love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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This surely down to it being illegal to go into a shop without a mask? Which I'm iffy about - good idea in places where the councils provide masks, less cool where ppl are left to make/buy their own.

Yeah thats definitely the reason, though the percentage was creeping up quite a bit before they made that the case. Felt like 60%+ before they made it mandatory

cherry blossom, Sunday, 17 May 2020 15:37 (four years ago) link

It is way too busy out there and I’m not seeing much alertness, everyone’s just given up afaics. That’s the good old blitz spirit!

What fash heil is this? (wins), Sunday, 17 May 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link

the ol’ blitz spirit, where people turned on all their house lights and stood in the street waiting to take a v2 rocket on the chin so the economy wouldn’t collapse

There's more than one London - mine's looked a lot like what plax is describing, all along.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 17 May 2020 16:07 (four years ago) link

Dulwich Park is rammed but only by CV standards, still down on usual craziness. Distancing being attempted

stet, Sunday, 17 May 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link

I mean london is so densely clustered around its striations of class, I live in a corner populated with lots of wealthy and very entitled young people and it has turned into a 24-hour outdoor aerobecize class. Every time i go to walk the dog it feels like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0SrGWTVyBw

plax (ico), Sunday, 17 May 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link

I can walk a few blocks towards bloomsbury and the streets empty out but as soon as i head in the direction of upper st/old st i'm surrounded by the plague-spreading straplings from pepys' diary

plax (ico), Sunday, 17 May 2020 16:25 (four years ago) link

class and types of housing has got tons to do with it no doubt

come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 May 2020 16:30 (four years ago) link

Bloomsbury is often pretty quiet tbh but likely to be especially so with no students or office workers. The very idea of negotiating Upper Street right now fills me with panic.

I ordered some folding chairs for the park the other day and I'm already wondering if that was a mistake.

Matt DC, Sunday, 17 May 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link

There's been some speculation that London is a lot further along in the curve than the rest of the country and cases have declined significantly. Impossible to know really, especially as we have no idea what percentage of the city may have been symptomless. Going outside doesn't feel quite as much like running the death gauntlet as it did a month ago but that might be complacency setting in.

Then again it's been more than a fortnight since I went further than the bins so what do I know?

Matt DC, Sunday, 17 May 2020 16:40 (four years ago) link

twitter's culture-war crybullying carousel are currently aiming their racism-calling ray at stewart lee, it is literally breathtaking to see how they do it. at this stage i almost think they believe their own formerly-disingenuous bullshit

imago, Sunday, 17 May 2020 16:43 (four years ago) link

can someone pls translate that for people who don’t use twitter

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Sunday, 17 May 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link

actually don’t bother

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Sunday, 17 May 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link

Bloomsbury is very quiet still, 1 in 5 in masks, but the good coffee shops and Master Wei are open for take-away. Never had to queue more than five deep to go into a shop and everyone in Sainsbury’s etc is trying really hard to maintain social distance. I think the queuing and space invasion are both worse in Zone 2 residential areas.

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 17 May 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link

I live right inside the zone1 rim and definitely heading in is preferable than heading out. don't go near the fn canal though jesus

plax (ico), Sunday, 17 May 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link

My bit of Peckham is still pretty social distancey, I’d say over half the people I see on the street have masks on. Some stuff has slipped a bit (lads playing basketball etc) but mostly it still has the weird uncomfortable paranoid atmosphere of a few weeks ago.

crisp, Sunday, 17 May 2020 17:07 (four years ago) link

In Glasgow and I can definitely see more people out and about and a lot more cars on the road. And we've been specifically advised to remain indoors!

boxedjoy, Sunday, 17 May 2020 17:12 (four years ago) link

weird uncomfortable paranoid atmosphere

To be honest I'm going to miss this when it's gone

zoom séance goes tits up (Matt #2), Sunday, 17 May 2020 17:19 (four years ago) link

Am dangerously accustomed to nice empty London now, yeah.

stet, Sunday, 17 May 2020 17:20 (four years ago) link

twitter's culture-war crybullying carousel are currently aiming their racism-calling ray at stewart lee, it is literally breathtaking to see how they do it. at this stage i almost think they believe their own formerly-disingenuous bullshit

Main person I saw tweeting about this is Ben Judah and I don't really feel like I'm more entitled than him to decide what is or isn't anti-semitism.

Name actually read as German, not Jewish to me (my own ethnocentrism at play there obv) but either way "hurhurhur weird name" is a bad look and significantly below Lee's level. 100% not something to get capt-save-a-stew about.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 17 May 2020 17:25 (four years ago) link

I hate joggers as much as the next person but you are not going to get coronavirus from joggers

https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 17 May 2020 17:53 (four years ago) link

Canal has mostly been OK when I am on it - but I only go early on weekdays. I tend towards the Granary Square--> Primrose Hill walk rather than any part of East London.

Approximately where are you, plax? Sadlers Wells/Finsbury?

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link

I hate joggers as much as the next person but you are not going to get coronavirus from joggers

https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 17 May 2020 17:53 (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

This describes joggers moving past you quickly, not appearing behind you suddenly and breathing down your neck until you sidestep. This has happened to my multiple times and I see it happening quite frequently. Main reason never to go near canal where this happens under the bridges where it's tight and there's nowhere to go.

I agree Suzy, canal is always way nicer on the west part, but I live just by where it opens out east after angel (to answer your question!)

plax (ico), Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:27 (four years ago) link

summary execution for all joggers and drivers imo

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:28 (four years ago) link

In Bow the Roman Road has looked nearly as populated as it was On pre-virus market days. About 1/10 masks. Queue for Poundland can have 10-15 people in it, even more so than Tesco. Went Shoreditch the other day to get some stuff. Didn’t venture out much but on brick lane the queue for the bagel shop went off the street and on to the Bethnal Green road. I know it’s densely populated around here but it does feel like people are treating it like it’s over

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:33 (four years ago) link

I've stopped walking by the local canal because it seems too close to people's homes (though that might feel different for others).

I chose to shop at a biggish Sainsbury's yesterday when all I was really after was bread, wine and The Guardian. I actually think Sainsbury's has been fairly decent - closing off aisles when they're being restocked etc - but it felt horrible. People were too close and ... we're not actually at a different point than a few weeks ago when we all thought we were going to die.

djh, Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link

twitter's culture-war crybullying carousel are currently aiming their racism-calling ray

probably have soyface too the virtue signalling beta cucks

no (Left), Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:42 (four years ago) link

Sainsbury's by me has felt way too full all the way through this, reduced from the dawn of the dead numbers pre lockdown now just like a busy suburban supermarket.

plax (ico), Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:43 (four years ago) link

probably have soyface too the virtue signalling beta cucks

― no (Left), Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:42 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah i'm talking about the hard-right disingenuous crybullies, not actual victims here

imago, Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:55 (four years ago) link

This describes joggers moving past you quickly, not appearing behind you suddenly and breathing down your neck until you sidestep.

Well it draws a distinction between being in an enclosed room for tens of minutes and outdoor interactions lasting a few seconds.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:55 (four years ago) link

you know, the ones who insisted until they believed it that jeremy corbyn is a racist

imago, Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:55 (four years ago) link

Still as Danielrf said, Lee should be better than that shitty aren't non-english-sounding-names-such-a-jolly-wheeze routine. Even if a load of hypocritical racists are first in line calling him a cunt.

calzino, Sunday, 17 May 2020 19:05 (four years ago) link

I'm guessing he wouldn't have done this if he knew it was Jewish surname he was taking the piss out of.

calzino, Sunday, 17 May 2020 19:31 (four years ago) link

There is nothing in Tudgenhat's wikipedia entry about him being Jewish, and nothing in his father's either, also if you read the entry the passage isn't actually mocking his name, not exactly anyway.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 17 May 2020 19:36 (four years ago) link

not read it tbh. I find his humour pieces in the Observer generally not very funny tbh and I say this as someone who has enjoyed his tv shows.

calzino, Sunday, 17 May 2020 19:38 (four years ago) link

without reading the details i feel safe saying that nobody should be assumed incapable of dickitude, include Stewart Lee

come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 May 2020 20:47 (four years ago) link

the MoS hatchet job on Starmer has got to be the most inept right-wing attack job I've ever seen. Less donkey sanctuaries more donkey jackets next time eh lads! His approval ratings have probably just shot up 10 pts with rich nimby pensioners in the tory heartlands who don't want property developers ruining the view from their back garden.

calzino, Monday, 18 May 2020 08:31 (four years ago) link

And now, the political party broadcast the Labour Party should be doing.

Our letting agent asked us to make a video of the flat we are basically being forced out of. I wish them the very best of luck. pic.twitter.com/h3fcOw657w

— Sandy Batchelor (@sandybatchelor) May 17, 2020

gyac, Monday, 18 May 2020 08:44 (four years ago) link

Excellent work

come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 May 2020 08:50 (four years ago) link

I AM A FREE

I AM NOT MAN

A NUMBER

on his bedroom wall, very good work!

calzino, Monday, 18 May 2020 09:01 (four years ago) link

not all landlords, just about 99.9% are scum of the earth

calzino, Monday, 18 May 2020 09:03 (four years ago) link

I love this and so do you don't lie.

Perhaps if World War 2 happened today the questions would include:- pic.twitter.com/XeOOrJPnuX

— Lord Ashcroft (@LordAshcroft) May 17, 2020

nashwan, Monday, 18 May 2020 09:19 (four years ago) link

But if World War 2 was only happening today what would've been shown instead of 'Allo 'Allo? A Troubles sitcom? Don't make me laugh!

nashwan, Monday, 18 May 2020 09:21 (four years ago) link

Dad's Republican Army

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Monday, 18 May 2020 09:22 (four years ago) link

Only Melts and Donkies

the adventures of Starmy the cheeky brylcreemed spiv

calzino, Monday, 18 May 2020 09:31 (four years ago) link

Bombed and abandoned buildings were a treasure trove for looters. After a raid on Dover, one man returned home to find his entire house stripped. Even the carpets and pipes had been taken by opportunistic thieves.

Others even looted while air raids were taking place. At the height of the air raid on Coventry in November 1940 two men were caught ransacking a wine seller's.

"I cannot think of conduct more detestable than that, during the most dreadful air raid which has ever taken place, you should be found looting," the judge told them as he jailed them for six and seven years respectively.

In Kensington, west London, a gardener was caught removing rings from four dead bodies in January 1941 while on one day in November 1940, 20 of the 56 cases at the Old Bailey were looters. Ten of these were auxiliary firemen.

There were also cases of murderers hiding their victims in damaged houses. When the bodies were discovered it was assumed they had been in the house when the bomb hit.

I think I've found the real Blitz Spirit here!

calzino, Monday, 18 May 2020 09:32 (four years ago) link

and there's some more over here! (sorry for vile racist content)

The migrants invading Britain off the Kent coast are not genuine refugees, they are economic migrants who have navigated through many safe countries to reach Britain for our welfare system. @pritipatel must not grant a single one asylum!

— Leave.EU (@LeaveEUOfficial) May 17, 2020

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 May 2020 09:34 (four years ago) link

which of us is not hearing "Don't Panic" shouted in a Norn Irish accent right now?

come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 May 2020 09:35 (four years ago) link

some top quality content itt this morning lads

this point abt the UK being a magnet keeps coming up bc it has intuitive appeal & I think the reasons why asylum seekers/refugees often travel through a bunch of other countries but make the extra effort to get to the UK are interesting and there are a few different answers and the decisions are not always beyond question

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Monday, 18 May 2020 09:52 (four years ago) link


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