link

"Should be," yes. Never gonna happen.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 April 2020 13:28 (four years ago) link

if it's only new york and new jersey. we're not part of the real america.

I guess that takes care of that commie Springsteen

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 April 2020 13:45 (four years ago) link

I consider myself pretty far left and it’s discouraging to see so many of the thought leaders out here consistently fail to learn any lessons about coalition building.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 2 April 2020 13:49 (four years ago) link

My acquaintance with Breuning does not lead me to conclude she has thoughts.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 April 2020 14:11 (four years ago) link

*Bruenig

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 April 2020 14:12 (four years ago) link

absolutely galling that the only person with a mainstream “legacy” media platform who even comes close to unapologetically socialist is also a prolife tradcath

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 2 April 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link

about that polling bump in support for Trump

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-norc-poll-less-half-181322979.html

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 April 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link

just curious - what are the approval ratings for pandemic responses in other countries? trump's at 43% (specifically for his Covid19 response) in the poll Shakey just posted, which seems embarrassing. A public crisis is a big easy softball for a leader, due to the Rallying effect. all you have to do is not be a complete fucking moron, which Trump is failing to do. but what about other leaders?

Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 April 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link

speaking of not being a complete fucking moron

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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3h
Somebody please explain to Cryin’ Chuck Schumer that we do have a military man in charge of distributing goods, a very talented Admiral, in fact. New York has gotten far more than any other State, including hospitals & a hospital ship, but no matter what, always complaining.....
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
3h
...It wouldn’t matter if you got ten times what was needed, it would never be good enough. Unlike other states, New York unfortunately got off to a late start. You should have pushed harder. Stop complaining & find out where all of these supplies are going. Cuomo working hard!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:27 (four years ago) link

Johnson, Merkel, Conte all at around 70% approval

Number None, Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:43 (four years ago) link

Why is johnson getting any popularity out of the farcical response so far.
He wanted to sacrifice a lot of the public didn't he?
Is it the martyr bit?

Stevolende, Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:24 (four years ago) link

Is it fair to suspect our feckless U.S. government has absolutely no recovery plan for when this is all over, whenever that is? (Answer: yes.)

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:31 (four years ago) link

This is actually the thing driving me nuts. There's not even an attempt to try to do anything creative or original for this specific moment. Congress can't even consider anything that isn't already part of an existing longstanding agenda. https://t.co/xRTwKuwlxV

— 'Weird Alex' Pareene (@pareene) April 2, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:32 (four years ago) link

P@reene should know you can't do "much of anything" when the Senate and executive branch are controlled by the opposite party. Come the fuck on. And it's not like Pelosi hasn't already done what she can to piss off McConnell and Trump:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/04/02/pelosi-trump-coronavirus-oversight/

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link

I'm sure Pelosi wishes Trump would die of the virus from licking Jared Kushner's palms (Schumer may be disappointed, though).

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link

P@reene should know you can't do "much of anything" when the Senate and executive branch are controlled by the opposite party. Come the fuck on.

Paste quote here about a man's paycheck depending on his not knowing things...

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:54 (four years ago) link

just curious - what are the approval ratings for pandemic responses in other countries?

80% total positive, 9% total negative in NZ.

donald failson (sic), Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:32 (four years ago) link

Why is johnson getting any popularity out of the farcical response so far.
He wanted to sacrifice a lot of the public didn't he?
Is it the martyr bit?

― Stevolende, Thursday, April 2, 2020 12

this is what i mean by the degree to which trump is fucking up, to get a 43% rating on a massive public health crisis, this early on. even if you're a buffoon like Johnson, you get the rally bump. you have to be catastrophically antagonistic to doing the right thing, like trump, to do this poorly.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link

xp

NZ is this kind of magical place in my mind (not making a LOTR reference), where mass shootings happen and then steps are immediately taken to try to prevent them from happening again.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:38 (four years ago) link

It wouldn’t matter if you got ten times what was needed, it would never be good enough.

spoken like a guy who's undergone multiple divorces

frogbs, Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:39 (four years ago) link

that there should just be open enrollment on the healthcare exchanges all the time. or better yet, a national health service providing equitable care for everyone.

1st part isn't feasible, 2nd part is

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:43 (four years ago) link

NZ is this kind of magical place in my mind ... steps are immediately taken to try to prevent them from happening again.

On 14th March they established 14-day quarantine for entry, and barred cruise ships from docking for nine weeks; on the 19th they closed borders to non-citizens and residents altogether. On the 22nd they launched a $56 million fund for health funding & business support for Māori. They also announced four levels of lockdown/restriction/alert in advance, so people would be familiar with the changes necessary before they were in effect, and gave a 48-hour warning for shelter in place so people could make accomodations for where they would be staying. On the 24th, they suspended Parliament after passing a six-month eviction ban and rent freeze.

donald failson (sic), Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:52 (four years ago) link

a week or two ago the story was that Pelosi pushed against the GOP to renovate their original awful relief bill

now we're back to the 2011-16 baseline of "can't do much of anything"

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 April 2020 19:08 (four years ago) link

President Trump’s campaign has asked his former attorney general, Jeff Sessions, to stop “misleadingly” promoting his connections to the president as he seeks to win back his old Senate seat in a race in which Trump has endorsed another Alabama Republican.

A letter sent this week to Sessions — whom Trump publicly humiliated in various ways even before his departure from the Justice Department — cites a Sessions fundraising solicitation in which Trump is mentioned 22 times.

“The letter even makes the delusional assertion that you are President ‘Trump’s #1 Supporter,’” wrote Michael S. Glassner, the chief operating officer of the Trump campaign. “We only assume your campaign is doing this to confuse President Trump’s loyal supporters in Alabama into believing the President supports your candidacy in the upcoming primary runoff election. Nothing could be further from the truth.”

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 April 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link

It's a fate that basically everyone aligned with Trump can probably look forward to eventually, and I couldn't love it any more.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 April 2020 19:10 (four years ago) link

just show appreciation for his wise decisions, that's all you have to do

Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 April 2020 19:22 (four years ago) link

Johnson, Merkel, Conte all at around 70% approval

― Number None, Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:43 (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Why is johnson getting any popularity out of the farcical response so far.
He wanted to sacrifice a lot of the public didn't he?
Is it the martyr bit?

― Stevolende, Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:24 (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think Johnson was at 90% a week ago so his approval is falling quickly. The media is now giving him a rough time over testing and we could hit 1000 deaths per day in the coming week.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Thursday, 2 April 2020 23:01 (four years ago) link

Jared Kushner says some governors don't know how many ventilators they have & coronavirus outbreak is revealing manager skills.

"What a lot of the voters are seeing now is that when you elect somebody...think about who will be a competent manager during the time of crisis."

— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) April 2, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 April 2020 23:40 (four years ago) link

not-so-subtle dig at his FiL?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 2 April 2020 23:42 (four years ago) link

I don't know what you could possibly mean.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 April 2020 23:43 (four years ago) link


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