oh no i'm getting that condition when I keep repeating myself when I'm lying
― calzino, Thursday, 16 April 2020 14:50 (four years ago) link
it's Karl Marx's birthday on the 5th May. just sayin'
― où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:04 (four years ago) link
A very nice guy I used to know insisted Ben Fogle was the most horrible person he had ever had to work with
― ogmor, Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:17 (four years ago) link
His mum's been on the telly a lot recently.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:22 (four years ago) link
is he related to jared
― megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:24 (four years ago) link
let's collectively try and will the Rona to enter the palace and infect the queen by all shouting Die Parasite!
― calzino, Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:35 (four years ago) link
Q: Sky analysis shows 70% of health and care staff who have died from coronavirus were from a BAME background. What can you do about that?Raab says the government wants to investigate this.Whitty says it is critical to find out who is most at risk.Three risk factors are very clear: age, having a disease such as cardiovascular disease, and being male.He says being a member of an ethnic minority group is less clear as a risk factor.He says he has been looking at this carefully. Public Health England is looking at it too.But at this point in time, “this is not yet clear, in terms of ethnic minorities”.there’s a name for people who see inequality of outcomes as a genetic question, can’t remember what it is. hmm it’ll come to me
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 April 2020 16:40 (four years ago) link
Toby Youngs?
― calzino, Thursday, 16 April 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link
Some diseases disproportionately affect minorities, aside from environmental/ behavioural factors. It seems unlikely that COVID is one of them. Whether one could intersect with COVID risk factors (Type 2 diabetes in South Asians being 2x national norm, etc) might be more important.
wrt the NHS, two factors are potentially the crisis predominantly hitting metropolitan areas (not much point in looking at % of BAME staff across the whole NHS if people are most at risk in London, Birmingham, Manchester, etc and whether white doctors / nurses tend to retire earlier or move into the low-risk private sector in larger numbers after a certain age.
However, it’s difficult to look at cases like the pregnant nurse who was kept on high-risk duty after the cut-off point where she should have been deployed elsewhere, or where more than one NHS worker complained about being ill and was ignored to die at home, and not wonder whether there is a racialised component to how people are being treated.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 16 April 2020 17:07 (four years ago) link
Probably the only genetic component to this is how hard men are being hit by it.
― gyac, Thursday, 16 April 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link
even that more likely to be hormonal i think
― ogmor, Thursday, 16 April 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link
I saw some speculation that vitamin D levels might be significant and that is affected by skin colour and climate, but idk
― ogmor, Thursday, 16 April 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link
I’m hoovering up vitamin C and D supplements, magnesium and zinc. I was warned to get my vitamin D up a few years ago so I already was, but the others are extra.
― santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 16 April 2020 18:07 (four years ago) link
i was trying to find vit c last week but no one had it
― mark s, Thursday, 16 April 2020 18:10 (four years ago) link
i have a huge jar of a+d
― mark s, Thursday, 16 April 2020 18:11 (four years ago) link
yes I can't find vitamins or dried pasta so I am having to make do with fruit and fresh pasta
― ogmor, Thursday, 16 April 2020 19:00 (four years ago) link
Oranges!
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 April 2020 19:04 (four years ago) link
Those of you looking for Vitamin C - you will find soluble C tablets in Sainsbury’s (even the ‘local’ branches) for £1.35 per tube of 20. It’s £1.75 in Tesco and even more in Superdrug for an almost identical product (£2.75 for C and zinc IF you find it). Superdrug also doing 3 for 2 on vitamins which mitigates some of the high prices.
― santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 16 April 2020 19:20 (four years ago) link
There's some debate over whether vitamin supplements work and I'm certainly not sure that vitamin C will do much more than eating oranges or drinking juice - even though I've been taking them as well. Don't worry about going without them basically.
Vitamin D supplements and zinc will probably make more of a difference.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 16 April 2020 19:35 (four years ago) link
And magnesium will help with regulating sleep.
― santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 16 April 2020 19:39 (four years ago) link
If only the rozzers would allow you to sit in the sun in the park for a few minutes you could make your own
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Thursday, 16 April 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
Vit D, not magnesium, I do not recommend making magnesium in the park
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Thursday, 16 April 2020 19:46 (four years ago) link
I always heeded the Damo Suzuki advice by not losing it.
― calzino, Thursday, 16 April 2020 19:52 (four years ago) link
Am I the only person who thinks that the young @lukeakehurst bears a resemblance to Leon Trotsky? pic.twitter.com/MP0vmuzuAl— Diane Abbott MP (@HackneyAbbott) April 16, 2020
― calzino, Thursday, 16 April 2020 19:53 (four years ago) link
She haaaaaaates him, LOL.
― santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 16 April 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link
The scene from Westminster bridge #ClapForCarers pic.twitter.com/JpzM0YBjgH— Damir Rafi (@d_rafi1) April 16, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 April 2020 06:40 (four years ago) link
get social distancing ya xunts
― megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Friday, 17 April 2020 06:48 (four years ago) link
Wot no spikes?(heads on)Yet?
― Stevolende, Friday, 17 April 2020 07:09 (four years ago) link
let's help the NHS Rona by crowding together on a bridge *slow claps*
― calzino, Friday, 17 April 2020 07:15 (four years ago) link
Large groups of police / ambulance / fire brigade ppl gathering at landmarks to listen to the clapping definitely seems to be a thing across the country, which doesn't appear enormously sensible.
― ShariVari, Friday, 17 April 2020 07:19 (four years ago) link
how long until clapping for carers is infected by the same sort of bullshit that surrounds poppy nazism.
"why were you not clapping citizen?!"
― megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Friday, 17 April 2020 07:35 (four years ago) link
Shocked and slightly terrified that Bobby Pesto seems to be doing some actual journalism.
I’ve been sent the criteria issued to doctors for those #covid19 patients who are allowed to be transferred from hospitals to the emergency Nightingale ones that have been set up all over the UK to increase intensive care capacity. And what they show is that...— Robert Peston (@Peston) April 16, 2020
Short version - the makeshift mega-hospitals, like the one at the Excel centre, aren't taking patients most seriously at risk and the NHS trusts thinking about sending COVID patients there also have to provide equipment and medical staff to look after them. The Excel centre apparently has 19 patients.
― ShariVari, Friday, 17 April 2020 08:02 (four years ago) link
the complaint from doctors right from the start is that the nightingales weren’t going to have adequate staffing because, well, the nhs isn’t adequately staffed but nice to see pesto pretending to do some journalism because A Secret Source sent him a memo and he gets to feel all woodward and bernstein
― He is married to Brogmus, Linda. (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 April 2020 08:07 (four years ago) link
Piers and now Pesto - this government must be in real trouble..
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 April 2020 08:07 (four years ago) link
I’m not sure the Nightingale story is what is being suggested - they don’t have the equipment for people likely to have serious complications/be most at risk, so those people should be prioritised in real hospitals?
― gyac, Friday, 17 April 2020 08:56 (four years ago) link
👏👏👏
Ten nurses suspended for refusing to work without N95 masks https://t.co/WfOZevqldu— The Guardian (@guardian) April 17, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 April 2020 08:57 (four years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/30/nightingale-hospital-in-london-to-treat-less-critical-covid-19-cases
This has been the whole plan all along?
― Matt DC, Friday, 17 April 2020 09:09 (four years ago) link
With apologies to Bobby P I think we might have to withdraw those 'actual journalism' props.
― Matt DC, Friday, 17 April 2020 09:10 (four years ago) link
Also hospital trusts have fewer non-covid cases at the moment so if they need free beds for people less serious or recovering, they likely have them without having to send the patient and their staff to a Nightingale.
― gyac, Friday, 17 April 2020 09:11 (four years ago) link
Story about nurses being suspended is from California, what's it doing here?
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Friday, 17 April 2020 09:15 (four years ago) link
I didn't see.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 April 2020 09:47 (four years ago) link
This is my interview commenting on the leaked Labour Party report on antisemitism. https://t.co/t1Wf7KVcUx— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) April 17, 2020
― gyac, Friday, 17 April 2020 10:00 (four years ago) link
The bit about it being designed for less serious patients, yes. I am not sure it was reported at the time that NHS trusts would have to send their own staff to look after any patients.
― ShariVari, Friday, 17 April 2020 11:06 (four years ago) link
The things I do, so that you don’t have to do them....This isn’t so interesting but it is a good guide to responses to that Labour report. The main one is the most tiresome weapon in the hack’s arsenal: noisily pretending not to understand things that you do in fact understand... pic.twitter.com/grcsaBX21j— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) April 17, 2020
― gyac, Friday, 17 April 2020 11:29 (four years ago) link
Also, the JLM response to the report leak was....not good.
Responding to #LabourReport, it’s much more important to focus on why it seems that holocaust deniers weren’t acted against and so many complaints were simply ignored in 2016-2018 than on suspending local party branches for talking about the report, no?— James Schneider (@schneiderhome) April 17, 2020
― gyac, Friday, 17 April 2020 11:36 (four years ago) link
over 7 billion quietly doled out to big business https://positivemoney.org/2020/04/bank-of-england-provides-7-5-billion-in-big-business-bailouts-all-hidden-from-public-view/
― ogmor, Friday, 17 April 2020 11:37 (four years ago) link
In the midst of a pandemic, overcrowding and lack of hygiene are threats to life for everyone.How Mears Group and the Home Office are putting asylum tenants' and residents' lives in danger.Thread>>> pic.twitter.com/Uqr1sRzntx— SYMAAG (@SYMAAG) April 15, 2020
― ogmor, Friday, 17 April 2020 11:50 (four years ago) link
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/labour-leaks-report-antisemitism-racism-diane-abbott-butler-a9468521.html
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 April 2020 13:20 (four years ago) link
In other news Starmer said earlier that he didn't enjoy having to "sell himself to the membership".
― calzino, Friday, 17 April 2020 13:35 (four years ago) link