love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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If a hypothetical child of mine had a Muslim surname and an Irish first name would it be integrated or not? Fucking head-measurers, I swear.

gyac, Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:42 (four years ago) link

This is going to be an absolute bonanza for highly technical snake-oil salespeople.

Matt DC, Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:46 (four years ago) link

what measure of integration could exist that wouldn't leave god knows how many white natives registering as unintegrated?

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:47 (four years ago) link

I'm trying to think if any of the Afro-Caribbean people I work with have 'black' names and don't think any do.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:48 (four years ago) link

I mean: Tony, Susan, Marie, James, Sharon, Christina, Chris etc.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link

Oh wait, the company that produces this software is actually Trevor Phillips's? Fuck's sake.

I mean get a load of this Powerpoint presentation and let me know if you're happy with the lives of your family being in these hands:

https://www.local.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/%E2%80%98Why%20Origins%20matters%E2%80%99%20-%20Trevor%20Phillips%20WEB.pdf

Matt DC, Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:51 (four years ago) link

He's a despicable trolling cunt.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:52 (four years ago) link

Risible.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:53 (four years ago) link

Shamika, Kiesha, Tara, Shonda, Sabrina, Crystal, Derhonda, Lisa, Felicia, Tonisha, Shavon, Monica, Monique, Christina, Yolonda

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:54 (four years ago) link

Wight Dorke

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:55 (four years ago) link

Jesus Christ that PPT.

ShariVari, Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:57 (four years ago) link

are we blaming rampant discrimination against ppl w “non english” names on the parents who were too unpatriotic to name their son Steve or w/e

fuck it (Left), Thursday, 30 April 2020 13:58 (four years ago) link

the problem with these people is they just don't want to be integrated

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:01 (four years ago) link

By 2030 every single one of us will be a white English man called Steve having a loud work-related telephone conversation on a train travelling through Leighton Buzzard

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:12 (four years ago) link

ah, the dream

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:13 (four years ago) link

The ‘problem’ he is aiming to solve is people who either ‘incorrectly’ identify themselves as white British or who don’t feel comfortable as identifying as anything else - so software analysis of names is being positioned as a better way to track people’s ethnic origins than their own self-reporting. In theory, that might uncover bias against people who think they have integrated but...it seems bizarre, particularly for this investigation and with that astonishing PowerPoint. I can’t see it as anything other than cronyism.

ShariVari, Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:15 (four years ago) link

Someone get big John his own twitch account

Making gaming great again https://t.co/d4Q12xvO6P from @redpeppermag

— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) April 30, 2020

gyac, Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:29 (four years ago) link

:O <3

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:30 (four years ago) link

NV can't help reading that emoji as a surprised person with a very large nutsack

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:48 (four years ago) link

that's what i was going for

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:49 (four years ago) link

:O

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 April 2020 14:54 (four years ago) link

yr a legend in medieval japan NV

mark s, Thursday, 30 April 2020 15:04 (four years ago) link

disappointed we've not heard from any of ilx's 6+ starmer fans

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Thursday, 30 April 2020 15:21 (four years ago) link

“disappointed”

gyac, Thursday, 30 April 2020 16:10 (four years ago) link

Labour appears to have been shuffling away from the Kashmir conference motion for a while, Starmer's "repositioning" seems basically the same as the "clarification" Ian Lavery made before Christmas? Even Corbyn seemed queasy about the wording of the motion, although he has at least acknowledged that human rights abuses are taking place. I wonder if this is less about a calculated trade-off between Muslim and Hindu Labour votes and more Starmer positioning himself for future diplomatic relations with India. Still grim af, mind.

Matt DC, Thursday, 30 April 2020 16:25 (four years ago) link

Starmer currently facing calls to suspend Diane Abbott and Bell Ribeiro-Addy for being on the same Zoom call as Jackie Walker.

I get why he wants to triangulate on India, appalling it is, but the idea the Tory-BJP alliance will stop pestering Labour if he does is fanciful.

ShariVari, Thursday, 30 April 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link

lol The Sun

Who do people most trust for information on Coronavirus? pic.twitter.com/PLy7t9y7Mh

— Survation. (@Survation) April 30, 2020

nashwan, Thursday, 30 April 2020 16:46 (four years ago) link

The Tory/BoD alliance isn’t going to leave the Labour left alone until a similar reverse ferret happens wrt recognition of Palestinian statehood.

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 30 April 2020 17:56 (four years ago) link

Labour should not 'shy away' from patriotism, says Starmer

🚮

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Thursday, 30 April 2020 18:15 (four years ago) link

Labour should "shy away" from Starmer, say human beings

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 April 2020 18:17 (four years ago) link

we get it labour lost by not being racist enough, just say it coward fuck this weaselly approach

fuck it (Left), Thursday, 30 April 2020 20:03 (four years ago) link

Tony Lloyd talks about getting hammered by covid-19, sounds absolutely horrific but great he’s recovered.

https://theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/30/coronavirus-i-feel-a-tremendous-sense-of-humility-mp-tony-lloyd-on-how-nhs-saved-his-life

gyac, Thursday, 30 April 2020 20:17 (four years ago) link

wow. what a decent sounding guy.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 30 April 2020 20:24 (four years ago) link

that’s a tremendous piece

julian sprinkles (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 April 2020 20:38 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EW4ubFHWsAEZcKs?format=jpg&name=medium

when bovine apolitical numpty Starmer voters start realising they do actually feel quite strongly about conviction politics after all!

calzino, Thursday, 30 April 2020 23:30 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EW4ubFHWsAEZcKs?format=jpg&name=medium

calzino, Thursday, 30 April 2020 23:31 (four years ago) link

If you are Labour shadow chancellor sitting next to George Osborne and are asked whether his cuts to public services affected our pandemic preparedness... don’t change the subject! https://t.co/oizM2qLgkP

— Michael Walker (@michaeljswalker) April 30, 2020

I worry a lot about how lame this lot are going to be on the next wave of austerity, she's obv following *message discipline* there and it's weak as piss.

calzino, Friday, 1 May 2020 00:00 (four years ago) link

I'm not really saying she's done bad there, just that the impetus from above from the rosy cheeked knight of the realm to not point fingers at that piece of shit when it is handed to you on a plate is so weak and they wouldn't spurn such an opportunity to attack if the tables were turned. I know some of you lot have your theories about the correct way to win over the electorate, but that's all just meaningless anyway when you have such a pathetic cunt leading the Labour party.

calzino, Friday, 1 May 2020 00:23 (four years ago) link

They wouldn't spurn the opportunity to attack but they have the full force of the media behind them which would gleefully clap along rather than clutching its pearls and feigning outrage. Its just different for Labour.

Dodds was in John McDonnell's team for several years so I'm inclined to cut her a bit of slack. She's done OK there but you can just see Osborne grinning away to himself next to her. Being charitable you probably want them to be pinning it on the current administration in the public imagination rather than some guy who hasn't been in power for four years - regardless of the truth of it.

The article she wrote for the Guardian the other day was very weak and gave the distinct impression that it had been watered down so much that it was difficult to detect a message in it at all.

Matt DC, Friday, 1 May 2020 07:35 (four years ago) link

I did cut Dodds slack and said she's following orders from this fucking arsehole.

We asked Keir Starmer about Liverpool Mayor Joe Anderson saying that council funding levels 'could cost lives' - the Labour leader said he would raise the issue with Government @GranadaReports:https://t.co/jn4cf4Jn9h pic.twitter.com/lhWB9KE7hG

— Hannah Miller (@hannahITV) April 30, 2020

resign you dismal melt, people dying because of cuts to LA funding "is a very important issue...but what the public want to hear..rah rah rah evidence ..data ..." so sick of this fucking clown.

calzino, Friday, 1 May 2020 07:39 (four years ago) link

I don't think there's any point micro-analysing everything that happens between now and another election. They're probably melt cunts calz but it means nothing without a manifesto and the remote possibility of enacting it

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 May 2020 07:40 (four years ago) link

'Are you saying it's George's fault?' had the distinct impression of a deliberate attempt to trip up because it means the camera can go right back to Osborne who can put all the blame for austerity onto Labour again.

Matt DC, Friday, 1 May 2020 07:40 (four years ago) link

xp

The tone Starmer is setting now is a pretty good marker of what the manifesto will be like, I don't know about "micro-analysing" I'm just commenting on what is making my blood boil at a particular moment!

calzino, Friday, 1 May 2020 07:48 (four years ago) link

Sun Tzu's The Art of War, Machiavelli's The Prince, and Jamie Vardy's From Nowhere, My Story should be required reading before these Labour cats are allowed on television again

anvil, Friday, 1 May 2020 07:49 (four years ago) link

all Starmer will need is the Centrists book of the most useless mealy mouthed politician speak of the early 21st century. chapter one: Difficult decisions..

calzino, Friday, 1 May 2020 07:56 (four years ago) link

Starmer is often trying to minimise austerity, minimise racism everything about thus far suggests a return to the awful fucking 2015 state of the party. But yeah I should wait until the manifesto comes out until I slag him off, that would be a much better forensic + evidence based approach to posting!

calzino, Friday, 1 May 2020 08:07 (four years ago) link

like i said, i think you're right. but they're gonna chat a lot of shit over the next few years and most of it will amount to nothing.

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 May 2020 08:09 (four years ago) link

well la-di-da!

calzino, Friday, 1 May 2020 08:19 (four years ago) link


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