US Politics, April 2020 -- Where's the Vax Returns?

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Seriously. Plus, Trump used his losses at the Taj Majal to avoid paying paying taxes for years. taxes are bonkers. If you’re rich you’re basically covered no matter what happens to you

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 April 2020 03:06 (four years ago) link

this is normal, this is fine

https://www.latimes.com/travel/story/2020-04-02/u-s-suspends-passport-services-except-for-emergencies

sleeve, Friday, 3 April 2020 03:22 (four years ago) link

So there's a lot of speculation here, but this thread is worth reading. Very ugly if true.

Reporting tonight it’s clear that there are huge, huge fortunes being made now on the COVID Crisis. We keep hearing that states and cities are having to bid against each other to purchase lifesaving goods. But who are the counter parties? Those folks have a product ...

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) April 3, 2020

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 3 April 2020 05:44 (four years ago) link

I saw a message being spread about a recall on a lot of Chinese masks so hoping that isn't a widespread thing.
Also hope it isn't just negative propaganda which is far from useful.

Stevolende, Friday, 3 April 2020 10:29 (four years ago) link

so apparently Shithead is finally using the Defense Production Act

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 April 2020 11:35 (four years ago) link

Arguments like this miss the point. Asian Americans proving their "Americanness" isn't going to stop racism. Respectability politics isn't the solution. https://t.co/KPrnGzAEiW pic.twitter.com/9f3Kjz7UWm

— kat chow (@katchow) April 2, 2020

this is a remarkably bad take from Andrew Yang. like Candice Owens-level shit

frogbs, Friday, 3 April 2020 14:24 (four years ago) link

theres a v good reason why he picked up 4chan trolls

majority whip, majority nae nae (m bison), Friday, 3 April 2020 14:29 (four years ago) link

yikes. pretty creepy to read after viewing The Plot Against America ep 2 last night

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 April 2020 14:31 (four years ago) link

yeah that's weird. only racists blame asian or asian-american people for this crisis and you'll never prove anything to them.

treeship., Friday, 3 April 2020 14:41 (four years ago) link

Yang was shamefully model-minority-ing during his campaign, but that is an appalling step up

rob, Friday, 3 April 2020 14:43 (four years ago) link

i want to know more about these profiteers.

why is the US giving the airlifted supplies from foreign countries to private contractors and not directly to states?

treeship., Friday, 3 April 2020 14:45 (four years ago) link

"run government like a business"?

i suppose the alternative idea is that private companies really could be more adept at distributing things than the federal government (like fedex vs usps, or whatever)? i don't know.

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 April 2020 14:46 (four years ago) link

is this just a weird trump thing or is it what would be done? that's my question. i know that people here might not have the answer. then again, some ilxors know stuff.

treeship., Friday, 3 April 2020 14:47 (four years ago) link

My understanding is these are companies that have traditionally distributed this type of supply, but there's a lot of questions around how they are forcing the states to bid against each other, which runs up prices to ridiculous levels. At the very least, it is being coordinated badly, but there's some shady profiteering that appears to be happening too.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 3 April 2020 14:50 (four years ago) link

my chinese next door neighbors who run a laundromat have hung american flags out their windows. shades of 9/11.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 3 April 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link

State governments (the federal government too, actually) don’t have a bunch of logistics workers who hang around for years waiting for urgent DISTRIBUTE THE SUPPLIES contingencies. Hence the contractors.

El Tomboto, Friday, 3 April 2020 16:00 (four years ago) link

if they're really smart they'd hang a confederate flag xp

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 April 2020 16:03 (four years ago) link

The Trump administration just changed its language about the Strategic National Stockpile on an HHS website to jibe with Jared Kushner's claim that this isn't for the states.

(h/t @LEBassett)

Before vs. After: pic.twitter.com/yD4O2b1IEw

— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) April 3, 2020

mookieproof, Friday, 3 April 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link

lol Florida:

The staggering unemployment exploding on President Donald Trump’s watch would worry any incumbent running for reelection, but troubles in Florida are injecting an added dose of fear into a jittery GOP.

Already anxious about Trump’s chances in the nation’s biggest swing state, Republicans now are dealing with thousands of unemployed workers unable to navigate the Florida system to apply for help. And the blowback is directed straight at Trump’s top allies in the state, Gov. Ron DeSantis and Sen. Rick Scott.

Privately, Republicans admit that the $77.9 million system that is now failing Florida workers is doing exactly what Scott designed it to do — lower the state’s reported number of jobless claims after the great recession.

“It’s a sh-- sandwich, and it was designed that way by Scott,” said one DeSantis advisor. “It wasn’t about saving money. It was about making it harder for people to get benefits or keep benefits so that the unemployment numbers were low to give the governor something to brag about.”

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/04/03/its-a-sh-sandwich-republicans-rage-as-florida-becomes-a-nightmare-for-trump-1271172

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 April 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/O1wN66k.jpg

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 3 April 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link

Good thing Kushner has more spare time now that the whole Middle East thing got sorted out

ain't no sunshine (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 April 2020 18:15 (four years ago) link

Two Scoops negotiating w/Russia & Saudi to lower oil production because that's totally what we need right now.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 April 2020 19:13 (four years ago) link

Trump said Medicare for All apparently?

We don’t agree on much, but this isn’t the time for politics. We must come together to take bold action to prevent more people from getting sick & dying. Immediately expanding Medicare is the best way to do that. We're ready to work w/Trump & others to get it done. pic.twitter.com/kUqjw5IjKe

— Rep. Pramila Jayapal (@RepJayapal) April 3, 2020

silby, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:04 (four years ago) link

lol OUTFLANKED!!!

El Tomboto, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link

Trump did not say Medicare for All

Οὖτις, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:07 (four years ago) link

this is getting v tiresome, what universe do you guys live in

Οὖτις, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:07 (four years ago) link

President Donald Trump said he is considering using federal programs like Medicare and Medicaid to cover the rising ranks of the uninsured after his administration decided it would not reopen the Obamacare insurance markets to address the coronavirus crisis.

silby, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link

it's a good letter Brent

silby, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:11 (four years ago) link

I mean I know he can't read but you never know when you might bamboozle him

silby, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:11 (four years ago) link

even in the letter they note that he only referred to "expanding Medicare and Medicaid to include uninsured Americans, including those who have lost their employer-based coverage due to COVID-19."

This is not Medicare-for-All.

Οὖτις, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link

idk who Brent is

Οὖτις, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link

could be! Why not?

silby, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link

because Trump (and esp McConnell) will not hand the Dems a major legislative victory

Οὖτις, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:15 (four years ago) link

it's 2020 and we're still not ready to lie and distort and take things out of context to score rhetorical points as much as the other side is, smh

silby, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:15 (four years ago) link

idk also who is this karen i keep hearing about?

blather rinse repeat 2020 (Hunt3r), Friday, 3 April 2020 20:15 (four years ago) link

I could see some expansion getting through, one with a lot of caveats and poison-pills attached to it that limits the expansion well short of "All"

xps

Οὖτις, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link

I know Brent and Karen, but I have to admit I don't get who Rhonda is?

Frederik B, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:17 (four years ago) link

"celebrated Twitter exchange"

Οὖτις, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:24 (four years ago) link

i hope trump signs onto this medicare expansion

treeship., Friday, 3 April 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link

it was his idea!

silby, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link

to the extent he is capable of "having" "ideas"

silby, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link

Trump's Katrina will be a deadly pandemic. https://t.co/e4rMUQOAqs

— Steve Silberman (@stevesilberman) May 5, 2017

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link

who could have foreseen this?

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 3 April 2020 20:49 (four years ago) link

even in the letter they note that he only referred to "expanding Medicare and Medicaid to include uninsured Americans, including those who have lost their employer-based coverage due to COVID-19."

This is not Medicare-for-All.

It's what a lot of Americans who don't follow politics closely think Medicare-for-All is, though: a public option that works like Medicare and that's available to everyone alongside more expensive private competitors.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 3 April 2020 20:55 (four years ago) link

It's probably what Trump thinks Medicare-for-All is!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 3 April 2020 20:55 (four years ago) link

where does silby fall on that axis

Οὖτις, Friday, 3 April 2020 21:11 (four years ago) link

I don't get who Rhonda is?

Help me

ain't no sunshine (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 April 2020 21:32 (four years ago) link

gonna steal it any way they can

This is good one: Trump campaign wants to send no request absentee ballots only to voters 65+. https://t.co/tF4d6SZHCb

— Richard Yeselson (@yeselson) April 3, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 April 2020 21:40 (four years ago) link

Trump said he is considering... etc.

A few days ago he "considered" slapping a quarantine on NY, NJ and part of CT. He's just churning the news cycle again to keep himself in the center of it.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 3 April 2020 21:46 (four years ago) link


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