love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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Isn’t the FT arguing that the catastrophic death count has been dramatically undercounted though?

gyac, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:35 (four years ago) link

When you consider the death rate in terms of the size of the population the UK isn't the worst in Europe. I didn't realise Belgium was doing so badly.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:38 (four years ago) link

speaking of chucking world news stories onto the front page without context, the Guardian has been publishing local Australian stories into its main feeds for YEARS now with zero indication that that's where it's from - still catches me out sometimes. i'm like 'there's a massive forest fire in wales????'

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:39 (four years ago) link

Obviously that's not an excuse, Germany has a significantly larger population than both the UK and Italy and is doing a lot better - allowing for regional mistakes made in easing the lockdown of course.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:41 (four years ago) link

"Belgium was doing so badly."

there might be a correlation between high c-19 death rates and countries with lousy domestic cuisine!

calzino, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:44 (four years ago) link

there's a general impression of european countries 'easing' their lockdowns, often with little in the way of detail when reported in the news, that contributes towards a feeling that this is the time, everyone else is doing it.. but in france and spain their easing only gets them to about where the uk is now i.e. restaurants doing takeaway, kids allowed in parks, some people allowed to travel for work etc. By these standards we've been 'eased' the entire time!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:46 (four years ago) link

Belgium apparently is more inclusive in its data so I'm not sure they are actually 'the worst'.

nashwan, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:51 (four years ago) link

speaking of chucking world news stories onto the front page without context, the Guardian has been publishing local Australian stories into its main feeds for YEARS now with zero indication that that's where it's from - still catches me out sometimes. i'm like 'there's a massive forest fire in wales????'


There’s a small boy fallen down the well?!

gyac, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:54 (four years ago) link

Yeah, I don't think it's clear to a lot of people in the UK that compared with other countries in Europe much of the UK hasn't really had a lockdown at all

fetter, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:54 (four years ago) link

Yeah but the freedom-loving* Brits can’t be held to the same standards as Jean Foreigner and Paddy Gobackwards.

*except in the case of countries formerly part of the empire lol

gyac, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:56 (four years ago) link

Attacks against Chinese on the increase in the UK.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-hate-crimes-against-chinese-people-soar-in-uk-during-covid-19-crisis-11979388

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 13:49 (four years ago) link

i for one am impressed with how malleable the great british public's racist violence is

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 14:18 (four years ago) link

there might be a correlation between high c-19 death rates and countries with lousy domestic cuisine!

― calzino, Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:44 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

got to pull you up on this one Calz, Belgium is one of the best places to eat in the world IME

Neil S, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:29 (four years ago) link

Christ I hate this guy so fucking much

I will respectfully challenge the Government - I want our country to succeed.

However, I will not 'watch my tone' when dozens of NHS and care staff are dying unnecessarily.

A clip of my Q to the Health Sec today. pic.twitter.com/5jjQRXyIm3

— Dr Rosena Allin-Khan (@DrRosena) May 5, 2020

gyac, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:40 (four years ago) link

Also where does that thesis leave Italy and Spain? The US, you may have a point.
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the fucking cunts treat us like Styx (Matt #2), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link

I thought Belgium's national dish is oven chips with blood sausage or something!

calzino, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link

it’s beer iirc

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link

best chips in the world, with the possible exception of the Netherlands

Neil S, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link

Here's more songs about chocolate and beer.

Christ I hate this guy so fucking much

That praise from Tom Watson has gone to his head.

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link

That Allin-Khan video has been shared all over the place today, just terrible judgement from Hancock.

The BBC is now going with 'Highest Death Toll In Europe' as its main story.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link

Seriously though, I do think Hancock's ego has been puffed up by getting smoke blown up his arse over his incredible unprecedented success with testing.

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:57 (four years ago) link

and his brilliant Rona app that he says is everyone's duty to download ... yeah I'd rather actually install a disease

calzino, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link

You wouldn’t download a disease would you?

gyac, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:12 (four years ago) link

I haven’t been following; why is this app so much worse than eg Facebook or GMaps?

stet, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:17 (four years ago) link

The only people who'll download it will be Tories! Might give skewed data on the viral spread. Fuck that anyway, I'd be as likely to download an app from HMRC tbh.

the fucking cunts treat us like Styx (Matt #2), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:39 (four years ago) link

"You wouldn’t download a disease would you?"

I've been trying force my pc to develop immunity to Putin bitcoin mining trojans by downloading movies from dodgy disreputable torrent sites for years now .. so sort of!

calzino, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:57 (four years ago) link

belgian chips are mad overrated

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link

They certainly don't look anything special.

When a creep like MH says it is one's duty to dl this Rona app an internal switch clicks in me where I've just switched that app off forever.

calzino, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link

if Hat Mancock told you not to jump off a cliff would you do it?

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:21 (four years ago) link

Only if I had Steer Marmaluke chained to me!

calzino, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:23 (four years ago) link

well played

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:24 (four years ago) link

I meant Then I would jump off a cliff even if he told me not to!

calzino, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:25 (four years ago) link

Negativity problems itt

Microbes oft teem (wins), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link

the far right are in government now

turns out gove’s a big old fascist, shocking I know

Holy fucking shit. As well as Irving Michael Gove has books from prominent French New Right authors (fascists). Here's Why We Fight by Guillaume Faye - a core reading for new recruits of Generation Identiy. Before his death Faye spoke at events hosted by Richard Spencer https://t.co/BSnWNTbegj

— 12 Rules For WHAT (@12rulesforwhat) May 5, 2020

What's (Left), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:30 (four years ago) link

real nerd shit

Holy fucking shit. As well as Irving Michael Gove has books from prominent French New Right authors (fascists). Here's Why We Fight by Guillaume Faye - a core reading for new recruits of Generation Identiy. Before his death Faye spoke at events hosted by Richard Spencer https://t.co/BSnWNTbegj

— 12 Rules For WHAT (@12rulesforwhat) May 5, 2020

What's (Left), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link

oops sorry

What's (Left), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:32 (four years ago) link

all tories are fascists at this point afaic

What's (Left), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:33 (four years ago) link

I see now I’m late to the party as usual

What's (Left), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link

🔴Exclusive: Government scientist Neil Ferguson resigns after breaking lockdown rules to meet his married lover https://t.co/eLOfVjgHPL

— The Telegraph (@Telegraph) May 5, 2020

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:45 (four years ago) link

the bookshelf of a true galaxy brain:

https://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/photos/459000/Thomas-Mair-s-bookshelf-721459.jpg

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:47 (four years ago) link

This is essentially making constructive dismissal easier, and will let companies advertise the same roles for less pay

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) May 5, 2020

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link

lol that mair houses his gerald posner oswald-did-it-alone jfk books along with all the nazi stuff

mark s, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:55 (four years ago) link

belgian chips are mad overrated
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:14 PM (forty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

belgian beer otoh

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:57 (four years ago) link

Wasn't aware Belgian chips had any kind of rep except when they came with mussels.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 19:19 (four years ago) link

Wait I just remembered there's a literal Frites Museum in Bruges.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 19:23 (four years ago) link

Among Mair's other nazi possessions was a dvd of that HBO movie about the Wannssee conference with Branagh playing Heydrich and him from shameless playing some nazi fucker I cant recall! His Britain First brainworms version of Batman Begins or something perhaps.

calzino, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 19:27 (four years ago) link

from the ferguson article:

She and her husband live together with their two children in a £1.9 million home, but are understood to be in an open marriage. She has told friends about her relationship with Prof Ferguson, but does not believe their actions to be hypocritical because she considers the households to be one.

devvvine, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 19:31 (four years ago) link

i lol'ed

devvvine, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 19:32 (four years ago) link

big week for people in open relationships fucking up in public

who was the other one?

devvvine, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 19:35 (four years ago) link


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