US Politics, April 2020 -- Where's the Vax Returns?

I've no doubt every Trump bootlicker in Congress loathes him beacuse they have to lick his boots, and they'll abandon him if he loses or leaves office in 2024.

Then they'll find another pair of boots.

there should be a distinction between other politicians and run-of-the mill alt-right dipshits. politicians, as alfred says, will drop him asap.

the masses of dipshits, though - they might stay with him longer than you all think. remember that they were into him before his presidency, too, when his main issue was obama's birth certificate. and they could stick with him afterward, too, in the same way that alex jones managed to find a large audience. it's almost better to not be in power, for incredibly dumb people on the right - much easier to be an opposition party and run rampant with conspiracy theories then running a government and dealing with crises

I'm hoping Trump endures an exile more humiliating even than Nixon's. (Probably not possible, in that Trump won't be calling up current presidents and abjectly trying to ingratiate himself by offering unsolicited counsel.)

I think the fact that the trump family doesn't have any deep ties to republican politics or conservativism in general increases the chance that the exit phase will be a shitshow. they don't care about burning the party down.

He will when one of his kids becomes President, which feels quite plausible even now xp

idk I hope I’m wrong but win or lose in Nov, I think he’s going to be the new conservative standard bearer, a la Reagan, especially once the majority of voters aren’t old enough to have voted for Reagan

his unwavering popularity within the party is shocking. i guess losing to sleepy corrupt Joe could shake some of them loose, but I just can’t see future conservative (and lib media) darlings like Haley or Hawley or that whiney one-eyed bitch ever saying a cross word about DJT.

(mostly bc I think the conservative project is going to be pretty mask off wrt white nationalism going forward, and Trump was the guy who really moved the needle on that)

To amend what I said above, he will be offering lots of unsolicited counsel, non-stop from the moment he leaves, more than any ex-president ever, it just won't be in private phone calls.

and he'll charge you nicely for it, it'll the best advice ever. Best advice.

It's gonna be really rough when these bootlickers start pretending they always hated him and never supported him.

they've had several years of practice wildly flip flopping their beliefs based on the whims of Daddy Trump and at this point nobody expects them to have any principles so I doubt they'll ever really be pressed on it. fwiw I don't expect any of them to speak out against him but the idea that TrumpTV/OAN is gonna have any influence on the Congress of 2022 is pretty doubtful

and they could stick with him afterward, too, in the same way that alex jones managed to find a large audience.

as awful of a person as he is (and Hannity, and Rush, and Tucker, etc), he's at least an entertaining TV personality. even FOX news has trouble running uninterrupted Trump for more than a few minutes at a time. even during his Apprentice days he was basically glued to the teleprompter.

his unwavering popularity within the party is shocking.

Not when you consider that it tracks with an overall contraction in Republican party member ID. Fewer and fewer people actually identify as Republicans; the ones that are left are the most devoted cult brethren, the poison-drinkers.

I also think even if Joe wins the popular and electoral vote handily, the 90+% of Trump supporters in the GOP will go to their graves absolutely convinced that he was cheated/ deep state shenanigans/ voter fraud etc.

and not one single GOP leader or future candidate will attempt to disabuse them of this.

oh Grancy

is "routing calls through China" the explanation here as to why Pelosi thought Zoom was a "Chinese entity" or is anyone going to point out the CEO of Zoom is a Chinese-American and this is also maybe, perhaps the reason for her confusion. https://t.co/YJ5NYIfbOr

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) April 15, 2020

Zoom is 100% garbage, I agree with Nancy here on the top-line.

^^^

There's no wrong reason to be anti-Zoom. Zoom is bad news for a host of reasons.

it's about heritage

Pro-Coronavirus rally in Michigan prominently features confederate and Trump flags. https://t.co/DKSD8kJ06D

— Kombiz Lavasany (@kombiz) April 15, 2020

I’m trying to get my head round a “pro Coronavirus rally”

not complicated when u remember that these people are death cultists

Okay so

Pro-Coronavirus rally

(record-scratch noise) Wait, what? Is a "Pro-Coronavirus rally" at thing now? What are the chants like?

"Hey hey, ho ho / masks and gloves have got to go!"

"Social distancing doesn't inspire us / please let us inhale that virus!"

"Science and public health are bosh! / Hell, no, we won't wash!"

"Breathing air is overrated / Please let me be intubated!"

"We crave the sweet release of death / We don't want another breath!"

i am pro Coronafederacy; they're assholes anyway so let them lose their health

Amash considering run for President as a Libertarian. Can't see this impacting anything very much frankly.

― akm,Wednesday, April 15, 2020 11:08 AM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Interestingly, the Detroit News conducted a Biden vs. Trump vs. Amash poll in Michigan nearly a year ago (late May 2019). The results were Biden 45, Trump 39, Amash 10.

feel like Amash would do numbers in WA, OR, ID

Wait, what? Is a "Pro-Coronavirus rally" at thing now? What are the chants like?

They are protesting the shutdown and demanding businesses be reopened.

They are doing this by sitting in their cars, separated from each other.

Three percent of Bernie voters went for Gary Johnson in 2016: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bernie-sanders-was-helped-by-the-neverhillary-vote-what-does-that-mean-for-his-chances-now/

Maybe same number would vote Amash? Or maybe those people were just extremely confused?

XP Did Kid Rock perform?

Not when you consider that it tracks with an overall contraction in Republican party member ID. Fewer and fewer people actually identify as Republicans; the ones that are left are the most devoted cult brethren, the poison-drinkers.

I have wanted to believe this for some time but the numbers are just not there; GOP party ID has shrunk, but only minimally. There are millions of people who in the middle 2016 were voting for Ted Cruz and pleading for someone to stop Trump who now are full Trump brethren. But the very fact that this is possible is why those same people, should Trump lose, are honestly going to believe in 2024 that they were Josh Hawley Republicans all along and it's a good thing the party has moved past Trump.

those same people, should Trump lose, are honestly going to believe in 2024 that they were Josh Hawley Republicans all along and it's a good thing the party has moved past Trump.

otm

i finally got my mom and dad to say they wouldn't vote for trump this time around. they claim they were "duped"

(btw, the thing they were "duped" about is that trump seemed to take coronavirus seriously last week, and they think it's overblown)

Will be forever haunted by this image of protestors in Ohio demanding the governor open businesses back up pic.twitter.com/P0nivaYSsY

— future canon (@futurecanon) April 15, 2020

i don't like those kind of movies

TS: Protestors in Joker make-up vs. Protestors wearing V For Vendetta Guy Fawkes masks.

So, at least there was one protestor observing the CDC recommendation to wear a face mask.

i finally got my mom and dad to say they wouldn't vote for trump this time around. they claim they were "duped"

awesome, Karl - good work!

i finally got my mom and dad to say they wouldn't vote for trump this time around. they claim they were "duped"

Yeah that’s rad. My folks were of the ‘hold yr nose and vote GOP’ variety but I’ve got the sneakiest suspicion that they’re a-ok now w the new normal.

somebody just asked trump about the $1200 stimulus checks that are being delayed because he wants his signature on it.

he says that he doesn't know anything about it, apparently his name is going to be on there, and that it won't delay anything

case closed!

daniel dale's ulcer is about to explode

That’s why he’s the boss

Donald Trump is threatening to use a never-before-employed power of his office to adjourn both chambers of Congress so he can make “recess appointments” to fill vacant positions within his administration he says Senate Democrats are keeping empty amid the coronavirus pandemic.

Mr Trump opened his daily virus press conference on Wednesday by griping about Senate Democrats blocking tens of his nominees, alleging many otherwise would be working on virus-related efforts. He offered few specifics, however, on how the federal virus response might be different if a substantial amount of those individuals had been approved by the upper chamber.

Article II, Section 3, Clause 3 of the US Constitution gives a president the power to adjourn both chambers if they cannot agree on an adjourn date. No chief executive, however, has ever used it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-adjourn-chambers-of-congress-senate-house-white-house-briefing-constitution-a9467616.html

more and more ingersoll lockwood is looking like a prophet (or a tremendous hoax!), especially 1900: Or, The Last President

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-predicted-ingersoll-lockwood-adventures-barron-melania-last-644284

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/baron-trumps-marvelous-underground-journey/

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/60479

bitchy! lol task force of hundreds

The Hill reports:

Sen. Mitt Romney (Utah) is the only Republican senator not on a congressional task force created by the White House to study reopening parts of the country shuttered by the coronavirus. A list released by the White House on Thursday afternoon of the “Opening Up America Again Congressional Group” included nearly 70 senators, including all 52 of Romney’s GOP colleagues in the chamber.

lol he really gambled and lost huh

How will our nation's magic underwear industry restart then, huh? HUH?

Progress:

Trump 2016: Make America Great Again: Build The Wall

Trump 2020: Opening Up America Again

they'll just have to do a (skid)markdown

lol Florida

https://www.jacksonville.com/news/20200417/coronavirus-st-johns-beaches-to-re-open-as-lsquofirst-step-in-our-return-to-normal-lifersquo

They are insane....Fox News Laura Ingraham tweet:

How many of those who urged our govt to help liberate the Iraqis, Syrians, Kurds, Afghanis, etc., are as committed now to liberating Virginia, Minnesota, California, etc?

state house shootings could become the new school shootings

free slogan for the DNC: LIBERATE THE WHITE HOUSE

(tho i'd prefer it done before November... like this weekend)

Ah, yes, the federal government should send in troops to impose regime change in those states, which are currently under the heavy oppression of their elected governors, operating under emergency powers granted by their elected legislatures, because THIS IS AN EMERGENCY, YOU FUCKFACE!

he is the most unfairly treated president

One of the weirdest and worst asymmetries in policy right now is that banks and big corporations can get fast, basically unlimited help from the Fed, while small biz and individual help is limited and slowed by congressional process and dysfunction.

— Ezra Klein (@ezraklein) April 17, 2020