love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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he's been plumbing deeper depths than Cousteau in 2020. From thinking aloud about why zero contracts are mostly bad for him when the rona is in town to unquestioningly parroting Herd Immunity and thinking aloud whether furloughing people rather than forcing them to die at work might be removing the incentive to work.

calzino, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 11:56 (four years ago) link

Is this sort of always-on credulity an editorial guideline or something? I remember him covering the financial crisis pretty well when he was Economics Editor at the BBC so maybe he's just a shit political journalist, or maybe he's just terrible at Twitter, or he doesn't even consider what he does journalism any more? Even Marr isn't this bad.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 12:31 (four years ago) link

I can recall him doing a half reasonable, well compared to the BBC, job of holding the Maybot to account on one occasion during election 17. Not seen much since then to justify having Journalist on his passport.

calzino, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 13:02 (four years ago) link

Didn’t he cause a bank run when he was doing economics?!

gyac, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 13:02 (four years ago) link

That always felt like shoot-the-messenger stuff to me, he probably knew that a bank run would ensue but you can't just not report that a major high street bank is on the verge of collapse.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 13:09 (four years ago) link

the daniel davies line on the bank-run* is that mervyn king was primarily responsible but the way peston handled it absolutely did not help, and thinks he wasn't good as an economics journalist

*(also apparently there was an unrelated greek run or near-run)

mark s, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 13:18 (four years ago) link

Davies wrote a short piece on it:

https://medium.com/bull-market/how-do-you-report-on-bank-runs-ee0d7e962b9b

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 13:30 (four years ago) link

didn't realise it was a reporter's job to protect banks

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 13:36 (four years ago) link

I've noticed something in common with France re-opening schools, the drumbeat towards easing lockdown restrictions in the UK, and Republican efforts to ease various lockdowns in the United States. That the 'pressure' to do so is largely - or entirely - coming from 'senior' people in government. Yes there are 30-40 percent of people who when asked will say they want to ease the lockdown, for whatever reason. But not enough to make politicians or their aides jump up and reverse literally the only tool anyone has for slowing the spread of infections and deaths. No the pressure is from above. And I may be going out on a limb here but I reckon most of these senior figures are getting an earful from their buddies who sit on the boards of big firms in various phases of completely flaming out. They don't care that reopening will actually hurt small businesses, who either can't reopen or if they do will face such pitiful demand and onerous restrictions that they might as well not (and who now will be responsible for unemployment $, rent etc and insurance won't cover it). In fact, they might be happy to see those guys gone. Anyway, I just find it astonishing that this dynamic isn't front of mind for reporters and the opposition. Where's this 'pressure' coming from? From the 1 motherfucking percent.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 13:36 (four years ago) link

the pressure certainly won't be coming from people who plan to match their c-19 hawk tough-talk by getting on crowded buses and trains every day. no sirree, they won't be so cavalier with their own precious health and for what for what cause? for an nth of a % improvement on GDP for a month until the death toll starts spiralling out of control again.

calzino, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 14:40 (four years ago) link

That seems correct about France, where I have hopes of a general strike coming on 11 May. The media has portrayed the clash as Macron vs Philippe (the prime minister), with the latter being the président des riches & the latter trying to defend the interests of the people (by following the scientific commission). But I don't trust that portrayal: it's too facile, too much "good cop, bad cop". They can't make us work, and this will be the easiest general strike ever: just don't go back to work! Are they going to enforce anything under these conditions? For students it's easy, since going back is voluntary. For teachers it's not. But if they just don't show up, then kids can't be forced back so that their parents can go make money for the rich.

The plan is to reopen region by region (with a new color system to say how safe you are!), and I reckon the Paris region will be all red, and things won't be that different here. Actually I expect 11 May to be a total failure, and that a general strike won't be needed.

Joey Corona (Euler), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 14:53 (four years ago) link

Ending the lockdown prematurely won't make any significant difference to the economy if people aren't prepared to change their behaviour anyway, and if there's an even bigger second spike, in fact it'll have a worse effect on GDP. Preventing mass unemployment has to be the priority right now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 15:00 (four years ago) link

Glad to see the Labour Party has abandoned Corbyn’s student union politics and become an effective opposition, ready for government by *checks notes* telling everyone to do self care on insta.

This is what voters facing homelessness want. Not rent controls. pic.twitter.com/xm7qa46XBF

— FS (@FDseale) April 29, 2020

☺️

gyac, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 15:08 (four years ago) link

“neoliberalism doesn’t exist”

fuck it (Left), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 15:12 (four years ago) link

"try practising relaxation techniques"

I do that by imagining I'm throwing darts and Sir Smarmer's actual face is the dartboard.

calzino, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 15:15 (four years ago) link

official uk death toll now more than 26k

Boris the Spreader (NickB), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 16:07 (four years ago) link

Yes there are 30-40 percent of people who when asked will say they want to ease the lockdown, for whatever reason.


I don't think it's even as high as that. As recently as the 21st support was polling around 89% for continuing lockdown.

stet, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link

we're all enjoying not having to commute (or share space with our insufferable colleagues) too much

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:12 (four years ago) link

Foresee a concerted Back to Work putsch from the Spectator-Telegraph-Guido axis following the VE Bank Holiday weekend

Piedie Gimbel, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:27 (four years ago) link

media seem to have been gently presaging the return to work over the last couple of weeks, i've heard very little pushback from journos on the idea that it's coming

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:33 (four years ago) link

anyone else having a fucking nightmare trying to pick up prescriptions? they changed the system & it keeps fucking up, I’m being shunted between places each telling me medication should be at the other place that just sent me I’m losing my mind

fuck it (Left), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:35 (four years ago) link

it was a semi-nightmare last time, i'm phoning for mine tomorrow which is 10 days in advance of when i need it, we'll see how it goes

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link

Oh man there's some peak Dunting right now.

Echobelly are underrated.

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) April 29, 2020

If we're going to call comics graphic novels then we should call literature word books.

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) April 29, 2020

Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link

i mean they kept fucking mine up before the lockdown so

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link

Dunting: High and Low

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link

my wife got somebody else’s medication on Monday. luckily she noticed (!) and she brought it back Tuesday and coincidentally the lady whose it was was standing in the queue next to her.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link

dunting kruger

mark s, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link

i got a phone call a couple of months ago because Boots had given my meds to somebody else by accident and obv they were very embarrassed at potentially outing me as somebody taking antidepressants, not that i cared

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link

fwiw I have been using Pharmacy2u for ages now and they have been fine, I don't have to do anything just click a button on an app and they come through the door a few days later

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link

I will have to go to the chemist in the next couple of days tho cos my cat needs a new inhaler

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link

afaik there is no vetpharmacy2u

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link

anyone else having a fucking nightmare trying to pick up prescriptions? they changed the system & it keeps fucking up, I’m being shunted between places each telling me medication should be at the other place that just sent me I’m losing my mind


How do you do it? Patient access?

gyac, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:22 (four years ago) link

um i think so just doing what i did before all this bs. idk I just called the surgery a while back to make sure they'd send it to the pharmacy but it apparently never happened

fuck it (Left), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:28 (four years ago) link

Ah. Can I suggest you get them to set you up on patient access? It’s how I order my prescriptions and the prescriptions all go to/from the NHS spine and you can specify where it gets sent, how much you want to order.

gyac, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link

When I got a CAHMs nurse a couple of years back one of the best things she did was hook us up with a local prescription delivery service who are very good and when there has been any fuck ups it hasn't been from their end.

calzino, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:52 (four years ago) link

Dunt - nominative rhyming slang determinism

calzino, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:58 (four years ago) link

“Equally I’m going to disagree with him that it is far too early to make international comparisons. If they are to be done, they should be on a per capita basis. We are already seeing there are different ways that deaths are measured not just in the UK, but across Europe and across the world.

what did they start/stop counting care home deaths to their tally in Italy, Spain and France as well and then after a couple of weeks say ah.. add 'em on, we've fucked it anyway! It sounds like Starmer was a bit more forensic today he used "truly dreadful" as a criticism of the govt response to c-19.

calzino, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 22:05 (four years ago) link

misquoting Starmer there - he was calling the death toll truly dreadful

calzino, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 22:15 (four years ago) link

John Crace seems to think my MP is doing a fab job of softly softly, catchy flunky at not-PMQs. I didn’t watch because I was out for a walk and didn’t want to hear anyone’s rote baby congratulations.

santa clause four (suzy), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 22:23 (four years ago) link

"Sub Dom hankers for Daddy"

is this the fucking graun or xhamster!

calzino, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 22:32 (four years ago) link

A bead of sweat formed on Raab’s forehead.

enough already!

calzino, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 22:35 (four years ago) link

the pressure certainly won't be coming from people who plan to match their c-19 hawk tough-talk by getting on crowded buses and trains every day. no sirree, they won't be so cavalier with their own precious health and for what for what cause? for an nth of a % improvement on GDP for a month until the death toll starts spiralling out of control again.
― calzino, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 15:40 (seven hours ago)

Absolutely

The Rampaging Goats of Llandudno (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 22:41 (four years ago) link

hey look we have a judiciary: the supreme court has 'struck out' govt legislation from 2016 that sought to ban publicly owned bodies from conducting boycotts

The rule stated that councils must not use their pension policies “to pursue boycotts, divestment and sanctions against foreign nations and UK defense industries.”

But the Palestine Solidarity Campaign challenged the government, and in 2017 the High Court ruled in its favor.

That decision was overturned in 2018 by the Court of Appeal but has now been upheld by the Supreme Court.

love the way they sneak the arms industry in there

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 22:41 (four years ago) link

grim lol, does seem somewhat tacked on!

calzino, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 22:58 (four years ago) link

tbh John Crace has always looked like a prison guard who murders inmates for his own sexually-sadistic gratification

— Rosewood Shoehorn (@apiarism) April 29, 2020

calzino, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 23:28 (four years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/apr/29/jd-wetherspoon-plans-to-reopen-pubs-in-june

The chain expected like-for-like sales to be 10% lower during the first month after reopening, and then gradually increase by 2% each month, ending up 3% higher than before lockdown.

Tim Martin must really be banking on a steady influx of parched Brits to replace the pub regulars heading onto the ventilators.

all things must pasteurize (Matt #2), Thursday, 30 April 2020 00:41 (four years ago) link

Sub Dom Raabs one out as Sir Keir felches him with forensicity pic.twitter.com/i4olmrvHQq

— TheIainDuncanSmiths (@TheIDSmiths) April 29, 2020

calzino, Thursday, 30 April 2020 09:57 (four years ago) link

Sweaty Raab vs. Forensic Starmer, no contest.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 April 2020 10:02 (four years ago) link

I could totally picture Raab in a Nazi-themed s+m dungeon and he looks quite like Baron Ribbentrop.

calzino, Thursday, 30 April 2020 10:08 (four years ago) link

what in the name of shitting christ is wrong with people?

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 April 2020 10:13 (four years ago) link


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