that's a pretty milk rebuke, though. what candidate would run the same campaign in 2020 that they did in 2008?
(ok, i just realized the answer to that is joe biden, but my point still sort of stands)
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:06 (four years ago) link
Amash considering run for President as a Libertarian. Can't see this impacting anything very much frankly.
― akm, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:08 (four years ago) link
maybe it'll have an influence on all the left-leaning people who have been approvingly retweeting Amash's tweets the last several months, like he's anything other than a lifelong republican who realized trump is a dick and rebranded into a libertarian
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:09 (four years ago) link
yeah once they get a wind of his actual stances on most things they'll come to their senses. I like Romney more than Amash.
― akm, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:11 (four years ago) link
i at least respect the consistency of his wrongness, that still feels preferable to me to the constant oscillation between mealy-mouthed "principled" stands and outright toadying as exemplified by Mittens.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:19 (four years ago) link
maaaaybe he could complicate Utah, although that might have been more competitive without mcmullin last time.
― š šš¢šØ (caek), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:25 (four years ago) link
i think Trump is going to be the central animating force in conservatism until the day he dies. i don't think it's going to be like it was with Dubya; Trump isn't going to retreat from the spotlight and allow anyone else to fill the vacuum.
I'm sure the QAnon types will follow him to the end of the earth but I feel like we're 1 or 5 years away from the Republican party memory holing him entirely. the GOP's fealty to him is entirely due to the power he wields and I really think as soon as he's out they'll treat him the same as they did during the 2016 primaries
― frogbs, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link
i think amash has always been a doctrinaire libertarian, suckered into the republican party by believing hard in tea party nonsense
― fauci wally (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link
tbf to Amash I think heās always been pretty libertarian, in a much more āprincipledā way than either of the Pauls. but also in the interest of fairness, someone should apprise Justin that there are about 53 white guys in America who actually align with this ideology, and that 99.63% of the internet ālibertariansā that seemed to have such an outsized online presence during the Obama years have gone full-on alt-right pepe/ MAGA chud lol yeah xpost
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link
frogbs otm, I think. It's gonna be really rough when these bootlickers start pretending they always hated him and never supported him.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link
I've no doubt every Trump bootlicker in Congress loathes him beacuse they have to lick his boots, and they'll abandon him if he loses or leaves office in 2024.
Then they'll find another pair of boots.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:52 (four years ago) link
there should be a distinction between other politicians and run-of-the mill alt-right dipshits. politicians, as alfred says, will drop him asap.
the masses of dipshits, though - they might stay with him longer than you all think. remember that they were into him before his presidency, too, when his main issue was obama's birth certificate. and they could stick with him afterward, too, in the same way that alex jones managed to find a large audience. it's almost better to not be in power, for incredibly dumb people on the right - much easier to be an opposition party and run rampant with conspiracy theories then running a government and dealing with crises
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link
I'm hoping Trump endures an exile more humiliating even than Nixon's. (Probably not possible, in that Trump won't be calling up current presidents and abjectly trying to ingratiate himself by offering unsolicited counsel.)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:57 (four years ago) link
I think the fact that the trump family doesn't have any deep ties to republican politics or conservativism in general increases the chance that the exit phase will be a shitshow. they don't care about burning the party down.
― iatee, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 17:00 (four years ago) link
He will when one of his kids becomes President, which feels quite plausible even now xp
― nashwan, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 17:00 (four years ago) link
idk I hope Iām wrong but win or lose in Nov, I think heās going to be the new conservative standard bearer, a la Reagan, especially once the majority of voters arenāt old enough to have voted for Reagan his unwavering popularity within the party is shocking. i guess losing to sleepy corrupt Joe could shake some of them loose, but I just canāt see future conservative (and lib media) darlings like Haley or Hawley or that whiney one-eyed bitch ever saying a cross word about DJT.
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link
(mostly bc I think the conservative project is going to be pretty mask off wrt white nationalism going forward, and Trump was the guy who really moved the needle on that)
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 17:05 (four years ago) link
To amend what I said above, he will be offering lots of unsolicited counsel, non-stop from the moment he leaves, more than any ex-president ever, it just won't be in private phone calls.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 17:08 (four years ago) link
and he'll charge you nicely for it, it'll the best advice ever. Best advice.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 17:11 (four years ago) link
It's gonna be really rough when these bootlickers start pretending they always hated him and never supported him.
they've had several years of practice wildly flip flopping their beliefs based on the whims of Daddy Trump and at this point nobody expects them to have any principles so I doubt they'll ever really be pressed on it. fwiw I don't expect any of them to speak out against him but the idea that TrumpTV/OAN is gonna have any influence on the Congress of 2022 is pretty doubtful
and they could stick with him afterward, too, in the same way that alex jones managed to find a large audience.
as awful of a person as he is (and Hannity, and Rush, and Tucker, etc), he's at least an entertaining TV personality. even FOX news has trouble running uninterrupted Trump for more than a few minutes at a time. even during his Apprentice days he was basically glued to the teleprompter.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 17:15 (four years ago) link
his unwavering popularity within the party is shocking.
Not when you consider that it tracks with an overall contraction in Republican party member ID. Fewer and fewer people actually identify as Republicans; the ones that are left are the most devoted cult brethren, the poison-drinkers.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 17:16 (four years ago) link
I also think even if Joe wins the popular and electoral vote handily, the 90+% of Trump supporters in the GOP will go to their graves absolutely convinced that he was cheated/ deep state shenanigans/ voter fraud etc. and not one single GOP leader or future candidate will attempt to disabuse them of this.
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 17:20 (four years ago) link
oh Grancy
is "routing calls through China" the explanation here as to why Pelosi thought Zoom was a "Chinese entity" or is anyone going to point out the CEO of Zoom is a Chinese-American and this is also maybe, perhaps the reason for her confusion. https://t.co/YJ5NYIfbOr— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) April 15, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link
Zoom is 100% garbage, I agree with Nancy here on the top-line.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link
^^^
There's no wrong reason to be anti-Zoom. Zoom is bad news for a host of reasons.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 17:56 (four years ago) link
it's about heritage
Pro-Coronavirus rally in Michigan prominently features confederate and Trump flags. https://t.co/DKSD8kJ06D— Kombiz Lavasany (@kombiz) April 15, 2020
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:00 (four years ago) link
Iām trying to get my head round a āpro Coronavirus rallyā
― I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:11 (four years ago) link
not complicated when u remember that these people are death cultists
― silby, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:12 (four years ago) link
Okay so
Pro-Coronavirus rally
(record-scratch noise) Wait, what? Is a "Pro-Coronavirus rally" at thing now? What are the chants like?
"Hey hey, ho ho / masks and gloves have got to go!"
"Social distancing doesn't inspire us / please let us inhale that virus!"
"Science and public health are bosh! / Hell, no, we won't wash!"
"Breathing air is overrated / Please let me be intubated!"
"We crave the sweet release of death / We don't want another breath!"
― Fleetwood Machiavelli (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link
i am pro Coronafederacy; they're assholes anyway so let them lose their health
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link
Amash considering run for President as a Libertarian. Can't see this impacting anything very much frankly.ā akm,Wednesday, April 15, 2020 11:08 AM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
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Interestingly, the Detroit News conducted a Biden vs. Trump vs. Amash poll in Michigan nearly a year ago (late May 2019). The results were Biden 45, Trump 39, Amash 10.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:22 (four years ago) link
feel like Amash would do numbers in WA, OR, ID
― silby, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:23 (four years ago) link
Wait, what? Is a "Pro-Coronavirus rally" at thing now? What are the chants like?
They are protesting the shutdown and demanding businesses be reopened.
They are doing this by sitting in their cars, separated from each other.
― donald failson (sic), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:33 (four years ago) link
Three percent of Bernie voters went for Gary Johnson in 2016: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bernie-sanders-was-helped-by-the-neverhillary-vote-what-does-that-mean-for-his-chances-now/
Maybe same number would vote Amash? Or maybe those people were just extremely confused?
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:34 (four years ago) link
XP Did Kid Rock perform?
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link
I have wanted to believe this for some time but the numbers are just not there; GOP party ID has shrunk, but only minimally. There are millions of people who in the middle 2016 were voting for Ted Cruz and pleading for someone to stop Trump who now are full Trump brethren. But the very fact that this is possible is why those same people, should Trump lose, are honestly going to believe in 2024 that they were Josh Hawley Republicans all along and it's a good thing the party has moved past Trump.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:40 (four years ago) link
those same people, should Trump lose, are honestly going to believe in 2024 that they were Josh Hawley Republicans all along and it's a good thing the party has moved past Trump.
otm
i finally got my mom and dad to say they wouldn't vote for trump this time around. they claim they were "duped"
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:41 (four years ago) link
(btw, the thing they were "duped" about is that trump seemed to take coronavirus seriously last week, and they think it's overblown)
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:42 (four years ago) link
Will be forever haunted by this image of protestors in Ohio demanding the governor open businesses back up pic.twitter.com/P0nivaYSsY— future canon (@futurecanon) April 15, 2020
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link
i don't like those kind of movies
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link
TS: Protestors in Joker make-up vs. Protestors wearing V For Vendetta Guy Fawkes masks.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 21:32 (four years ago) link
So, at least there was one protestor observing the CDC recommendation to wear a face mask.
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 21:44 (four years ago) link
awesome, Karl - good work!
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 22:10 (four years ago) link
i finally got my mom and dad to say they wouldn't vote for trump this time around. they claim they were "duped"Yeah thatās rad. My folks were of the āhold yr nose and vote GOPā variety but Iāve got the sneakiest suspicion that theyāre a-ok now w the new normal.
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 22:22 (four years ago) link
somebody just asked trump about the $1200 stimulus checks that are being delayed because he wants his signature on it.
he says that he doesn't know anything about it, apparently his name is going to be on there, and that it won't delay anything
case closed!
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 22:33 (four years ago) link
daniel dale's ulcer is about to explode
Thatās why heās the boss
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 22:36 (four years ago) link
Donald Trump is threatening to use a never-before-employed power of his office to adjourn both chambers of Congress so he can make ārecess appointmentsā to fill vacant positions within his administration he says Senate Democrats are keeping empty amid the coronavirus pandemic.
Mr Trump opened his daily virus press conference on Wednesday by griping about Senate Democrats blocking tens of his nominees, alleging many otherwise would be working on virus-related efforts. He offered few specifics, however, on how the federal virus response might be different if a substantial amount of those individuals had been approved by the upper chamber.
Article II, Section 3, Clause 3 of the US Constitution gives a president the power to adjourn both chambers if they cannot agree on an adjourn date. No chief executive, however, has ever used it.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-adjourn-chambers-of-congress-senate-house-white-house-briefing-constitution-a9467616.html
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 22:53 (four years ago) link
more and more ingersoll lockwood is looking like a prophet (or a tremendous hoax!), especially 1900: Or, The Last President
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-predicted-ingersoll-lockwood-adventures-barron-melania-last-644284
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/baron-trumps-marvelous-underground-journey/
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/60479
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 16 April 2020 14:19 (four years ago) link
bitchy! lol task force of hundreds
The Hill reports:
Sen. Mitt Romney (Utah) is the only Republican senator not on a congressional task force created by the White House to study reopening parts of the country shuttered by the coronavirus. A list released by the White House on Thursday afternoon of the āOpening Up America Again Congressional Groupā included nearly 70 senators, including all 52 of Romneyās GOP colleagues in the chamber.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 April 2020 00:27 (four years ago) link