love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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So @BootsUK want volunteers to risk catching #COVIDー19 whilst testing people and not pay them a penny. They want volunteers to work at least 32 hours a week. People should be paid to do this and Boots can afford to pay people. Awful. https://t.co/MQP8x7FaF5

— Charlotte Hughes. The Poor Side Of life (@charlotteh71) May 13, 2020

Boots trying to tap into that Big Society energy slave labour for dangerous work requiring a 32 hour week. cunts.

calzino, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 12:55 (four years ago) link

The Tories' big asset is their ruthlessness and consequent ability to renew themselves - don't like these Tories? Fine, we'll get new ones. This lot have managed to get where they are partly due to distrust but also heavily on hot air and that isn't going to cut it any longer. But if it looks like it's going seriously wrong in the eyes of the electorate once the pandemic is receding then they won't hesitate to try and oust him.

They might be a little thin in terms of bench strength by now though.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 12:56 (four years ago) link

how can you say that when Chris Grayling is still in the playing squad?

calzino, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 12:58 (four years ago) link

Chris Grayling has never announced his retirement from international football.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 13:00 (four years ago) link

oh they'll go for Sunak like a shot. He is already making the right noises about protecting money above all else, he's across the detail and the melts wet themselves about him

stet, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 13:01 (four years ago) link

He's also the key person behind the 'remove lockdown, let them all die' wing of the party aiui, which i guess will come out more in the event there was a leadership election.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 13:05 (four years ago) link

Johnson is a last roll of the dice for Tories in some respect. That 'star quality' aspect so many seem to think he has is completely absent in anyone else within the party. They will gamble everything to maintain control but...who are the Etonians coming up to replace the class of 10+ years ago if any?

nashwan, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 13:07 (four years ago) link

you won't know until it's too late

imago, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 13:14 (four years ago) link

there's Prue Leith's son Danny Kruger for one

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 13:19 (four years ago) link

Toby Young in a backwards baseball cap.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 13:23 (four years ago) link

https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1260567659516747787

"My own advice was misquoted to me so, er, I had to lie"

stet, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link

No 10 says Starmer 'inaccurately + selectively' quoted the March 12th guidance - see it in full for yourself here - https://t.co/JJ8c9cLLeL

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) May 13, 2020

stet, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link

The document which was published Feb 25th then withdrawn on Mar 13th says twice that it is very unlikely people in care homes would get infected because there was no community transmission of the virus at that stage

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) May 13, 2020

stet, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 13:51 (four years ago) link

Johnson, Sunak, some other Etonian...it all works for the Tories (or Labour) as long as there is enough money for enough of the population to live on. Whatever the growth, whatever the recession, whatever the austerity that has pretty much been the case. Even the Furlough at 80% will be too little for a lot of small companies the longer this goes on. At the moment there is a fake re-start of the economy going on and when that fails there is another -- and always the ultimate -- test, i.e. how long does that magic money tree keep running on for, and does that make it through to enough people.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 14:01 (four years ago) link

They’d do it with Sunak just so they could have the first BAME PM. Though everyone else is a busted flush and he’s relatively new, I don’t know who else there would or could be.

gyac, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 14:02 (four years ago) link

i agree and even hope that it will implode sooner rather than later. what i question is whether the upshot will be anything other than starmer's labour in power

imago, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 14:03 (four years ago) link

Fucking hell you know it's bad when Laura K is pointing out the govt's bullshit.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 14:06 (four years ago) link

We had a decade of zombie 'growth' based on rock bottom interest rates that enriched the 1% while the public sector was endlessly looted and workers' rights pared to the bone

We now have simply formalised the zombieness of our economy, while going ahead and letting actual people just die, paid UBI for a few months for jobs that won't exist later as they contemplate a life on UC

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 14:08 (four years ago) link

They’d do it with Sunak just so they could have the first BAME PM. Though everyone else is a busted flush and he’s relatively new, I don’t know who else there would or could be.

― gyac, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Is being Asian enough of an issue for the core Tory voters though?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 14:28 (four years ago) link

Given the age and risk profile of most core Tory voters that might not be an issue by then.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 14:29 (four years ago) link

They could be stuffed whoever is in charge if that becomes the case. But Covid is killing people in cities (mostly Lab) and a lot of BAME workers too.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 14:34 (four years ago) link

(That's my assumption I haven't checked the figures as broken down by area lately)

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 14:36 (four years ago) link

I'm talking about the people who actually vote in Tory leadership elections, but I was also being a bit facetious. My gut feeling is they won't go for him but you never know.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 14:46 (four years ago) link

they go for sunak if they decide they can beat like with like (not that he is starmer's exact like but the voters may see it thus)

they go for some sort of joffreyesque young psycho 'character' str8 outta eton (or girls school equiv) if...if they think british affection to those types will never truly fade idk

there are alternatives. one of which is phoenix bojo

imago, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 15:02 (four years ago) link

They’d do it with Sunak just so they could have the first BAME PM. Though everyone else is a busted flush and he’s relatively new, I don’t know who else there would or could be.

― gyac, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Is being Asian enough of an issue for the core Tory voters though?


He’s not Muslim, so no. They’d happily vote for Patel if she made the ballot.

gyac, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 15:03 (four years ago) link

I think the only way Sunak wins is via the Theresa May route: a contest where everyone but him drops before it goes to membership vote.

santa clause four (suzy), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 15:15 (four years ago) link

what if him vs gove goes to a vote

imago, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 15:17 (four years ago) link

“I think if they haven’t got sick by now, they think they’ve got away with it,” she said.

think this is going to be a lot of ppl's thinking. have caught myself thinking it even - v.silly and complacent

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 15:21 (four years ago) link

Myself also, even tho 3 seconds with a calculator says the recorded cases is .3% of the population, and while it'll be higher - a lot higher - even 100 times that is a 1/3 chance that I've had it.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 16:13 (four years ago) link

He’s not Muslim, so no. They’d happily vote for Patel if she made the ballot.

This is 100% true, though the psychosexual turmoil might cause another few thousand to shuffle off.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 16:27 (four years ago) link

Jenrick says people (in England) can now move house if they want to.

He says they have to follow the guidelines on the government’s website.

He says he can understand why people might think it is odd to be allowed to visit a stranger’s house (if they are buying), but not a relative’s.

But, he says, in the first instance buyers should inspect a house online. There should be no open viewings, and no speculative viewings, he says.


so can i visit my mum and dad if they post some pictures of each of the rooms in their house on imgur beforehand

Millennials are using this app to speak in just 3 weeks. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 16:35 (four years ago) link

All viewings are speculative! How does anyone prove they're not? And does this apply to moving into house-shares? Can't be arsed attempting to traverse the govt website to find out tbh

zoom séance goes tits up (Matt #2), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 16:51 (four years ago) link

here’s the Johnson reply, urging Starmer to stick to his pledge to work “constructively” with the government: “The public expect us to work together.” pic.twitter.com/o285c9ylYh

— Jim Pickard (@PickardJE) May 13, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 17:06 (four years ago) link

starmer ‘missing the mood of the nation’ claims boris

Millennials are using this app to speak in just 3 weeks. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 17:09 (four years ago) link

The government has privately conceded there will be checks on goods crossing the Irish sea post Brexit

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 17:12 (four years ago) link

"That's a very mean question and you are mean for asking", where have we heard that before

stet, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 17:12 (four years ago) link

Trying to beat Sir Forensic with pedantry isn't going to work so he's resorting to shame, but the fact that Starmer felt confident enough to try that question is because he knows the public is getting angry.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 17:17 (four years ago) link

^this coming from someone who 1 week ago typed the words 'when Boris beats Starmer' to this very thread ;)

imago, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 17:25 (four years ago) link

Sir Keir's performances in the House of Commons have been praised as "forensic" and his debate with Mr Johnson at Prime Minister's Questions likened to "a quietly terrifying force".

nothing worse than getting terrorised by a quiet and deadly fart.

calzino, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link

is a handwritten salutation the done thing round those parts? publicly released letters here just have a typed salutation and autopen signatures on the bottom

silby, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 17:57 (four years ago) link

doesn't really give a strong impression of Bo's motor skills

silby, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 17:58 (four years ago) link

especially since it looks like his misspelled ‘keir’ and hamfistedly corrected it

Millennials are using this app to speak in just 3 weeks. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link

Makes it look like a form letter somehow

zoom séance goes tits up (Matt #2), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link

doesn't really give a strong impression of Bo's motor skills


One time this country’s deranged press hounded a prime minister with a glass eye for using a marker to sign a card to a bereaved mother

gyac, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 18:58 (four years ago) link

today the guardian/mumsnet crowd is asserting their right to put their servants at risk cleaning up their filth as a pressing feminist issue. in case anyone was unsure about their class politics, or who they mean when they talk about women

What's (Left), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:26 (four years ago) link

One time this country’s deranged press hounded a prime minister with a glass eye for using a marker to sign a card to a bereaved mother


that were good, that

Millennials are using this app to speak in just 3 weeks. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:42 (four years ago) link

It's interesting how the announcement has made everything ... just worse, really.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:51 (four years ago) link

back in the 80's my heavily pregnant mum was doing a cleaning job for some posh lazy wankers and ended up having such a terrible miscarriage that she lost so much blood from it she was technically dead for a minute. I'm not saying it was categorically their fault - she was overdoing it for the condition she was in, but I still will blame the fucking arseholes 1000% for the rest of my life!

calzino, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:55 (four years ago) link

Like, there's now a really unpleasant feeling hanging around my head. Difficult to articulate it but it's sort of like if you were stuck on a desert island following a shipwreck, had kind of settled into a routine of eating grubs and waiting to see what would happen, and then what happens is the self appointed leader of the group announces that his an is, a ship will come if we all stand on our heads, because Jef the Mongoose told him.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:55 (four years ago) link


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