love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1260567659516747787

"My own advice was misquoted to me so, er, I had to lie"

No 10 says Starmer 'inaccurately + selectively' quoted the March 12th guidance - see it in full for yourself here - https://t.co/JJ8c9cLLeL

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) May 13, 2020

The document which was published Feb 25th then withdrawn on Mar 13th says twice that it is very unlikely people in care homes would get infected because there was no community transmission of the virus at that stage

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) May 13, 2020

Johnson, Sunak, some other Etonian...it all works for the Tories (or Labour) as long as there is enough money for enough of the population to live on. Whatever the growth, whatever the recession, whatever the austerity that has pretty much been the case. Even the Furlough at 80% will be too little for a lot of small companies the longer this goes on. At the moment there is a fake re-start of the economy going on and when that fails there is another -- and always the ultimate -- test, i.e. how long does that magic money tree keep running on for, and does that make it through to enough people.

They’d do it with Sunak just so they could have the first BAME PM. Though everyone else is a busted flush and he’s relatively new, I don’t know who else there would or could be.

i agree and even hope that it will implode sooner rather than later. what i question is whether the upshot will be anything other than starmer's labour in power

Fucking hell you know it's bad when Laura K is pointing out the govt's bullshit.

We had a decade of zombie 'growth' based on rock bottom interest rates that enriched the 1% while the public sector was endlessly looted and workers' rights pared to the bone

We now have simply formalised the zombieness of our economy, while going ahead and letting actual people just die, paid UBI for a few months for jobs that won't exist later as they contemplate a life on UC

They’d do it with Sunak just so they could have the first BAME PM. Though everyone else is a busted flush and he’s relatively new, I don’t know who else there would or could be.

― gyac, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Is being Asian enough of an issue for the core Tory voters though?

Given the age and risk profile of most core Tory voters that might not be an issue by then.

They could be stuffed whoever is in charge if that becomes the case. But Covid is killing people in cities (mostly Lab) and a lot of BAME workers too.

(That's my assumption I haven't checked the figures as broken down by area lately)

I'm talking about the people who actually vote in Tory leadership elections, but I was also being a bit facetious. My gut feeling is they won't go for him but you never know.

they go for sunak if they decide they can beat like with like (not that he is starmer's exact like but the voters may see it thus)

they go for some sort of joffreyesque young psycho 'character' str8 outta eton (or girls school equiv) if...if they think british affection to those types will never truly fade idk

there are alternatives. one of which is phoenix bojo

They’d do it with Sunak just so they could have the first BAME PM. Though everyone else is a busted flush and he’s relatively new, I don’t know who else there would or could be.

― gyac, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Is being Asian enough of an issue for the core Tory voters though?

I love this song:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/13/packed-tube-trains-prompt-union-anger-at-johnsons-back-to-work-message-coronavirus-lockdown

I think the only way Sunak wins is via the Theresa May route: a contest where everyone but him drops before it goes to membership vote.

what if him vs gove goes to a vote

“I think if they haven’t got sick by now, they think they’ve got away with it,” she said.

think this is going to be a lot of ppl's thinking. have caught myself thinking it even - v.silly and complacent

Myself also, even tho 3 seconds with a calculator says the recorded cases is .3% of the population, and while it'll be higher - a lot higher - even 100 times that is a 1/3 chance that I've had it.

He’s not Muslim, so no. They’d happily vote for Patel if she made the ballot.

This is 100% true, though the psychosexual turmoil might cause another few thousand to shuffle off.

Jenrick says people (in England) can now move house if they want to.

He says they have to follow the guidelines on the government’s website.

He says he can understand why people might think it is odd to be allowed to visit a stranger’s house (if they are buying), but not a relative’s.

But, he says, in the first instance buyers should inspect a house online. There should be no open viewings, and no speculative viewings, he says.

All viewings are speculative! How does anyone prove they're not? And does this apply to moving into house-shares? Can't be arsed attempting to traverse the govt website to find out tbh

here’s the Johnson reply, urging Starmer to stick to his pledge to work “constructively” with the government: “The public expect us to work together.” pic.twitter.com/o285c9ylYh

— Jim Pickard (@PickardJE) May 13, 2020

starmer ‘missing the mood of the nation’ claims boris

The government has privately conceded there will be checks on goods crossing the Irish sea post Brexit

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"That's a very mean question and you are mean for asking", where have we heard that before

Trying to beat Sir Forensic with pedantry isn't going to work so he's resorting to shame, but the fact that Starmer felt confident enough to try that question is because he knows the public is getting angry.

^this coming from someone who 1 week ago typed the words 'when Boris beats Starmer' to this very thread ;)

Sir Keir's performances in the House of Commons have been praised as "forensic" and his debate with Mr Johnson at Prime Minister's Questions likened to "a quietly terrifying force".

nothing worse than getting terrorised by a quiet and deadly fart.

is a handwritten salutation the done thing round those parts? publicly released letters here just have a typed salutation and autopen signatures on the bottom

doesn't really give a strong impression of Bo's motor skills

especially since it looks like his misspelled ‘keir’ and hamfistedly corrected it

Makes it look like a form letter somehow

doesn't really give a strong impression of Bo's motor skills

today the guardian/mumsnet crowd is asserting their right to put their servants at risk cleaning up their filth as a pressing feminist issue. in case anyone was unsure about their class politics, or who they mean when they talk about women

One time this country’s deranged press hounded a prime minister with a glass eye for using a marker to sign a card to a bereaved mother

It's interesting how the announcement has made everything ... just worse, really.

back in the 80's my heavily pregnant mum was doing a cleaning job for some posh lazy wankers and ended up having such a terrible miscarriage that she lost so much blood from it she was technically dead for a minute. I'm not saying it was categorically their fault - she was overdoing it for the condition she was in, but I still will blame the fucking arseholes 1000% for the rest of my life!

Like, there's now a really unpleasant feeling hanging around my head. Difficult to articulate it but it's sort of like if you were stuck on a desert island following a shipwreck, had kind of settled into a routine of eating grubs and waiting to see what would happen, and then what happens is the self appointed leader of the group announces that his an is, a ship will come if we all stand on our heads, because Jef the Mongoose told him.

*plan

Thing about the people wanting their cleaners back is, I'm supposed to have cleaners included in my rent. They've obviously not been coming round. Sure, why would they? Terrifying to me that people exist who think cleaners should now be expected to come back.

Our cleaner's safety is our main concern. Before entering the house, she's put through a series of polytunnels, where she's sprayed with disinfectant and walks through an antiviral foot bath. And during the pandemic it's been no different.

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) May 13, 2020

two of my wife’s musician friends, have been giving their regular lessons to pupils via zoom over the last few weeks, have reported seeing cleaners pottering around in the background of calls recently

just... fuckin’ pay them and let them stay at home you ghouls

that might be the best hedges post ever.

Read this URL and weep: https://www.economist.com/asia/2020/05/09/vietnam-and-the-indian-state-of-kerala-curbed-covid-19-on-the-cheap

From this piece, its author is reliably good: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/13/state-collapse-social-order-coronavirus-britain

When in 1918 the Spanish flu hit America, cities from Pittsburgh to Seattle responded in very different ways. Some locked down for three weeks; others for 10. What was the result? Surely, your average Tory backbencher or puckish columnist would say, it’s obvious: the harder you hit the virus, the greater the harm to the economy. In fact, the opposite is true, according to analysis published this March by three economists, two of them at the US central bank. They find the economies of “cities that intervened earlier and more aggressively do not perform worse and, if anything, grow faster after the pandemic is over”.

The title of the economists’ study says it all: “Pandemics depress the economy, public health interventions do not.” I have not seen it quoted anywhere by the hard exiters or the supposedly science-hungry cabinet. Funny that.

Dorries (who has consistently been a piece of vile fucking garbage) deleted a tweet from far-right account that recently tweeted that BAME c-19 deaths are higher because they live in "overpopulated shitholes". The deleted tweet was some typical neo-fash grooming gang misinformation re: Starmer's shift at the DPP. Good job the EHRC approves of them keeping their racism investigations strictly internal.

Lucy Allen and Maria Caufield retweeted it as well

The UK Freedom of Movement people who are organising mass meetings across the country are a registered company with one officer.

Step forward Britain First's Jayda Fransen pic.twitter.com/eGFNM8YXge

— Otto English (@Otto_English) May 14, 2020

I would be quite happy to see the pigs administering a good old fashioned shoeing to anyone involved with dangerously irresponsible neo-fascist "freedom" protests tbh