You'll blow Lord Ashcroft's mind with that send it him.
― nashwan, Monday, 18 May 2020 11:39 (four years ago) link
It were right bad during the US potato famine and 40 million mericans flooded that little Atlantic island to escape famine and disease.
― calzino, Monday, 18 May 2020 11:55 (four years ago) link
Any clue as to whether Labour's policy is 'return to school only when safe' (RLB, Education) or 'i'll be sending my kids back on June 1st but the government needs to give people more confidence' (Lucy Powell, Business)?
― ShariVari, Monday, 18 May 2020 12:11 (four years ago) link
I think Lucy is doing policy on the go here.
― calzino, Monday, 18 May 2020 12:13 (four years ago) link
Great time for putting out mixed messages from the shadow cabinet. Thought these melts were all over message discipline.
― calzino, Monday, 18 May 2020 12:20 (four years ago) link
too real for the Real England thread
Whitley Bay people are now putting up privatisation conspiracy posters pic.twitter.com/Q4o8Z7QVTW— Peter Wells (@peterkwells) May 18, 2020
― nashwan, Monday, 18 May 2020 12:21 (four years ago) link
Lucy Powell isn't even in the Shadow Cabinet so I'm not sure why Sky were interviewing her and not RLB (or Ed Miliband, if they're treating it as a business/employment issue). Looks like an on-the-spot fuckup from Powell tbh.
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 May 2020 12:33 (four years ago) link
It's either that or she went out/was sent out with the deliberate intention of undermining RLB, and I'm not really sure what the benefit of that would be to the leadership given the schools issue is a disaster waiting to happen and likely to be a hugely unpopular decision from the govt.
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 May 2020 12:41 (four years ago) link
so much for all the careful media management and consistent messaging
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Monday, 18 May 2020 12:55 (four years ago) link
I saw some Tory minister - Culture Minister - getting mauled by Kay Burley, of all people, this morning over the idea that you can expect people to go back to work but not to take any risks when using public transport.
― Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Monday, 18 May 2020 12:58 (four years ago) link
Don't know the ins and outs but this is a positive step wrt to Italy immigration.
Bill to regularise undocumented migrant workers in agriculture, domestic and care sectors passed by parliament in Italy!5-6 HUNDRED THOUSAND undocumented key workers who've been keeping Italy going through the pandemic will benefit. Imagine. IMAGINE. https://t.co/6mCruslCbQ— Zoe Gardner (@ZoeJardiniere) May 14, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 May 2020 13:15 (four years ago) link
I don't know how you make the Tube safe, or trains. There's no real ventilation. You can space people apart with a 'conductor' in each car to enforce it but it's absurd - everyone's breathing the same air
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 May 2020 13:26 (four years ago) link
CON: 47% (-3)LAB: 35% (+4)LDEM: 9% (+2)GRN: 3% (-2)
via @RedfieldWilton, 15 May
whoah! the people's lawyer making some gradual headway in the polls, this donkey derby isn't a sprint race!
― calzino, Monday, 18 May 2020 14:40 (four years ago) link
Govt just announced that everyone over the age of five can now be tested if they have symptoms. Two months too late.
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 May 2020 14:46 (four years ago) link
“I said ‘can be tested’. I never said exactly when.”
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 May 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link
^ how do I shot? Googling govt pages are still on the "apply if you are an essential key worker" steez...
xp
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 18 May 2020 15:34 (four years ago) link
"If Labour had someone like Yvette Cooper..."Oh. pic.twitter.com/TtJn1KUoaz— Sam ✌️ (@samisam147) May 18, 2020
― gyac, Monday, 18 May 2020 17:34 (four years ago) link
You think these people have vanished but they've been in an office somewhere repeating the same sentence every 10 minutes for the last 5 years. Someone opened a window and the sentence made its way out into the world to meet its friends in a short BBC article
― anvil, Monday, 18 May 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link
London (subject to weekend effect caveat obv, again) reported zero deaths for a 24 hour period yesterday for the first time in months. Currently reporting 15 in last three days & highest at peak (with admin capacity constraints being more hit too) for that was 156.— FQ Coyle (@francisqcoyle) May 18, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 May 2020 18:25 (four years ago) link
Can't believe Yvette Cooper is ignoring Starmzy's leadership and waving thru some racist Tory bill
― come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 May 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link
of the various little campaign groups/slates that have been put together ahead of the portentous momentum national coordinating group, forward momentum seems the best to me
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Monday, 18 May 2020 19:30 (four years ago) link
London (subject to weekend effect caveat obv, again) reported zero deaths for a 24 hour period yesterday for the first time in months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwZAYdHcDtU
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 May 2020 20:09 (four years ago) link
i hate to be a wet blanket but since most people who die of it die about 4-6 weeks after getting it, doesn’t that great statistic indicate that whatever we decided to do about 4-6 weeks ago REALLY FUCKING WORKED?
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 May 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link
I guarantee there will be further death spikes incoming that will be proved by future epidemiologists to have a strong correlation with confusing dumb as fuck govt messaging that led to VE day rope congas, multi-generational picnics, tennis lessons, much complacency etc..
― calzino, Monday, 18 May 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link
Yvette Cooper is such a vile tory oxygen thief. What are you supposed to do with dogshit elements within the PLP who think Starmer is too left wing! I give up.
― calzino, Monday, 18 May 2020 21:52 (four years ago) link
Every time Blair is conjured out of the ether to, for example, tell the nation that schools should re-open on the 1st of June, i wonder who's paying him and whether it's just the formal donors to the Institute for Global Change (US State Dept, Pinchuk, KSA, etc) or there are more direct inducements.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 08:16 (four years ago) link
Technical difficulties explain some failures to vote. But I also understand that five MPs contacted whips to say they were going to abstain as voting against immigration bill will "put further holes in the red wall"— Diane Abbott MP (@HackneyAbbott) May 19, 2020
― gyac, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 08:51 (four years ago) link
This "air bridges" thing makes me froth, after careful consideration we'll consider which of the less sickly continentals we might let in, surely they'll be happy to reciprocate?
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 08:56 (four years ago) link
They are giving her free reign on-family reunion rights-who will be entitled to apply for what kind of permanent settlement & after how long-the entire asylum system-the future of immigration detention-NHS visas-trafficking victimsAll without seeing so much as a sketch.— Zoe Gardner (@ZoeJardiniere) May 19, 2020
Beyond the few Lab MPs chasing shadows this was always going to pass and Patel would never get a 40 seat rebellion even if all the Draconian legislation came up in Parliament in its gory detail. There are far too many racists in this country.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 09:05 (four years ago) link
there is already is a gaping hole in that red wall and it is called Sir Kier Starmer. With the current parliamentary maths it only would have been a symbolic vote against the immigration bill, if they can't even do that they should go join Ukip or the tories, where the cunts belong.
― calzino, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 09:08 (four years ago) link
I'm actually surprised that flight from Greece of 50 vulnerable people to be reunited with family already here was allowed the other week. Maybe she just didn't notice.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 09:08 (four years ago) link
Can someone from @BBCNewsPR @BBCNews explain the difference in reporting and tone? Not that I’m advocating Muslims break lockdown rules but why the double standards? pic.twitter.com/lal5QBfmq8— The Trashies (@TheTrashiesUK) May 19, 2020
UK's state broadcaster in racist double standards shocker.
― calzino, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 10:23 (four years ago) link
Full steam ahead. Immigration yesterday, the size of parliament now.
https://www.politicshome.com/thehouse/article/your-vote-matters-wherever-it-is-cast-in-the-uk
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 10:54 (four years ago) link
they can gerrymander all they want but aren't we trying to have faith that the house of cards is falling in on the tories
― imago, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 11:26 (four years ago) link
I'm fully prepared for one of those 'Cassius Longinus first said this in AD 230' gambits when it comes to metaphors for the failing Tory party. This lot are going to be around forever.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 11:35 (four years ago) link
Wonder if the clash with teacher's unions will form the basis for anti-union legislation..
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 11:41 (four years ago) link
If they're competent, this is an opportunity to completely shift the nature of British democracy and put the Singapore-with-lousy-weather plan into place for real. You need largess in public housing, great infrastructure and a relatively low cost of living to compensate for the gutting of workers' rights. etc. With almost unlimited capacity to borrow and a massive labour pool, they're never going to be in a better position to construct an appropriate carrot to go along with the stick. I'm not sure they've got the vision or ability to deliver it, though.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:04 (four years ago) link
competent you say?
― come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:06 (four years ago) link
cabinet ministers trying to shift blame onto the scientific advisers today, you love to see it from the safety of quarantine
― come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:07 (four years ago) link
They'll be milking it for all its worth, for sure.
― Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:08 (four years ago) link
Yes, and I noticed the A Scientist Did It And Ran Away message this morning.
― Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:09 (four years ago) link
let's hope they haven't been stockpiling teachers
― come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:09 (four years ago) link
I'm not sure that Tory MPs are exactly united behind that vision either, there are still substantial numbers of fiscal conservatives on the benches to whom that would be anathema.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:11 (four years ago) link
Tory incompetence is a good opportunity for the Labour movement.
If they are competent.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:16 (four years ago) link
Someone, somewhere, be competent please!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQj1PzTUwAAz7iV.jpg
― come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:19 (four years ago) link
I think SV has accurately described what Cummings is going for, and perhaps Johnson as well with this "low-tax, One Nation conservatism" thing. It feeds into what I was saying last week about an emerging tendency on the right, distinct from the Osbourne approach. On the other hand I'd be sceptical that, say, the Treasury-as-institution is especially onboard with the idea of almost limitless capacity to borrow and that's a whole other battle.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:20 (four years ago) link
I'm not sure that the Tories are really going to build lots of public housing. They might even fuck up infrastructure.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:23 (four years ago) link
This is probably a decent guide to what is planned. This Liam Booth-Smith guy was the CEO of a think-tank that has coined the (horrible) term 'neo-localism' and this appears to involve a load of Tory MPs. It may not be social housing in the way that we have typically understood it but they are absolutely going to try and split the Labour vote on lower-cost housing, particularly outside big cities.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:42 (four years ago) link
Covid-19 has probably derailed this now but the new Tory 'project' has for some time looked like an exercise in utopia-building that is highly exclusionary to certain groups of people - specifically those born outside the UK but probably other groups as well - and with workers' rights shredded.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:47 (four years ago) link