The unhappiness of ILX

Never understood why there are so many sub boards (maybe 15 years ago it made more sense). Could merge most of them back to ILE and no-one would bat an eyelid.

yeah i mean, a new board wouldn't be a fix unless every time you clicked on it there was a warning

You know what's in here. Do you really want to read it?

YES! | NO! Take me back!

I do wish all the film threads were in the film section. Why did people completely give up on that?

yeah, i don't know

maybe i should get into film and talk to you lot about it

You should check out the classical threads.

classical music? i don't know much about it. would be interested in learning though.

We're polling the late 60s right now. Everyone is welcome!

ILX has been way worse, and angrier, than this

yes

You should totally get into film, treesh! You should start with the best movie ever made: Paddington 2

ilx has been way better, and angrier than this

paddington 2 is an extraordinarily good film though

We should seriously do a Paddington 2 film club. All watch at the same time.

You should come here - Between the Wars AKA The Jazz Age AKA Centuries of Sound Volume 2 - and talk about the music of 1923 with me, it's not a bad year. 1924 will have Rhapsody in Blue!

What's Paddington 2 about?

oooh the all time great, rhapsody in blue

anyway

i have no other thoughts on the unhappiness of ilx or the issues treesh raises

it, and i mean rhapsody in blue, is about hugh grant being a big old meanie

it's usually just like two word posts or something

you got 2 up yr VELOCITY mayne

one easy trick to end the nonstop overwrought political direness: ban the leftists

imago almost totally wrong mind you

Oh hai esby

What's Paddington 2 about?

ILX has been way worse, and angrier, than this

― El Tomboto, Saturday, April 11, 2020 5:09 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes

― mark s, Saturday, April 11, 2020

Thirded. The late 2000s were grim.

Treesh, I rap your knuckles a lot in part because I'm impatient of using, well, most media for confessional real-time venting. But I love you and I want your happiness.

Many of the album and film threads are terrific. Or the books thread!

I do wish all the film threads were in the film section. Why did people completely give up on that?

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, April 11, 2020 4:03 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

IIRC, when I Love Film was started, it wasn't intended as a place for all ILX film discussion, much of which was already taking place on ILE. It was more of a niche thing, for True Cineastes who wanted to nerd out in their own space. In retrospect, this was maybe a mistake.

What's Paddington 2 about?

about an hour & 40 iirc

― force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, April 11, 2020 10:19 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

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Never understood why there are so many sub boards (maybe 15 years ago it made more sense). Could merge most of them back to ILE and no-one would bat an eyelid.

I maintain ILAFL should retain its independence as an island of esotericism and ephemeral in-jokes

about an hour & 40 iirc

Good lord! Jolly good. Well that is a long time, isn't it?

I might try to start film threads in the film section so we can normalize that place someday.

At least we know ILX is unhappy in its own way.

it is unhappy in a very similar way to twitter

just complete the ILE-fication of ILX and drop the subboards already. It’ll get me to stop posting, if it’s any motivation

this reminds me I need to rewatch paddington 2 because I inexplicably fell asleep which i usually only do during extended action sequences.

Is it better than Trolls World Tour?

Is this it? Is there nothing exciting or interesting to talk about anymore?

i'd like to respond to these questions. i think that since the dawn of messageboards, discussion on pretty much any community can be divided into two broad categories: present and past. as discussions first unravel, there's a ton of history to wade through and establish opinions on.

https://i.imgur.com/2SIEF6s.jpg

for example, during the early years, it is still possible for someone to start the very first krautrock discussion on the board, and see who else is interested, and everyone is kind of learning and also staking out territory or looking for consensus or forming igneous rocks out of hotter takes. in Civilization, these times are known as "golden ages", and you get a big stat bonus while it lasts.

at the same time, the present is happening, and it also gets discussed. that was true back then, just as it's true now. the interest in the present ebbs and flows with time and events, as aimless mentioned above. present times are off the charts interesting and terrifying and weird and bad right now.

anyway, to cut this long post short, my point was going to be that as the ILX years went by, we covered more and more of that larger "past" part of the iceberg. it's like a large mineral deposit that was a great source of discussion for many years but which has now been mostly chipped and chawed away. that doesn't mean there's no point in talking about it, and i enjoy the lists and all that. but it's the difference between rolling stone in 1967 vs a 2017 Uncut retrospective on The Who. it's just a different kind of discussion when it's well trodden territory.

we didn't discuss Campari often in 2005 iirc

I prefer their early stuff

lord kelvin in 1899 iirc

xp that is a good explanation for what happened karl.

we have fallen into decadence, basically

Two suggestions. (Honestly, though, I don't care that much. I used to post regularly on the US politics thread, not as much anymore. I'm much more comfortable posting anything political on Facebook, including on the walls of three ILXors who seem much closer in temperament to me, which basically means it isn't some life-or-death, fight-for-every-square-inch cage match. Someone very soon will point out that yes, it is.)

1. We're mostly liberal and left leaning and agree on the "main things" but viciously tear each other apart on points of disagreement. Start with this. Keep this in mind at all times. If someone doesn't think Joe Biden is the antichrist, and doesn't think Bernie Sanders or AOC or whoever operates on some higher and rarified spiritual plane, don't make it personal. There is this vast middle ground there, and it's not inherently evil.

2. If somebody posts something that's basically unextraordinary but that isn't worded exactly to your liking, let it go. And don't gather around in a circle, playground-style, and zero in on one person. There's somebody who goes through that on a regular basis--and I've seen others who went through it and left--and honestly, it's pathetic.

I accept my ghost dolphin destiny.

it's the difference between rolling stone in 1967 vs a 2017 Uncut retrospective on The Who. it's just a different kind of discussion when it's well trodden territory.

I know this isn't what you meant, but yes, less time should be devoted to classic rock of any variety.

Post Here When You're Tempted to Troll

i don’t read enough ilx these days to know if it’s particularly a problem here but the default miserabilism of the internet nowadays (twitter is “the hell site”, we’re in “the sunken place” or whatever Harry Potter reference) is getting pretty old ya

its been old, starting to think I dont’t have depression or an anxiety disorder because uhhh everybody apparently does as well

the levels of interest in what other posters think have gone through the floor

pathetic upper middle class spoilt brat doesn't understand why the hoi polloi get so angry and depressed thread. thumbs down

i like pathetic upper middle class spoilt brats

You know that new sound you’re looking for?

THAT CREATURE HAS STOLEN THE SPACE MODULATOR!

― Fleetwood Machiavelli (Ye Mad Puffin),Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:18 PM
Lol

that is a good thing obviously and i myself suffer from depression.

i just don't think there needs to be so many politics threads. where are the great debates happening that aren't to do with politics? where something feels like it's at stake but it's not über bleak? i would like to see links to those threads, if they're on ILM or wherever.

― treeship.,Saturday, April 11, 2020 8:52 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

So you're saying there should be an I Love Politics board...?

― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length),Saturday, April 11, 2020 8:53 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think so, yeah

― treeship.,Saturday, April 11, 2020 8:54 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

I just know that I was one of the loudest cheerleaders for the creation of I Love Soccer or whatever its called, to stop those damned kids from kicking their Jabulanis into my yard. All I'm saying is I'd welcome back all those orange-slice eaters into ILE with a hat in hand apology if it meant that the politics threads could find a new home. Preferably in a secret borad that I'll never ask for the invite to.

There's a regularly updated football thread on ILE still. Could make the same exception for politics. Everyone's happy!

I just don’t like to be shouted at.

i have never killfiled anyone but i don't like to be subjected to other people's rage either
irritability and anger are signs of other deeper problems and venting them doesn't solve the problems, it just sprays the problems onto more people
ideally if i have anything to say about it, i am not one of those people getting sprayed

i get that other people talk through their issues in different ways; i'm just not here to get doused in angry droplets

Some posters have taken up very hostile posting styles and have said that they see this as a place to vent or express their despair.

Can I just say that treeship started this thread to complain about other posters doing a thing that he is an absolute master of? Nobody performs their wailing and garment-rending better.

He literally wrote "(I am as guilty of this as anyone)." in the OP

Ok I know this has gone round a time or two but I am having trouble seeing a huge unbridgeable difference between:

A. Not reading a politics thread that is on ILE

and

B. Not reading a politics thread that is on ILP (or whatever)

Not trying to be a jerk, and am happy to be schooled on how different these actions are.

i think the difference is that it's possible to mute entire sub-boards. someone could plausibly mute all of ILP while still enjoying the suddenly reinvigorated ILE, full of glorious discussion and controversial opinions now that politics has gone away

If the board is made, and it won't be, it should be called I Hate Politics

personally, i use site new answers and leave every board on, because i believe in the mission of ilx

It should be called I Enjoy Enemas

Can I just say that treeship started this thread to complain about other posters doing a thing that he is an absolute master of? Nobody performs their wailing and garment-rending better.

― WmC,Tuesday, 14 April 2020 20:48 (forty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

He literally wrote "(I am as guilty of this as anyone)." in the OP

― dip to dup (rob),Tuesday, 14 April 2020 21:00 (thirty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

also very unfair to characterise any of treeship's admittedly signature styles as either of these things

but theres twenty posters perform their wailing and garment rending better. twice twenty.

treeship a very handy punchbag for certain ppl on the board imo.

maybe certain posters make acceptable punchbags or maybe itd be more honest to say we all have different behaviours and characteristics we like in our punchbags and treeship is either in some peoples sweet spot or hasnt got whatever x factor would have enough others jumping in to stop it.

also a politics board wouldnt work.

think of the first thread on ile where someone was told "nope thats politics, take it to ILP"

im gonna pour myself a nice scotch and just sit and enjoy a few minutes thinking of that clusterfuck, and it repeated ten times a week.

There's a regularly updated football thread on ILE still. Could make the same exception for politics. Everyone's happy!

― nashwan,Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:37 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

it's by far the most popular football thread and always has been. the separate forum kept about 0.5% of football posts off of ile

Football and Film are following on from ILB, which has somehow kept the majority of books discussion separate from ILE (which has a lot of its own threads devoted to books and authors in the archives). So it follows the same lines but for some reason only the Books sub-board seems to have a distinct identity.

Politics wouldn't work because it's a subset of current affairs discussion, and much else besides. A disaster like covid is very much tied with the political response so you actually need one thread for that which does not involve this.

personally, i use site new answers and leave every board on, because i believe in the mission of ilx

― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone),Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:10 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

o captain my captain

no, i really see the motivation here. if we don't have to talk about politics, we don't have to worry about it. we can just completely avoid all that unpleasantness and strife. it's pretty much the same thing as football, right?

i use sna and leave every board on because i am old and stupid and don't know how to do anything different

it's pretty much the same thing as football, right?

horse racing iirc

How about I Don't Like Politics, a sub-board where no political discussion is allowed

I am old and stupid

I'm sorry, Kate, but I can't parse that, because "old" obviously can't mean old and "stupid" certainly can't mean stupid. I'm stumped.

xp a better idea but again the first time anyone tries to invoke it, there'll be tears

it's pretty much the same thing as football, right?

Let's see: tribalism, ancient grievances, regional chauvinism, extreme tendentiousness, fierce loyalties, public betrayals of those loyalties, greed, confirmation bias, silly hats, violence, injuries, uniforms, domestic abuse, mental illness, pointless death, purported displays of obligatory patriotism, principled questioning of obligatory patriotism, domestic draft beer, network television, commentators in bad suits, and nachos.

So far I think politics just needs more nachos, and THEN they'll be the same thing.

rooney defending the right

If Joe Biden was a millennial he'd definitely be one of those Americans with an Arsenal tattoo

I'm sorry, Kate, but I can't parse that, because "old" obviously can't mean old and "stupid" certainly can't mean stupid. I'm stumped.

― A is for (Aimless)

awwww, you're a sweetie. it means i have a history of negative self-talk and i am grateful to you for calling me on it. 3>

xp a better idea but again the first time anyone tries to invoke it, there'll be tears

― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac)

ok, let's roll with that. how about I Love A Good Cry, a board where we all give each other virtual hugs and tell each other what amazing people we are?

fine, but the first time anyone oh I see what youve done there

who's happy right now? no sentient person