I just finished book #10 of Robert Jordan's stupid series.

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other option is to ask my mom to look in the closet of my old bedroom for my old copy, but that might just make her confused and a little sad.

ian, Friday, 26 June 2009 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I am pretty sure I picked up the first book because I saw it on the shelf in the library and thought "oh hey, a huge fantasy book; I need something to read for the next two weeks".

get money fuck witches (HI DERE), Friday, 26 June 2009 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link

that is how i began reading the fantastical works of Mr. Raymond E. Feist.

ian, Friday, 26 June 2009 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

same as that. didn't fancy much else on the limited fantasy shelf of our local book store, which is always a factor.

darraghmac@nebbmail.com (darraghmac), Friday, 26 June 2009 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link

there was one (short) aisle of sf/fantasy in the local library, and i swear i must have spent dozens of hours in my adolescence staring at those books. it's a shame i wasn't taller, i must have missed out on so much ;_;

ian, Friday, 26 June 2009 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh man, we had an entire section! Looking back, I can't believe how lucky I was re: the libraries my mom worked in.

get money fuck witches (HI DERE), Friday, 26 June 2009 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

We had a pretty big section in ours as well. It's how I ended up reading Avram Davidson, which I'll be forever grateful for.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 June 2009 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link

to be fair there was a lot more stuff at the library a town over, but i couldn't ride my bike there.

ian, Friday, 26 June 2009 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link

even as a pre-teen i knew to avoid L Ron Hubbard though. I don't know how I managed that. I think I looked at those warlord of space books or whatever and just kind of knew they were crappy?

ian, Friday, 26 June 2009 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link

but they ere big, and there were a lot of them.

ian, Friday, 26 June 2009 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link

read the first one aged about 13, and it was just embarrassing

darraghmac@nebbmail.com (darraghmac), Friday, 26 June 2009 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Unfortunately I read 8 of the Mission Earth L. Ron books. Thanks limited small town library! But this thread has made me decided to re-read RJ again after finishing Ulysses.

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 26 June 2009 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

holy shit the audiobook eye of the world is 25 CDs long??!?

ian, Friday, 26 June 2009 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I read 1 L. Ron book...? I ended up being more of a Heinlein whore anyway; I don't think I ever even read 2001: A Space Odyssey

get money fuck witches (HI DERE), Friday, 26 June 2009 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link

i read not one but THREE books by mercedes lackey. can't believe it.

ian, Friday, 26 June 2009 15:59 (fifteen years ago) link

i think my parents lost faith in my manliness when i stopped reading books with spaceships on 'em and switched to elves & fanciful beasts.

ian, Friday, 26 June 2009 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link

i read not one but THREE books by mercedes lackey. can't believe it.

hahahahaha you are not alone

CURSE YOU, SWORD AND SORCERESS ANTHOLOGIES

get money fuck witches (HI DERE), Friday, 26 June 2009 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean, we could give you a pass for Diana Paxson, Mercedes Lackey or Jennifer Robeson, but ALL THREE?

(altho looking those back up makes me realize I have actually read Charles DeLint! hmm)

get money fuck witches (HI DERE), Friday, 26 June 2009 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link

holy shit the audiobook eye of the world is 25 CDs long??!?

― ian,

It's like 27 hours or something. Took nearly two weeks of gym time and chores to make it through.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 26 June 2009 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link

okay, i bought a paperback of the eye of the world.
if i have as much fun with this as i hope, i might have to begin a blog. or else you will all have to see this thread on new arrivals everyday.

happy coincidence: guy on the street selling records outside the bookstore, got a clean copy of Joy Division's "Closer" and also Fleetwood Macs "Pious Bird of Good Omen" so flipping those will pay for the cost of the book & then some.

ian, Friday, 26 June 2009 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

the paperback editions of these are so flimsy ime

this crazy chick on another forum with like a talmudic knowledge of the series used many quotes and examples to convince she had worked how the series would end and now i am bummed a little.

Lamp, Friday, 26 June 2009 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link

You wouldn't be on the Steven Erikson forum, would you?

Stone Monkey, Friday, 26 June 2009 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link

don't trust anything u read on the innerne what are you 12?

ian, Friday, 26 June 2009 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link

ha yah stone monkey i post there sometimes when i am not banned :/

nah man 4 real this chick knows the wheel of time liked she lived it like she blogged it like she died and was reborn tied to it

Lamp, Friday, 26 June 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

LOL She is a little... Full on...

Stone Monkey, Friday, 26 June 2009 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

the wheel turns and ages come and sad nerds write fanfic..

ian, Friday, 26 June 2009 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Most of the fanfic writing nerds seem happy enough in their little worlds of slash. I do wonder what the slashers amke of RJ; he pretty much does their work for them.

Stone Monkey, Friday, 26 June 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Did any of you read that prequel book? I've refused to so far.

get money fuck witches (HI DERE), Friday, 26 June 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

new spring is pretty good but i am like non-fanfic world's biggest moiraine stan so

waaiiiittttt what (Lamp), Friday, 26 June 2009 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

A lot of it seems to be along the lines of: And then they did lez up. At that point, I think, RJ's other fantasies kicked in.

Stone Monkey, Friday, 26 June 2009 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Hah yeah for some reason one of the only things I remember about the WoT is this one throwaway scene where a dark Aes Sedai or darkfriend or whatever is torturing a Warder by making him feel uncountable pleasure. I guess this is what happens when you read these books at the age of 12. Maybe I should just read slash to tide myself over until all three final volumes come out.

The 400 LOLs (dyao), Saturday, 27 June 2009 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link

so im halfway through book 11, after abandoning the series right after 10 came out. and im really enjoying it, and fully invested in the absurdity of it all. and actually feeling kinda sad jordan died and didnt get to finish it.

and a part of me fantasizes about a college gender studies course on these books and their incredibly fucked up yet kinda fascinating gender politics.

ryan, Friday, 3 July 2009 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I just finished book 5 and I have to take a break from this series. Book 5 was really, really, extra bad. Lots of pointless traveling - oh look, Cirque de Nynaeve! - messy, poorly organized fight sequence at the end (switching viewpoints and covering the same thing from multiple sides is a bad idea). Easily the worst book thus far.

I found it really discouraging - do I really want to slog through more mediocrity to get to the last couple of good books? Can the payoff be worth it? I'm on the fence; might just pick up the Steven Erikson books instead.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 3 July 2009 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I did buy myself a new copy of the eye of the world, and i am reading it, and it's worse than i remember it being, in terms of the writing anyway. also rand is such a pussy wtf i hate myself for ever thinking he was cool.

ian, Friday, 3 July 2009 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link

The Erikson ones have a pretty hard learning curve. He deliberately makes no effort to explain anything at all in the first book and you either sink or swim. The second one is a work of genius, though.

Stone Monkey, Friday, 3 July 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link

The Erikson's sound right up my alley. I like books that throw me in the deep end.

Jordan assumes that each book is a new wading pool and you never get more than waist high.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 3 July 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

the wikipedia article on erikson suggests that the first novel in his series was orig written as a stand-alone; does this mean i can read it with some level of satisfaction without feeling obligated to read more? i don't know why i'm asking if i've committed myself to this robert jordan re-read for the next few months butttttt

ian, Friday, 3 July 2009 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link

You can, but the second one is much better. The quality becomes... quite variable after that.His prose gets a bit purple from time to time too. And I say that as a long time member of his fan forum...

Stone Monkey, Friday, 3 July 2009 23:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I couldn't get through the first Erikson. There was a surfeit of crazy ideas, but nothing compelling to hold them together. Read Mieville instead.

chap, Friday, 3 July 2009 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I've read all the Mieville stuff. Need something new.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 3 July 2009 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I quite enjoyed Alan Campbell's Scar Night. Haven't read the sequel yet though.

chap, Friday, 3 July 2009 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link

the wikipedia article on erikson suggests that the first novel in his series was orig written as a stand-alone; does this mean i can read it with some level of satisfaction without feeling obligated to read more?

yeah first 5 books are independent after that it loses the pick em up in any order aspect - also the last couple were terrible on a lvl jordan couldnt even have contemplated

with jordan idk - i mean the writings pretty clumsy altho book 2 in particular was kind of clever and ~deep~ in a way i wasnt expecting but the world and its mysteries get really engaging its pretty much the sole reason that i think the series holds up its v. livable

you know what, fuck you (Lamp), Saturday, 4 July 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link

been going full on nerd lately and skimming some of the older books and trying to remember some stuff with the help of the internet. lots of minor yet really cool stuff i had forgotten. (like Slayer, especially.)

I kinda wonder what the final word on this series will be. it's been mentioned a lot already but there is something pretty cool about the overall structure, starting out with basically a handful of characters and following their every move and then gradually pulling out to a very, very long shot that almost literally contains the entire fictional world, every moving part--it's sorta breathtaking and i wonder if once the entire thing is finished it will seems more satisfying. part of the fun of tolkien was always the sense that despite the main action there was an almost infinite depth of detail going on behind it, in other places or historically. Jordan seems to have been actually WRITING that out rather than suggest it. and that rather than being about a world in decline as in LOTR, Jordan seems to be writing the reverse of that, suggesting that the world was withering before the events of the first novel and that now it's experiencing a kind of rebirth.

the level of detail was especially brought home to me when i read that from the Eye of the World to Knife of Dreams the story takes place over about 2-3 years. i could have sworn it was at least 10!

and as i said above, the meta-gender theorizing that could be done about these novels would be really interesting, in that the "Fall" in the case of this universe seems to be the very creation or "break" between the genders. (admittedly this would be way more cool if every man and and every woman didnt act pretty much exactly the same according to their gender, tho there does seem to be some glimmers in the latest that maybe there's more to this, that it's a symptom of a larger problem/rift between the genders. that's prob way too generous a reading tho.)

ryan, Saturday, 11 July 2009 23:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm kind of struggling through my re-read here. It's past page 250, and Rand is still all "It was just like in the stories omgwtfllol!!!*" and it is kind of bizarre and cringe-worthy. i also find myself skipping whole pages/scenes--thom telling some story in a tavern, moiraine explaining something about the history of the white tower. otoh, there are cool things i'm noticing, but special attention paid to mat being hooked with a trolloc's noose. there also seem to have been mentions of the seanchan already (via some tale abt artur hawkwing[lol]), but who's to say how much of that was planned or simply riffed upon.

ian, Sunday, 12 July 2009 05:23 (fourteen years ago) link

btw, for anyone who is interested in catching up before the next book this site is pretty comprehensive: http://encyclopaedia-wot.org/

ryan, Monday, 13 July 2009 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I was pretty thrilled to discover after returning home that my hodgepodge collection sourced from used bookshops all over does include The Eye of the World.

After first getting into this series, I remember holding every small figurine I ever came across in antique and curio shops and wondering if it was secretly an angreal. Remembering this fills me with shame and self-loathing.

I hurt your arm and now I want to dress your arm, please (dyao), Monday, 13 July 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

if it makes u feel any better i used to pretend flashlights were lightsabers.

ian, Monday, 13 July 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

there are cool things i'm noticing, but special attention paid to mat being hooked with a trolloc's noose. there also seem to have been mentions of the seanchan already (via some tale abt artur hawkwing[lol]), but who's to say how much of that was planned or simply riffed upon.

this was my favorite part about rereading it all these little uncertain moments that seemed preplanned & so real like true world intricate and deep such an unexpected and vicarious pleasure like meeting someone u havent seen in a long time and finding out they read a book u recommended to them and enjoyed it thoroughly. im sad u arent really into it although i can see y jordan's sentences are broad and aimlessly filled with the same extraneous detail like fiber optic cables made of fashion updates/'/

eye of the world is kind of boring all those split and meet up play for your supper scenes they arent that interesting except for the seeds of rand's eating disorder and the fact that everyone of those darkfriends makes an appearance later in the series like ghosts or disliked cousins but there are a lot of cool things too like the man with the face of flames sidling down the hallways of our heroes dreams killing rats and twining them with thorns...

♥/b ~~~ :O + x_X + :-@ + ;_; + :-/ + (~,~) + (:| = :^) (Lamp), Monday, 13 July 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

holy fucking shit NOVEMBER!!!

don't try to church it up (nickalicious), Sunday, 2 August 2009 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link


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