firm, but fair
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 9 April 2020 18:46 (four years ago) link
Hillary would’ve made a better president and seemed smart and alert and awake but ppl hated her guts and they don’t feel the same about Biden
this is my one hope for 2020, people were mobilized to vote against Hillary in ways they won't be for Biden. I had coworkers who hated her guts for no discernable reason. we rag on the GOP for the way they fired off bad-faith attacks on her for 20 years but it sure as hell paid off
I wouldn't bet a dollar on the outcome. I've generally thought GENERIC DEMOCRAT would win for the last couple of years and Trump will win people were just doomsayers, but so much of Trump's insanity seems to have been normalized and Biden is such a uniquely terrible candidate (we haven't even gotten to the BURISMA BURISMA BURISMA stage of things) that I wouldn't begin to guess how this will turn out.
well the fact that "the president doesn't have a functioning brain" is now normalized is probably a point in favor of Biden now, sadly. by and large this is just what we've always known, most voters don't care about racism, corruption, lying, dead people in foreign countries, etc. etc...but once they start losing their jobs and having people they know die as a direct result of the President's incompetence, things might change. murdering 1,500,000 brown people on false pretenses didn't hurt GWB. the financial crisis and Katrina did.
― frogbs, Thursday, 9 April 2020 18:47 (four years ago) link
I honestly don’t think Trump comes off as nearly as senile as Biden. We’re mostly judging him on content but he’s still a pretty confident speaker. Biden genuinely sounds like my 92-year old grandfather in the final year ‘decline phase.’
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 9 April 2020 18:52 (four years ago) link
is this also the thread for "we're gonna have a Republican judiciary + sham elections for the rest of our lives"
― lukas, Thursday, 9 April 2020 19:42 (four years ago) link
however we want to figuratively refer to hillary clinton
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone)
if you're asking my preference, i would prefer we not refer to hillary clinton, figuratively or otherwise. that's probably not a reasonable request, but it just seems like picking at an old wound that will fucking never heal over.
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 9 April 2020 19:47 (four years ago) link
― lukas
i feel like we should have a separate thread for long-term doom-mongering and we could try to keep this to 2020-only doom-mongering? but it's not my thread.
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 9 April 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link
HRC is a white supremacist mass murderer who is partly responsible for this shitshow why should she get a pass
― aaaaeeeeeeoooooooowwww (Left), Thursday, 9 April 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link
So good to finally have someone on this board who can weigh in from The Left.
― ☮️ (peace, man), Thursday, 9 April 2020 20:25 (four years ago) link
shit really? Perhaps there should be some congressional hearings.
― cuomo money, cuomo problems (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 April 2020 20:27 (four years ago) link
I honestly don’t think Trump comes off as nearly as senile as Biden. We’re mostly judging him on content but he’s still a pretty confident speaker. Biden genuinely sounds like my 92-year old grandfather in the final year ‘decline phase.’― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, April 9, 2020 2:52 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, April 9, 2020 2:52 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
i agree. i think it's hard to imagine Biden beating anyone but 799 people died in my state today of the virus trump was denying was a problem about a month ago so WHO KNOWS
― treeship., Thursday, 9 April 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link
Dumb asshole is gonna win, ffs
― silby, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 01:13 (four years ago) link
This site has enough rolling 77 threads for griping.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 01:16 (four years ago) link
The thread title says what it’s for, it’s for this, so it doesn’t go in other threads
― silby, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 01:22 (four years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWFrynfU4AASTY5?format=jpg&name=medium
Low numbers for Biden in both Trust and Don't Trust, so he does have room to improve if he's able to become more visible
― anvil, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 02:45 (four years ago) link
― anvil, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 02:46 (four years ago) link
its tough when every major news network gives a free 2 hour commercial to your opponent every single night
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 02:54 (four years ago) link
in the main, no one's listening to whatever Biden says about covid-19, because he's not in a position to affect anything about it. people know that he's mostly irrelevant on that subject. it doesn't help that what he does manage to say is neutral boilerplate, stuff like 'I'd take effective action' that means nothing at all. I'd bet most of those trust vs. don't trust responders wouldn't be able to cite anything he said; it's just the usual tribal identification.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 03:48 (four years ago) link
We should get Joe some of the shit from Flowers for Algernon
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 04:27 (four years ago) link
he does have room to improve if he's able to become more visible
Also room to get worse. Seriously, I would be all over a GoFundMe to (1) buy that man a teleprompter, (2) pay a trusted advisor to keep him on script, and (3) get some of them Deepfake tech whizzes to mock up some coherent speeches using his generically likable face.
― molon labe, kemo sabe (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 13:47 (four years ago) link
he's gonna win every goddamn state https://t.co/RggsWIJkDH— Andros of the Embers (@allahliker) April 21, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 13:51 (four years ago) link
of course he is
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 13:58 (four years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/cU6gIdMgGi— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 20, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 14:01 (four years ago) link
i forgot how wildly popular the initial travel ban and the wall and border separations were, everyone loved all that shit, this guy's totally right.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 14:02 (four years ago) link
did we really need a new thread just for disgruntled sanders people to talk up trump?
― iatee, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 14:03 (four years ago) link
I'd really like to see Biden put out an ad collecting all the times Trump made it sound like he wanted to fuck his daughter.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 14:06 (four years ago) link
Trump is going to be president until we're all dead.
― Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 14:07 (four years ago) link
He'll never do it xp
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 14:07 (four years ago) link
ukilxors can't even be trusted to predict the results of uk elections
― Mordy, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 14:33 (four years ago) link
― Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.)
only if he literally kills me
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 14:35 (four years ago) link
(xp) Not sure many, if any, predicted Corbyn would win tbf.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 14:39 (four years ago) link
i remember the optimism during his campaign certainly from this point (8 months out from the election)
― Mordy, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 14:42 (four years ago) link
How Optimistic Are You?
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 14:43 (four years ago) link
The optimism was always qualified. Not that it matters as to whether I'll copy and paste some fun tweets xp
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 14:48 (four years ago) link
uk ilxors weren't stupid for hoping and people who are despairing right now aren't stupid for despairing
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 14:54 (four years ago) link
you can come up with another word for 'believes that election results aren't likely to be correlated w/ polling data'.
― iatee, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link
young voters are undercounted because they don’t use landlines, i totally read that
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 15:44 (four years ago) link
every time Trump says "Sleepy Joe" there are a bunch of disgruntled Bernie supporters tweeting "holy FUCK he's gonna get 500 EVs" and it's super annoying
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 16:07 (four years ago) link
he is an unstoppable force, though also extremely stoppable by the guy who polled worse against him than joe biden
― iatee, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 16:23 (four years ago) link
I try to convince myself that "trump is gonna win" as an emotional shield in case it happens, plus the idea of investing in "biden is gonna win" is fucking sad (admittedly "trump is gonna one-term" appeals).
OTOH, what I sometimes think about is a friend's dad who voted for trump. He's a middle-class white guy who is literally in the infrastructure business and actually bought the idea that trump being pres would help him. But he's also married to a South American immigrant, and while I don't know him personally I am reasonably sure there's no chance he'll vote for trump again. I imagine there's at least a few other people like that, and I can't see anyone switching to trump at this point—even as hyperbole, "he's gonna win every goddamn state" makes you look like a dumbass. Going full throttle white nationalist isn't going to help him win, the thing to be worried about is disenfranchisement not trump's masterly "political campaigning skills."
― dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 16:29 (four years ago) link
Going full throttle white nationalist isn't going to help him win, the thing to be worried about is disenfranchisement not trump's masterly "political campaigning skills."
this
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 16:31 (four years ago) link
ultimately Trump had two big selling points for persuadable voters in 2020 - "at least the economy is doing well" and "yeah he's an incompetent racist dumbass but none of that really affects ME...", and now we're in a situation where millions are losing their jobs, 100,000 Americans will die, and the economy is cratering, and a lot of that can be traced back to Trump's incompetence. I just don't know who he *gains* in 2020.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 16:34 (four years ago) link
like one thing I heard a lot in 2016 was "what's the worst that can happen, things already suck for us and the Presidency is mostly a show job" and well, now we know
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 16:36 (four years ago) link
can we lock this thread?
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 16:38 (four years ago) link
all true, but also
none of that really affects ME.
He could lose a few handfuls of voters out of sheer stupidity. I mean I haven't looked up the numbers or anything, but another thing to consider: I am a straight white man who normally isn't subject to trump's attacks...except I'm an immigrant (I was a baby, but it's not like I forgot)
― dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 16:38 (four years ago) link
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, April 21, 2020 9:38 AM (thirty-three seconds ago)
If we do I’m gonna have to post “Trump is gonna win” when I’m stressed out in other threads instead of this one which I made so I wouldn’t do that!!
― silby, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 16:39 (four years ago) link
ftr, I approve of this thread's existence! Give me a few weeks and I'll probably post something stressed out myself; I almost did after watching Biden on Desus & Mero
― dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 16:42 (four years ago) link
― silby, Tuesday, April 21, 2020
I'd prefer that option; this is just one more thread to worry about.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link
I appreciate your concern for my acid reflux I guess!
― silby, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link
By the way, we're long past the containment point and have moved on to the mitigation phase.
― Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)
could you say more about what's worrying you about this thread?
i'm not bothered by people who don't pay attention to the polls. i don't pay attention to the polls. honestly, few things drive me up the wall more than the constant horse race talk, the constant "what will the voters do", because how anybody else votes is, for the most part, completely outside my control. the plethora of "what ifs" and and game theory, i used to indulge in that, and it now comes across as an attempt to control what has been for quite a long time for quite a number of people an uncontrollable situation.
i'd rather people talk about their honest feelings than about how, not to pick on anyone, but how someone else's dad is going to vote. i'm not sure how to concern myself with that and stay sane. we've got some strong challenges among us, and i'd like to see us learn how to be kind to each other, and horse race talk goes nowhere towards accomplishing that.
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 16:56 (four years ago) link
I think there’s a line out the door, for real. Someone like nikki Haley obviously would do absolutely anything for it. Tim Scott, rubio…I don’t know, there are lots of examples. Nearly the entire gop rolled over for trump. A handful left the party; everyone else says stop the steal with a vacant thought police demeanor. They are ready to serve, sir
― z_tbd, Saturday, 25 May 2024 13:29 (three days ago) link
Basically any Republican who wants to run for President in 2028 would take the job
― A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Saturday, 25 May 2024 13:34 (three days ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/Rx7kBq0.png
― z_tbd, Saturday, 25 May 2024 14:21 (three days ago) link
Don’t be fooled by the stonks that he got
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 25 May 2024 15:13 (three days ago) link
i think he really is worried about RFK lmao
https://i.imgur.com/nF3ue9J.png
― frogbs, Saturday, 25 May 2024 20:04 (three days ago) link
Going to announce that he had TWO brain worms.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 25 May 2024 20:07 (three days ago) link
The best worms, people are saying
― Millennium Falco (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 25 May 2024 20:48 (three days ago) link
“Oh I love the worms… have you seen the Dune? That’s the kind of worms we will have. Big beautiful worms…only the best.”
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Saturday, 25 May 2024 21:39 (three days ago) link
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/28/democrats-freakout-over-biden-00160047
― A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 15:42 (seven hours ago) link
the twist ending is that biden will win even with the electoral system but the electoral system will collapse, and maga scotus will confirm potus scrotus.
― well below the otm mendoza line (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 15:50 (seven hours ago) link
Politico isn't happy unless someone is freaking out over whatever is happening in politics. It's their bread and butter.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 17:10 (five hours ago) link
the word "genocide" does not appear in anyones freakout calculus in the piece.
― bae (sic), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 17:12 (five hours ago) link
Sad lol, I just assumed it would be but I'm not sure why I assumed that.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 18:07 (four hours ago) link
Feel like this thread is not doing a very good job of containing “Trump is gonna win.”
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 18:38 (four hours ago) link
I save my containing talent for this thread, my genius for my life.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 18:40 (four hours ago) link
trump is gonna win . . . conviction in his campaign finance violation case ;)
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 18:57 (four hours ago) link