Besides the message being "Pogroms are good" I don't know why Starmer is doing this. It's not going to shift Hindus that vote Tory. Modi doesn't give a shit, and if anything it alienates Muslim communities that turn out for Labour, or Hindus that hate Modi.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 April 2020 11:59 (four years ago) link
the main way ppl seem to defend this kind of shit is to imply that to care about it is something inherently childish and unserious (see also wrt blair's dealings with countless other monsters), and that the only ppl who care about it are (presumed white) students (see also Israel/Palestine). it would be less infuriating if they would just be honest about their horrible views
― fuck it (Left), Thursday, 30 April 2020 12:10 (four years ago) link
Lol he hasn’t a clue
NEW: Labour leader Keir Starmer is set to have some "gritty" conversations in a bid to win the trust of the electorate in a series of public 'call Keir' Zoom meetings – catch up on the latest with @elliot_chappell's morning briefing here: https://t.co/MBmScAWSGo— LabourList (@LabourList) April 30, 2020
― gyac, Thursday, 30 April 2020 12:17 (four years ago) link
“adult conversation” "his carefully maintained position of constructive opposition." “opposition for opposition’s sake”
let's fucking play melt bingo again and again and again..
― calzino, Thursday, 30 April 2020 12:19 (four years ago) link
lovely four-minute story on captain tom moore’s 100th birthday on the bbc lunchtime bulletin there, surprised to see it followed by an excoriating broadside from a healthcare union representative pointing out that torturing the elderly to support the nhs is not a sustainable funding model
― julian sprinkles (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 April 2020 12:21 (four years ago) link
nah sike it was a total exercise in supine bootlicking
― julian sprinkles (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 April 2020 12:22 (four years ago) link
Oh man that Zoom thing is not going to end well. Let someone else be the guinea pig for that first.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 April 2020 12:22 (four years ago) link
can i be arrested for showing keir starmer my arsehole on zoom y/n
― julian sprinkles (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 April 2020 12:23 (four years ago) link
It's going to be like in the early days of Twitter when the Tory Party Conference decided to do something like display everything with a hashtag on one of their big screens without thinking through the consequences.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 April 2020 12:23 (four years ago) link
he should conduct the Zoom meeting looking like this imo
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article21788031.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200b/5_Screen-Shot-2020-03-31-at-160109.jpg
― Number None, Thursday, 30 April 2020 12:25 (four years ago) link
Starmer obv never saw the live Matt Bianco phone in on Saturday Superstore
― calzino, Thursday, 30 April 2020 12:26 (four years ago) link
oh good now an in-depth exploration of tom moore’s ww2 experiences on the bbc news channelwe can’t get enough fucking greatest generation porn even in the middle of a catastrophic government response to a pandemic
― julian sprinkles (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 April 2020 12:30 (four years ago) link
"torturing the elderly to support the nhs is not a sustainable funding model"
come on ... I want to see a 144 year old mummified corpse of a Boer war veteran doing a 7k marathon carrying Kitchener's corpse while some Tiger Moths do a flyover next.
― calzino, Thursday, 30 April 2020 12:30 (four years ago) link
wait it’s not even the news channel it’s the fucking bbc1 news show, good thing there’s nothing else happening they could be covering
― julian sprinkles (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 April 2020 12:32 (four years ago) link
They'll just run the zoom call like they did the party one with no public chat just the ability to send questions through to someone else who will filter
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Thursday, 30 April 2020 12:35 (four years ago) link
The India thing is insanely grim
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Thursday, 30 April 2020 12:36 (four years ago) link
We’re going to have an opportunity to see how far right-wing smear campaigns have affected concrete foreign policy positions if the West Bank is annexed in July.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:15 (four years ago) link
Regarding what his expert support entails, Phillips said the govt will be using his company’s 'Origins' software, which tracks people's ethnicity by their names. They'll use it to help compile Covid-19 data on disproportionate BAME deaths. https://t.co/YWb5hfwasL— Nadine White (@Nadine_Writes) April 25, 2020
This seems weird, idk.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:27 (four years ago) link
Mr Phillips and his colleagues believe their ethnicity tracking is unique in its method, size and ambition. Software developed by Richard Webber, a visiting professor at Newcastle University, draws on a database of 1.2bn individual records globally. It uses 2.5m family names and 800,000 first names to build algorithms that he says can link names to an individual’s ethnic or cultural origin from around the world with more than 95 per cent accuracy. The results are cross-checked against publicly available sources such as LinkedIn profiles and companies' annual reports.“[The algorithm] can even show what might be called social integration — the likelihood of [people of ethnic-minority heritage] using Anglo-Saxon first names,” says Mr Phillips.
Mr Phillips and his colleagues believe their ethnicity tracking is unique in its method, size and ambition. Software developed by Richard Webber, a visiting professor at Newcastle University, draws on a database of 1.2bn individual records globally. It uses 2.5m family names and 800,000 first names to build algorithms that he says can link names to an individual’s ethnic or cultural origin from around the world with more than 95 per cent accuracy. The results are cross-checked against publicly available sources such as LinkedIn profiles and companies' annual reports.
“[The algorithm] can even show what might be called social integration — the likelihood of [people of ethnic-minority heritage] using Anglo-Saxon first names,” says Mr Phillips.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:30 (four years ago) link
Said Trevor Phillips. Sounds like bull to me.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:34 (four years ago) link
This app should be called Callipr
― Microbes oft teem (wins), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:35 (four years ago) link
there it is
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:37 (four years ago) link
this sounds deeply fucking suss
― julian sprinkles (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:37 (four years ago) link
If a hypothetical child of mine had a Muslim surname and an Irish first name would it be integrated or not? Fucking head-measurers, I swear.
― gyac, Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:42 (four years ago) link
This is going to be an absolute bonanza for highly technical snake-oil salespeople.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:46 (four years ago) link
what measure of integration could exist that wouldn't leave god knows how many white natives registering as unintegrated?
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:47 (four years ago) link
I'm trying to think if any of the Afro-Caribbean people I work with have 'black' names and don't think any do.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:48 (four years ago) link
I mean: Tony, Susan, Marie, James, Sharon, Christina, Chris etc.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link
Oh wait, the company that produces this software is actually Trevor Phillips's? Fuck's sake.
I mean get a load of this Powerpoint presentation and let me know if you're happy with the lives of your family being in these hands:
https://www.local.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/%E2%80%98Why%20Origins%20matters%E2%80%99%20-%20Trevor%20Phillips%20WEB.pdf
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:51 (four years ago) link
He's a despicable trolling cunt.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:52 (four years ago) link
Risible.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:53 (four years ago) link
Shamika, Kiesha, Tara, Shonda, Sabrina, Crystal, Derhonda, Lisa, Felicia, Tonisha, Shavon, Monica, Monique, Christina, Yolonda
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:54 (four years ago) link
Wight Dorke
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:55 (four years ago) link
Jesus Christ that PPT.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:57 (four years ago) link
are we blaming rampant discrimination against ppl w “non english” names on the parents who were too unpatriotic to name their son Steve or w/e
― fuck it (Left), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:58 (four years ago) link
the problem with these people is they just don't want to be integrated
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:01 (four years ago) link
By 2030 every single one of us will be a white English man called Steve having a loud work-related telephone conversation on a train travelling through Leighton Buzzard
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:12 (four years ago) link
ah, the dream
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:13 (four years ago) link
The ‘problem’ he is aiming to solve is people who either ‘incorrectly’ identify themselves as white British or who don’t feel comfortable as identifying as anything else - so software analysis of names is being positioned as a better way to track people’s ethnic origins than their own self-reporting. In theory, that might uncover bias against people who think they have integrated but...it seems bizarre, particularly for this investigation and with that astonishing PowerPoint. I can’t see it as anything other than cronyism.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:15 (four years ago) link
Someone get big John his own twitch account
Making gaming great again https://t.co/d4Q12xvO6P from @redpeppermag— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) April 30, 2020
― gyac, Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:29 (four years ago) link
:O <3
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:30 (four years ago) link
NV can't help reading that emoji as a surprised person with a very large nutsack
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:48 (four years ago) link
that's what i was going for
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:49 (four years ago) link
https://sociorocketnewsen.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/tanukiscrotum.jpg
― mark s, Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:52 (four years ago) link
:O
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:54 (four years ago) link
yr a legend in medieval japan NV
― mark s, Thursday, 30 April 2020 15:04 (four years ago) link
disappointed we've not heard from any of ilx's 6+ starmer fans
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Thursday, 30 April 2020 15:21 (four years ago) link
“disappointed”
― gyac, Thursday, 30 April 2020 16:10 (four years ago) link
Labour appears to have been shuffling away from the Kashmir conference motion for a while, Starmer's "repositioning" seems basically the same as the "clarification" Ian Lavery made before Christmas? Even Corbyn seemed queasy about the wording of the motion, although he has at least acknowledged that human rights abuses are taking place. I wonder if this is less about a calculated trade-off between Muslim and Hindu Labour votes and more Starmer positioning himself for future diplomatic relations with India. Still grim af, mind.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 April 2020 16:25 (four years ago) link
Starmer currently facing calls to suspend Diane Abbott and Bell Ribeiro-Addy for being on the same Zoom call as Jackie Walker.
I get why he wants to triangulate on India, appalling it is, but the idea the Tory-BJP alliance will stop pestering Labour if he does is fanciful.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 30 April 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link