The unhappiness of ILX

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one easy trick to end the nonstop overwrought political direness: ban the leftists

lumen (esby), Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:15 (four years ago) link

imago almost totally wrong mind you

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:15 (four years ago) link

Oh hai esby

coviderunt omnes (pomenitul), Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:16 (four years ago) link

What's Paddington 2 about?


about an hour & 40 iirc

force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link

ILX has been way worse, and angrier, than this

― El Tomboto, Saturday, April 11, 2020 5:09 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes

― mark s, Saturday, April 11, 2020

Thirded. The late 2000s were grim.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:20 (four years ago) link

Treesh, I rap your knuckles a lot in part because I'm impatient of using, well, most media for confessional real-time venting. But I love you and I want your happiness.

Many of the album and film threads are terrific. Or the books thread!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link

I do wish all the film threads were in the film section. Why did people completely give up on that?

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, April 11, 2020 4:03 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

IIRC, when I Love Film was started, it wasn't intended as a place for all ILX film discussion, much of which was already taking place on ILE. It was more of a niche thing, for True Cineastes who wanted to nerd out in their own space. In retrospect, this was maybe a mistake.

jaymc, Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link

What's Paddington 2 about?

about an hour & 40 iirc

― force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, April 11, 2020 10:19 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

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Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link

Never understood why there are so many sub boards (maybe 15 years ago it made more sense). Could merge most of them back to ILE and no-one would bat an eyelid.

I maintain ILAFL should retain its independence as an island of esotericism and ephemeral in-jokes

sarahell, Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link

about an hour & 40 iirc

Good lord! Jolly good. Well that is a long time, isn't it?

mookieproof, Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:25 (four years ago) link

I might try to start film threads in the film section so we can normalize that place someday.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link

At least we know ILX is unhappy in its own way.

coviderunt omnes (pomenitul), Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:30 (four years ago) link

it is unhappy in a very similar way to twitter

treeship., Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:30 (four years ago) link

just complete the ILE-fication of ILX and drop the subboards already. It’ll get me to stop posting, if it’s any motivation

brimstead, Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:32 (four years ago) link

this reminds me I need to rewatch paddington 2 because I inexplicably fell asleep which i usually only do during extended action sequences.

Yerac, Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:35 (four years ago) link

Is it better than Trolls World Tour?

coviderunt omnes (pomenitul), Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:35 (four years ago) link

Is this it? Is there nothing exciting or interesting to talk about anymore?

i'd like to respond to these questions. i think that since the dawn of messageboards, discussion on pretty much any community can be divided into two broad categories: present and past. as discussions first unravel, there's a ton of history to wade through and establish opinions on.

https://i.imgur.com/2SIEF6s.jpg

for example, during the early years, it is still possible for someone to start the very first krautrock discussion on the board, and see who else is interested, and everyone is kind of learning and also staking out territory or looking for consensus or forming igneous rocks out of hotter takes. in Civilization, these times are known as "golden ages", and you get a big stat bonus while it lasts.

at the same time, the present is happening, and it also gets discussed. that was true back then, just as it's true now. the interest in the present ebbs and flows with time and events, as aimless mentioned above. present times are off the charts interesting and terrifying and weird and bad right now.

anyway, to cut this long post short, my point was going to be that as the ILX years went by, we covered more and more of that larger "past" part of the iceberg. it's like a large mineral deposit that was a great source of discussion for many years but which has now been mostly chipped and chawed away. that doesn't mean there's no point in talking about it, and i enjoy the lists and all that. but it's the difference between rolling stone in 1967 vs a 2017 Uncut retrospective on The Who. it's just a different kind of discussion when it's well trodden territory.

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:37 (four years ago) link

we didn't discuss Campari often in 2005 iirc

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link

I prefer their early stuff

Pliny O'Toole (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link

lord kelvin in 1899 iirc

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link

xp that is a good explanation for what happened karl.

we have fallen into decadence, basically

treeship., Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:41 (four years ago) link

Two suggestions. (Honestly, though, I don't care that much. I used to post regularly on the US politics thread, not as much anymore. I'm much more comfortable posting anything political on Facebook, including on the walls of three ILXors who seem much closer in temperament to me, which basically means it isn't some life-or-death, fight-for-every-square-inch cage match. Someone very soon will point out that yes, it is.)

1. We're mostly liberal and left leaning and agree on the "main things" but viciously tear each other apart on points of disagreement. Start with this. Keep this in mind at all times. If someone doesn't think Joe Biden is the antichrist, and doesn't think Bernie Sanders or AOC or whoever operates on some higher and rarified spiritual plane, don't make it personal. There is this vast middle ground there, and it's not inherently evil.

2. If somebody posts something that's basically unextraordinary but that isn't worded exactly to your liking, let it go. And don't gather around in a circle, playground-style, and zero in on one person. There's somebody who goes through that on a regular basis--and I've seen others who went through it and left--and honestly, it's pathetic.

clemenza, Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:42 (four years ago) link

I accept my ghost dolphin destiny.

nashwan, Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:46 (four years ago) link

it's the difference between rolling stone in 1967 vs a 2017 Uncut retrospective on The Who. it's just a different kind of discussion when it's well trodden territory.

I know this isn't what you meant, but yes, less time should be devoted to classic rock of any variety.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:46 (four years ago) link

Post Here When You're Tempted to Troll

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:48 (four years ago) link

i don’t read enough ilx these days to know if it’s particularly a problem here but the default miserabilism of the internet nowadays (twitter is “the hell site”, we’re in “the sunken place” or whatever Harry Potter reference) is getting pretty old ya

flopson, Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link

its been old, starting to think I dont’t have depression or an anxiety disorder because uhhh everybody apparently does as well

brimstead, Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:57 (four years ago) link

the levels of interest in what other posters think have gone through the floor

ogmor, Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:58 (four years ago) link

pathetic upper middle class spoilt brat doesn't understand why the hoi polloi get so angry and depressed thread. thumbs down

calzino, Saturday, 11 April 2020 21:59 (four years ago) link

i like pathetic upper middle class spoilt brats

ogmor, Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:00 (four years ago) link

Solipsism is the only way out of this state of affairs imho.

coviderunt omnes (pomenitul), Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:01 (four years ago) link

pathetic upper middle class spoilt brat doesn't understand why the hoi polloi get so angry and depressed thread. thumbs down

― calzino, Saturday, April 11, 2020 5:59 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

im not really aware of most ilx posters’ class status, but posters on depression anxiety thread seem to be of all various backgrounds

flopson, Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:06 (four years ago) link

not sure if it was irony but the presumption in calzino’s that all internet negativity is politically justified rage of the oppressed seems pretty obviously wrong and is another annoying current running thru discourse rn

flopson, Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:09 (four years ago) link

One of my regular forums is made up of more depressed people than this one and the energy is completely different. I guess it might be that complete pessimists are less angry? Does this forum have many people who genuinely wish they weren't born?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:20 (four years ago) link

Does this forum have many people who genuinely wish they weren't born?

Check out the form babby thread.

coviderunt omnes (pomenitul), Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:20 (four years ago) link

"but the presumption in calzino’s that all internet negativity is politically justified rage"

"all internet negativity" lol you are fucking joke!

calzino, Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:21 (four years ago) link

Im just a simpleton but it’s funny to me that Ambedkar dissed Gandhi for slumming it when the Buddha was the ultimate slummer!!

brimstead, Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:21 (four years ago) link

ambedkar dissed buddha quite a bit too

ogmor, Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:24 (four years ago) link

yeah like I said, there’s a lot I don’t know

brimstead, Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:25 (four years ago) link

the levels of interest in what other posters think have gone through the floor


otm, this is a core of what’s “wrong” here. It’s not a news feed. nb i sometimes treat it as such and fp myself too

Joey Corona (Euler), Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:26 (four years ago) link

The good part of ILXOR has always been ILM or later specialty boards. Main ILX is going to be current events (which is going to be angry and depressed because the world has been a dumpster fire for the entirety of our lives), casual movie/media talk or the insufferable twee shit that used to be more common where three catfishing sock puppets would high five each other about their workday.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:27 (four years ago) link

Calzino, for those of us who are not as on top of things, could you explain in what way Treeship is a spoilt brat?

Mule, Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:28 (four years ago) link

the levels of interest in what other posters think have gone through the floor

― ogmor, Saturday, April 11, 2020 5:58 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes! this is a big part of the problem.

treeship., Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:29 (four years ago) link

We're mostly liberal and left leaning and agree on the "main things"

also worth pointing out that this actually isn't really true - there's a pretty large divergence in political opinion at ILX even if it's all ostensibly 'on the left.' Socialists and social democrats and liberals aren't naturally allies.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:29 (four years ago) link

im pretty sure calzone is fake hardmanning as a joke

flopson, Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:30 (four years ago) link

The good part of ILXOR has always been ILM or later specialty boards. Main ILX is going to be current events (which is going to be angry and depressed because the world has been a dumpster fire for the entirety of our lives), casual movie/media talk or the insufferable twee shit that used to be more common where three catfishing sock puppets would high five each other about their workday.

― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, April 11, 2020 6:27 PM (one minute ago)


Lol/Truth Bomb

Three Hundred Pounds of Almond Joy (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:30 (four years ago) link

ogmor otm but tbh I'm already putting little to no effort into all other areas of my life atm so the prospect of becoming a better, more substantial ILXor is fairly low on my list of human priorities.

coviderunt omnes (pomenitul), Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:32 (four years ago) link

"but the presumption in calzino’s that all internet negativity is politically justified rage"

"all internet negativity" lol you are fucking joke!

― calzino, Saturday, April 11, 2020 6:21 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

dgmw i agree with treeship that there are way too many angry dumb leftists like milo around. i just dont think the split between angry dumb left, smart left, dumb lib, smart lib maps into class neatly, or at all

flopson, Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:35 (four years ago) link

This thread is like one of those "which quarantine house would you like to be in?" memes, in particular the "not that one, nice people but it's going to kick off immediately" choice.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:37 (four years ago) link

people always find agreeable ways of stanning for the status quo when it hasn't been so bad to them or reducing voices that shout against it. I'm sticking up for people who are angry and have been fucked over by their respective governments because i know exactly what it feels like when you are one step from really being in the shit and feeling suicidal because of it. I'm not saying there is anything unique about that and there are probably plenty others on here that have been in similar positions. I'm basically saying stfu to the smug as fuck OP.

calzino, Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:43 (four years ago) link

it's pretty much the same thing as football, right?

horse racing iirc

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 23:47 (four years ago) link

How about I Don't Like Politics, a sub-board where no political discussion is allowed

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 23:47 (four years ago) link

I am old and stupid

I'm sorry, Kate, but I can't parse that, because "old" obviously can't mean old and "stupid" certainly can't mean stupid. I'm stumped.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 23:49 (four years ago) link

xp a better idea but again the first time anyone tries to invoke it, there'll be tears

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 23:50 (four years ago) link

it's pretty much the same thing as football, right?

Let's see: tribalism, ancient grievances, regional chauvinism, extreme tendentiousness, fierce loyalties, public betrayals of those loyalties, greed, confirmation bias, silly hats, violence, injuries, uniforms, domestic abuse, mental illness, pointless death, purported displays of obligatory patriotism, principled questioning of obligatory patriotism, domestic draft beer, network television, commentators in bad suits, and nachos.

So far I think politics just needs more nachos, and THEN they'll be the same thing.

Fleetwood Machiavelli (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 23:52 (four years ago) link

rooney defending the right

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 23:54 (four years ago) link

If Joe Biden was a millennial he'd definitely be one of those Americans with an Arsenal tattoo

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 23:54 (four years ago) link

I'm sorry, Kate, but I can't parse that, because "old" obviously can't mean old and "stupid" certainly can't mean stupid. I'm stumped.

― A is for (Aimless)

awwww, you're a sweetie. it means i have a history of negative self-talk and i am grateful to you for calling me on it. 3>

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 00:01 (four years ago) link

xp a better idea but again the first time anyone tries to invoke it, there'll be tears

― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac)

ok, let's roll with that. how about I Love A Good Cry, a board where we all give each other virtual hugs and tell each other what amazing people we are?

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 00:03 (four years ago) link

fine, but the first time anyone oh I see what youve done there

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 00:09 (four years ago) link

who's happy right now? no sentient person

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 00:57 (four years ago) link


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