love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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clive lewis isn't hated so much as exasperatedly tutted at, his heart has always been in the right place despite his antics and i think most here would agree

imago, Friday, 15 May 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link

and yeah some good/interesting ideas there, may even overlook the use of 'millennia' in the singular

imago, Friday, 15 May 2020 18:15 (four years ago) link

Has Brendan O'Neill always been so morose? He doesn't seem to get any kind of kick out of doing this stuff at all. It feels like he's worn himself out. He should be getting more of a buzz out of it, it not working

anvil, Friday, 15 May 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link

tutting is just gutless hating

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Friday, 15 May 2020 18:22 (four years ago) link

xp well as long as he's miserable

What's (Left), Friday, 15 May 2020 19:06 (four years ago) link

he's had a hard life, Maxim Gorky has nothing on this mofo's "Irish peasant stock" background of intense class struggle and suffering!

calzino, Friday, 15 May 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link

clive lewis isn't hated so much as exasperatedly tutted at, his heart has always been in the right place despite his antics and i think most here would agree


I’m a woman, so no

gyac, Friday, 15 May 2020 21:20 (four years ago) link

Clive Lewis is a twat

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Friday, 15 May 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link

a bit of a Q+C soldier boy and boorish alpha-male wanker from hell even if you want to write off his "antics"!

calzino, Friday, 15 May 2020 21:32 (four years ago) link

The report notes that while Swinson was hampered by having less than five months between winning the party leadership and the election, her decision to immediately seek a new party chief executive undermined decision-making structures.

“This had the unintended consequence creating an ‘inner circle’ of advisers at arm’s length from the resources of the party machine, and put decision-making in the hands of an unaccountable group around the leader,” the report says. “It also severed some people from the roles and responsibilities they were employed to do, and led to the overpromotion of others.”

it's a familiar old story, Swinson became intoxicated with power and installed an upper circle of sycophantic cronies who weren't going to hit her with any harsh truths. Love that idiot photo op they did at the autumn party conference were Swinson was Moses on Bournemouth beach, leading her party into the English Channel. "we are LibDems, we only go forwards, even if that means walking into the sea with our clothes on"

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 09:26 (four years ago) link

Shot; chaser. pic.twitter.com/dS7sUetSmC

— David Timoney (@fromarsetoelbow) May 16, 2020

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 10:06 (four years ago) link

Bet Clive Lewis liked that excellent thread by accident.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 May 2020 11:32 (four years ago) link

But this is the reality of the solutions this government will come up with:

if those were the terms offered to TfL, what do you think the bailout conditions for universities will be? things are going to get really bad/even worse, very soon

— Amelia (@joan0fsnark) May 16, 2020

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 May 2020 11:33 (four years ago) link

Clive Lewis is one of the best current UK MPs.

the pinefox, Saturday, 16 May 2020 12:08 (four years ago) link

especially if you enjoy getting on your knees

come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 May 2020 12:10 (four years ago) link

better than RLB or Nadia Whittome ? nope not a chance and his "antics" aren't having a jokey hand-buzzer and a spinning bow-tie, he's had complaints of groping made against him by women in the plural iirc.

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 12:12 (four years ago) link

There's about, what, 50 good MPs out of 650? And that's being charitable.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 May 2020 12:22 (four years ago) link

I think that sounds quite generous from the ace with mace downwards there is probably about 630 oxygen thieves, landlords, corrupt lobbyists and tories etc...

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 12:24 (four years ago) link

The Bundesliga returns today and that will, no doubt, make people pine for the return of the Premier League. If you're amongst those pining, consider having a listen to this. The brilliant @aut_omnia thinks Project Restart is - to quote Danny Rose - bollocks. https://t.co/KyIUaa1jFY

— Chris Miller (@WindyCOYS) May 16, 2020

If this goes well and the PL doesn't re-start because...one to watch.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 May 2020 13:14 (four years ago) link

This is my favourite headline of 2020 so farhttps://t.co/4sPVq4sZ88

— David__Osland (@David__Osland) May 16, 2020

gyac, Saturday, 16 May 2020 13:27 (four years ago) link

typos in the Times idk

come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 May 2020 13:29 (four years ago) link

He's only been in one party in 2020 so far, is he dying? Can't believe Sir K hasn't invited him back yet.

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 13:44 (four years ago) link

The pandemic eggspurt on that Spurs podcast is very good

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 13:46 (four years ago) link

oh dear Jezza's brother Piers bringing shame to the family name again!

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link

now the hated thangam debbonaire has also liked the caroline molloy tweet, which is sort of heartening but lends credence to the idea that her badness stems primarily from not having a clue what she's doing

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Saturday, 16 May 2020 17:09 (four years ago) link

when she was on Any Questions earlier this year she talked like someone quite befuddled and dumb rather than an ideologue, I suppose like a lot of the melts. She was telling Ash Sarkar she couldn't be a dual member of the labour party and the communists or something like that, it was quite an embarrassing show but she still got loads of claps I think!

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 17:19 (four years ago) link

accidentally opened the US politics thread lads
https://i.gifer.com/GGg3.gif

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Saturday, 16 May 2020 17:20 (four years ago) link

Fucking horrible isn’t it

gyac, Saturday, 16 May 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link

you, quite literally, hate to see it

Which one?

plax (ico), Saturday, 16 May 2020 17:47 (four years ago) link

Beat me to it. The Joe Biden one isn't the Official ILX US Politics Thread.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 May 2020 17:48 (four years ago) link

Christ, the Labour Party leadership election taking 4 months (or however long it was) was painful enough but nothing compared to US presidential campaigns which are more or less infinite.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 May 2020 17:52 (four years ago) link

seriously can't believe how long that primary has gone on

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Saturday, 16 May 2020 17:57 (four years ago) link

hey if it's always an election then you don't have to do any actual politics

come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 May 2020 18:12 (four years ago) link

had a quick peek, makes you glad the UK melts are so cowed

come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 May 2020 18:18 (four years ago) link

US thread is a really good example of people pushing people who think differently to them further away, with each post the possibility of persuasion diminishes.

anvil, Saturday, 16 May 2020 18:25 (four years ago) link

So are we allowed to comment in a political thread concerning a country we're not from? I've never been sure of the etiquette.

zoom séance goes tits up (Matt #2), Saturday, 16 May 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link

This happens everywhere but its notable that the removal of Fred doesn't actually seem to have made any difference. Its tempting to compare Fred to a massive shit that has a smell long after the shit itself has been cleaned away, but I think that's somewhat unfair and only a small contributory factor.

anvil, Saturday, 16 May 2020 18:27 (four years ago) link

Have you heard he's been unbanned btw?

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 May 2020 18:30 (four years ago) link

Can I just say; Piers Corbyn speaks for Piers Corbyn and only Piers Corbyn.

...Every family has a Piers I'm sure 🙄😂

— Tommy Corbyn (@TommyCorbyn) May 16, 2020

lol !

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 19:29 (four years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/16/thatcherite-thinktanks-back-increase-public-spending-in-lockdown?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

in a call to around 125 members of the 1922 Committee of backbenchers, the Daily Telegraph reported that the prime minister said there was “no question” of a return to austerity, and assured them he would “double down” on funding transport projects in the north of England.

Left-leaning thinktanks and academics have lined up to condemn plans for a return to austerity, saying it would harm the recovery, and adding that further government borrowing would be needed to secure a return to growth after the virus-induced mothballing of the economy.

All thinktanks should be liquidated "a return to austerity" the faux-naive graun pretending that austerity ended is such an insult to millions of people still living through it. cunts

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 20:32 (four years ago) link

the recovery

what is this

zoom séance goes tits up (Matt #2), Saturday, 16 May 2020 21:03 (four years ago) link

If this lot are as proficient at recovery as they are at prevention I wouldn't expect much.

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 21:24 (four years ago) link

I know that liking an eminently sensible Twitter thread is ultimately meaningless but Clive Lewis comes across as a slightly dim, misogynist boor who allies himself on the right side of several arguments. Debobbaire was a whip under Corbyn so can hardly be on the irreconcilable right of the party but is a terrible communicator and comes across as someone who is basically well meaning but has internalised a lot of dreadful shit about how sensible grown-up politics is done.

Matt DC, Saturday, 16 May 2020 21:45 (four years ago) link

that's what I was reaching for when I posted she isn't an ideologue, ironically the flimsy sense of what her *politics* are, that you get from listening to her - are certainly more informed by party factionalism than any kind of political conviction and much more so than than in the lefties she accuses of factionalism or "un-Labourness"

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 22:08 (four years ago) link

well fuck it, she's an irredeemable melt is the truth!

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 22:39 (four years ago) link

Clive Lewis often positions himself to the left of many awful people in the PLP but still seems a very *grasping* unreliable type of political operator who I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw him. Even if he wasn't so obviously such a terrible human being.

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 22:54 (four years ago) link

Love too see comrade alphie is so influential he can prevent tens of thousands of swing voters in the US from voting, just because of his utterances on little-read website ilx dot com.

Good to see the government’s approval ratings fall; long may it continue. I see that Eton and other rich kid schools won’t reopen til the autumn, but state school children must be resilient or something?

gyac, Sunday, 17 May 2020 10:03 (four years ago) link

thank god the idea that you are responsible for what crimes one awful political party commits on it's most vulnerable citizens and ethnic minorities by not voting for another awful party that you have come to despise will not become a commonly held logical fallacy in the UK political chat bubbles until at least 2024!

calzino, Sunday, 17 May 2020 10:12 (four years ago) link

Love too see comrade alphie is so influential he can prevent tens of thousands of swing voters in the US from voting, just because of his utterances on little-read website ilx dot com.

LOL that one leapt out at me too. He will be pleased.

Good to see the government’s approval ratings fall; long may it continue. I see that Eton and other rich kid schools won’t reopen til the autumn, but state school children must be resilient or something?

Gove on Andrew Marr this morning trotting out that disingenuos garbage about "What about poor and disadvantage kids, they have a right to an education and will miss out on opportunites if..." blah blah blah. On another note, how sweet to hear the mellifluous and distictive native accents of the two Scotsmen Marr and Gove.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 May 2020 10:14 (four years ago) link


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