love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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Here is the original photo with it's embedded metadata. Before we put it on our newswire we verified the camera date, interviewed the photographer and cross checked with other pictures taken around the same time. While we don't get everything right we're not dishonest pic.twitter.com/iL4VP3bZVS

— Jon Mills (@jonmillsphoto) April 27, 2020

there's an actual agency putting themselves on the line here, it's not the Express claiming it's real.

stet, Monday, 27 April 2020 10:52 (four years ago) link

xxxp sure, but the editing of it to fake a newspaper headline is still a big step in every way other than technically, right?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 April 2020 10:55 (four years ago) link

Matt - sure, but that only adds to the tensions with (perceived) piss-takers - see the vein of pure (and concentrated) anger from people who try their hardest, and are aware of and uncomfortable with the risks they do take to get by, when they see idiots on Westminster Bridge.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 April 2020 11:03 (four years ago) link

Sad that Ian Austin somehow managed to get on this call

I was on a zoom call today with amazing Labour activists and some creep dressed in camouflage waving a gun and a knife joined the call. Very frightening so I don’t wanna hear how “the left is a bad as the right” hot takes. Fascists/alt-right are a VERY real and violent threat.

— Chardine Taylor Stone (@misschazmatazz) April 26, 2020

nashwan, Monday, 27 April 2020 11:33 (four years ago) link

is there not a law in Germany that prevents landlords increasing rent by a specific percentage, ie its capped at 5% or something similar?

I think it might vary by region but yes, it's usually capped. I think the Omar plan goes about this the right way - offering federal funds to compensate landlords in the short term but only on the basis that they commit to a long list of tenants' rights, including some rent controls, for X number of years after.

ShariVari, Monday, 27 April 2020 11:34 (four years ago) link

Screener of Lammy's tweet

@DavidLammy do you want to apologise for this now deleted tweet cheering on forced labour in prisons? pic.twitter.com/upl2OcSr4C

— stephen (@neufunkaum) April 27, 2020

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Monday, 27 April 2020 12:52 (four years ago) link

It was so very benign of him to express concerns about the availability of PPE for the prison wardens and not the subhuman slave labourers though!

calzino, Monday, 27 April 2020 13:04 (four years ago) link

There used to be this screw that lived accross the road from me. He was a violent domestic abuser who got sacked for violent misconduct. His ex partner showed me some of the transcripts from the internal enquiry into an incident of serious abh he committed against a prisoner. He was basically a violent bully who was too thick to join the cops.

calzino, Monday, 27 April 2020 13:23 (four years ago) link

My prime minister

We asked @JeremyCorbyn about Coronavirus, he didn’t hold back 🔥

Watch full film: https://t.co/7iPJ1FxdXV pic.twitter.com/hNcMC861jH

— Double Down News (@DoubleDownNews) April 27, 2020

gyac, Monday, 27 April 2020 14:02 (four years ago) link

some quite forensic criticisms of the multiple failings of this incompetent govt there.

calzino, Monday, 27 April 2020 14:14 (four years ago) link

lol I thought Kay Burley was being sarcastic with that "heavy is the crown" comment, what a prize chump.

calzino, Monday, 27 April 2020 14:18 (four years ago) link

good stuff from the absolute boy there

He is married to Brogmus, Linda. (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 27 April 2020 14:22 (four years ago) link

a little bit on the salty side for a brand new convert to "polite and respectful discourse" as myself, he could at least add the caveat that they are completely fucking it up under very difficult circumstances!

calzino, Monday, 27 April 2020 14:27 (four years ago) link

10% of all global C-19 deaths on this tiny island, that is a phenomenal achievement tbf. They said Global Britain could punch above it's weight.

calzino, Monday, 27 April 2020 14:31 (four years ago) link

totally brilliant response from @MayaGoodfellow https://t.co/kQiltO1vBu

— Sukhwant Dhaliwal (@SukwantDhaliwal) April 27, 2020

quite

calzino, Monday, 27 April 2020 14:41 (four years ago) link

The plot thickens…

The photo is from last summer , there’s a wider shot used in the daily mail and the ice cream being eaten by the young lad was in a form we haven’t done this year .

— Marrocco's Italian (@marroccoshove) April 27, 2020

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 27 April 2020 15:07 (four years ago) link

that photography agency lying out of their arses!

calzino, Monday, 27 April 2020 15:12 (four years ago) link

Wait a minute...there's no ice cream place called "Marrocco's" in Hove!!

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 27 April 2020 15:17 (four years ago) link

hang on a minute, due to a bizarre localised dimensional anomaly all ice cream in hove was wiped out in summer '19

calzino, Monday, 27 April 2020 15:23 (four years ago) link

hove is made up

mark s, Monday, 27 April 2020 15:54 (four years ago) link

xp same time as white dog shit, HMMMMM

gyac, Monday, 27 April 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link

And thickens!

They're selling ice cream tubs like that right now pic.twitter.com/UeT1Bnohhm

— Jon Mills (@jonmillsphoto) April 27, 2020

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 April 2020 16:01 (four years ago) link

Jesus Christ

gyac, Monday, 27 April 2020 16:03 (four years ago) link

https://comps.canstockphoto.com/close-up-of-2019-diary-with-pen-on-stock-photo_csp63187322.jpg

ah but look at this detail

calzino, Monday, 27 April 2020 16:09 (four years ago) link

I'm pretty certain I've been to Marrocco's, when we met a friend in town she took us out for a walk to there because the icecream is that good.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 April 2020 16:12 (four years ago) link

Either way, we can agree that this means probably more than it reasonably should to people on both sides?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 April 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link

No way, this has been the most exciting story of the whole outbreak

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 April 2020 16:19 (four years ago) link

Hm hold fire folks it's sounding like the guy who had the info that Marrocco's was a false flag was himself a false flag

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 27 April 2020 16:20 (four years ago) link

One day David Hare is gonna make a really shitty mini-series out of this story

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 April 2020 16:22 (four years ago) link

given that housing is going to be a major dividing issue at the next election.


Interested why you think this will be the case Matt. Whenever its looked like it could become an issue leading up to previous elections it's always ended up being stuffed in the bottom drawer while the media steers the debate away.

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Monday, 27 April 2020 16:30 (four years ago) link

Second ice cream salesman on the grassy Knoll?

Matt DC, Monday, 27 April 2020 16:31 (four years ago) link

Ha I should probably catch up on all messages first... Just saw the next post

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Monday, 27 April 2020 16:31 (four years ago) link

Ice cream guy didn't claim they didn't sell those tubs, he said "in that form" possibly meaning the split flavour you can see in the wider shot of the boy 🤔

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Monday, 27 April 2020 16:34 (four years ago) link

tbf the marrocco tweet said nothing about tubs, just that the ice cream was in a “form” they aren’t doing this year... 🤔

Microbes oft teem (wins), Monday, 27 April 2020 16:34 (four years ago) link

lmao xp

Microbes oft teem (wins), Monday, 27 April 2020 16:34 (four years ago) link

That’s what you call... a double scoop

Microbes oft teem (wins), Monday, 27 April 2020 16:35 (four years ago) link

Regardless of whether its a media issue or not, housing has been one of the main issues buoying the Labour vote in metropolitan areas since 2015. Starmer's policies may change that but no one knows what his policies are going to be yet.

Also looking at it from the other angle there is virtually guaranteed to be a major house price crash in the next year or so and voters tend to punish a sitting government after that happens.

Matt DC, Monday, 27 April 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link

jon mills is no straight talking mr whippy lover + is a photographer so is possibly quite invested in preserving the integrity of that 2019 pic they sold to the express!

calzino, Monday, 27 April 2020 16:39 (four years ago) link

That’s what you call... a double scoop


Absolutely hating myself for laughing at this irl

gyac, Monday, 27 April 2020 17:23 (four years ago) link

there should be journalism school classes about that thread my god it's astounding

stet, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:39 (four years ago) link

Oh no

So Matt is now going to be publishing a daily email where he *explains* the cartoons. pic.twitter.com/CwIWjxVEQ1

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) April 27, 2020

gyac, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 06:47 (four years ago) link

a cock and balls story

He is married to Brogmus, Linda. (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 06:56 (four years ago) link

bg nails it again

nashwan, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 08:36 (four years ago) link

He looks like one of his own cartoons

fetter, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 08:43 (four years ago) link

Holy shit. According to #Panorama, the government counted EACH glove rather than each pair and counted paper towels as PPE given to hospitals, to inflate the numbers.

— Laleh Khalili (@LalehKhalili) April 28, 2020

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 09:01 (four years ago) link

Today is the ten year anniversary of Brown calling that woman a bigot. So depressing to think how much the last decade has been shaped by his refusal to stand by that assessment.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 09:23 (four years ago) link

10 years since Brown called Gillian Duffy a "bigoted woman". I wrote this about it in HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT 👇
What's interesting isn't 'Brown was right' but that he said it behind closed doors while reproducing anti-migration messages. Anti-migration views aren't born in a vacuum pic.twitter.com/nPo269YtvN

— Maya Goodfellow (@MayaGoodfellow) April 28, 2020

Like so many politicians and journalists before him and countless who would come after him, it was as if he believed people's views to be entirely unconnected to the the political climate around them they has helped create.

Maya Goodfellow nailed it.

calzino, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 09:34 (four years ago) link

We didn't just get to where we are with this government and migration because Brown was criticised for calling Gillian Duffy a bigot.

We got here, in part, because of the ways New Labour - and Brown - reproduced anti-migration politics and helped entrench anti-migration views

— Maya Goodfellow (@MayaGoodfellow) April 28, 2020

calzino, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 09:35 (four years ago) link

Between 2005 and 2009 98% of all asylum seekers fleeing persecution because of their sexuality were refused refuge and extradited back to their home countries to face persecution https://t.co/QvqzMZeir1

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) April 22, 2020

nashwan, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 10:02 (four years ago) link

Given what we now know about some of the unelected people advising Brown, and later Miliband, it's entirely likely they were instrumental in pushing these messages. It's obvious from that recording that Brown didn't really believe this shit but he went with what he thought the mob were demanding, and who was giving him that information?

There's quite a telling bit in, I think, Alistair Campbell's diaries from 1997 where Major writes to him and says that he and Paddy Ashdown had agreed not to go hard on immigration as an election issue and requesting that Blair do the same. And it wasn't an election issue at all 1997. William Hague in opposition *did* go hard on it, backed by the Mail, the Sun etc which pushed Labour to start parroting harsher and harsher rhetoric. The more Labour did it, the more it gave license for IDS and Howard to push further the right, and we ended up where we ended up.

The stupid thing is that New Labour derived no real benefit from all this, because for all the rhetoric of good vs bad migrants, they were also significantly expanding immigration, particularly from new EU states, and that's what the gammons remember, not the untold suffering that thousands of migrants experienced, and continue to experience, in their name.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 10:34 (four years ago) link


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