love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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i've said it before here but i think the global economic disaster whose consequences are waiting patiently in the wings is going to make lockdown politics look extremely basic and easy to manage.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 29 May 2020 15:16 (four years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/29/coronavirus-symptoms-not-isolating-sage-track-and-trace

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to your Second Spike. Please make yourselves comfortable. Your Track & Trace operative will be with you soon*.

*lol

some infected evening (Matt #2), Friday, 29 May 2020 15:21 (four years ago) link

"The main No 10 representative was Ben Warner, a data scientist recruited to Downing Street after running the Conservatives’ election campaign model. He previously worked with Dominic Cummings on the Vote Leave campaign."

🤔

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Friday, 29 May 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link

“flash points tend to happen where there is a perceived lack of equity”

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Friday, 29 May 2020 15:30 (four years ago) link

"2.9m 'British nationals (overseas)' in Hong Kong"

I presume this will be all about inviting capital flight from Hong Kong into London and have seen that 2.9m boiled down to 300000 BNO's somewhere else.

calzino, Friday, 29 May 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link

Can't see people observing distancing at the beach and the like, the government opening things up and most damming of all the inability to get track & trace running means we'll surely have an outbreak.

The question is surely when rather than if at this point.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 May 2020 16:33 (four years ago) link

and given that, will they have the ability to go "backwards" and tighten restrictions again? Either in terms of credibility or mindset. Because I can see them trying to style it out until hospitals really are overwhelmed

stet, Friday, 29 May 2020 16:36 (four years ago) link

they don't give a shit

plax (ico), Friday, 29 May 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link

^^^

What fash heil is this? (wins), Friday, 29 May 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link

By itself the idea of going outside and seeing ppl isn’t horrendous, it’s the loss of whatever grip on clear messaging they ever had (which was close enough to nil) plus the fact that tracing is gonna fall on its arse plus we can all go to primark and schools are opening... just feels like a disaster about to happen. I was thinking there was no way pubs reopen this summer but I wonder now

On the other hand, just use common sense end of 🤣🤣

What fash heil is this? (wins), Friday, 29 May 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link

Tho it kills me to say it reopening pubs in the height of summer will be a recipe for mayhem

Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 May 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link

I still think they prob won’t

What fash heil is this? (wins), Friday, 29 May 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link

not sure if the govt has quite worked out the details of this yet but it looks like they might be allowing all 2.9 million HKers to come to the UK

this will split the brexit crew nicely

Update on new rules for Hongkongers seeking to live/work in UK: Home Office appears to confirm that if China presses on with security law, *all* 2.9m 'British nationals (overseas)' in Hong Kong will be allowed to come to UK whether or not they *currently* hold a BN(O) passport.

— Hugo Gye (@HugoGye) May 29, 2020

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Friday, 29 May 2020 16:59 (four years ago) link

But I worry about them doing it with “guidance” instead of the rules they have elsewhere and it inevitably becoming a free-for-all xp

What fash heil is this? (wins), Friday, 29 May 2020 17:00 (four years ago) link

Wouldn't put anything past this lot now, if the shops don't kill anybody who matters I can see some sort of pub opening before the end of July

Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 May 2020 17:00 (four years ago) link

Xp This is surprisingly great, what’s the catch?

stet, Friday, 29 May 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link

oh, I see xyzzz and calz - the only two ppl I have blocked! what are the odds? - have posted about it, carry on

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Friday, 29 May 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link

This is surprisingly great, what’s the catch?

UK moving further alongside the US in tensions against China, I guess? Still unequivocally a good thing tho.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 29 May 2020 17:31 (four years ago) link

The government might want to avoid a second spike on the basis that a really bad outbreak would obliterate much of their remaining credibility especially if Cummings remains in position. Which makes me think they've been floating the idea of regional lockdowns for a reason.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 May 2020 17:33 (four years ago) link

Gives London the opportunity to undermine another world financial centre as well.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 May 2020 17:33 (four years ago) link

Scotland's minor relaxation of contact rules has resulted in dozens of households congregating at the bottom of my road and all their kids running around together with not a 2m gap to be seen. If that's what it's like here in a community broadly supporting of the Scottish government it'll be a nightmare in Tory/Orange heartlands.

Oh, and my son's friend, whose father has just recovered from the rona, is having a big house party tonight (my son isn't going).

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Friday, 29 May 2020 18:21 (four years ago) link

ogmor - hope you have learnt your lesson.

So we are at + 8k infections a week. The government may not give a shit but should we get a 2nd spike there will be enough people not going out and spending to tank the economy further?

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 May 2020 18:30 (four years ago) link

If the infection rate stays the same it won't *look* like a spike, so much as the unfortunate but necessary sacrifice we all have to make, we're all in this together blah blah. Less of a surge than a constant swell, is what I'm saying - a slow-motion tsunami.

some infected evening (Matt #2), Friday, 29 May 2020 19:00 (four years ago) link

Cummings is such a gift to Cockwomble Twitter: yet another means of avoiding structural analysis, protecting their own class interests and very public virtue signalling.

They could simply have voted Labour in 2019, of course.

— paul longue durée ewart (@paulewart23) May 29, 2020

posting this bc I don't want to be the only one with the phrase 'cockwomble twitter' lodged in my brain

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Friday, 29 May 2020 19:07 (four years ago) link

It is an excellent coinage

Mambo Number 5 was a number one jam (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 May 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link

what a brainfarting thundercunt cumcums is!

imago, Friday, 29 May 2020 19:10 (four years ago) link

Matt 2 OTM according to this. 80 deaths a day to become background noise:

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-scientist-who-advises-government-warns-lockdown-being-eased-too-soon-11996946

stet, Friday, 29 May 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link

the stench of brooker and iannucci is like what you get exhuming a recent mass killing site of rotting cockwombles, next to a maggot farm on a hot summer's day. With a nice flask of smelly warm urine for refreshment.

calzino, Friday, 29 May 2020 19:28 (four years ago) link

And even 80 deaths a day, averaged from July to the end of the year, is another 15,000 or so. Except it'd be more. Plus the excess deaths figure will become clearer, and that HAS to be added to the total death toll. So we could conceivably be at 100,000 deaths by 2021, just in time for the much-desired no deal crashout of the EU. *waves tattered flag*

cockwombling xpost

some infected evening (Matt #2), Friday, 29 May 2020 19:42 (four years ago) link

I’ve seen this letter on our local FB page from the Totnes Tory MP who has obviously forgotten to remove the cut and paste instructions from Tory party Central office. Just shows how uncaring they are - do feel free to RT #BorisJohnsonMustGo #SackDom pic.twitter.com/Nchf3XQwq2

— georgie #revokeA50 #FBPE (@getback2thebeat) May 29, 2020

gyac, Friday, 29 May 2020 21:30 (four years ago) link

graph on p17 of this - the yellow line has a pretty severe uptick this week
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/888254/COVID19_Epidemiological_Summary_w22_Final.pdf

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Friday, 29 May 2020 21:50 (four years ago) link

Scotland's minor relaxation of contact rules...
― BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Friday, May 29, 2020 6:21 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

cycled through pollok park earlier - lots of young team out cradling empty bottles of MD2020, plus several groups > 8 having BBQs, and one group playing touch (!) rugby

||||||||, Friday, 29 May 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link

But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools looking for some 2020 vision

calzino, Friday, 29 May 2020 22:12 (four years ago) link

Never discount local laziness from local mps! xxp

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 30 May 2020 09:01 (three years ago) link

That London uptick in the graph Stevie talked about is worrying, let's see it it continues. I guess it might be a correction of the data as well?

Test and trace article would be terrifying if anyone was actually using the app and I'm not seeing much evidence that anyone has actually downloaded it.

Matt DC, Saturday, 30 May 2020 09:27 (three years ago) link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-52858392

Judging by this, some of the scientists are very nervous and in mutinous mood. We haven't seen a high profile resignation on scientific/political grounds yet and one has to be coming.

Matt DC, Saturday, 30 May 2020 09:32 (three years ago) link

the FBPEs were all having a massive pop at Edmunds last week after a misleadingly edited clip of his appearance against Pueyo on C4 did the rounds. They've shut up now, weirdly.

stet, Saturday, 30 May 2020 09:45 (three years ago) link

Delightful final para in this otherwise deeply depressing article https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-teflon-dom-sets-his-sights-on-one-thing-only-brexit-bw6cbf8cs

Piedie Gimbel, Saturday, 30 May 2020 11:50 (three years ago) link

May be paywalled so:
“He is the person who pushed for a £20,000 fine if you broke the border quarantine, who himself drove up to Durham. It’s like The Wizard of Oz — everyone has just pulled back the curtain and it’s like some bald bloke in shit clothes.”

Piedie Gimbel, Saturday, 30 May 2020 11:52 (three years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/30/boris-johnsons-test-and-tracing-system-britain-lockdown?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1590816367

Wednesday came (day four) and we got a message assuring us that we were getting paid – and to please wait. The comments came in “LOL getting paid by the government for this”, and “they’ll be clapping for us on Thursday”. It went downhill from there, and people started writing derogatory remarks. Others suggested we use the company phone system to practise calling each other on our computers. Again, supervisors didn’t interject or offer any guidance. One person set up a Facebook group (for the people in out chat) and called it Panic Room.

inside the ‘world-beating' track and trace system that is going to be a big success for the rona.

calzino, Saturday, 30 May 2020 12:14 (three years ago) link

Rona FC just signed Mo Salah

calzino, Saturday, 30 May 2020 12:31 (three years ago) link

Tonight’s Opinium/Observer poll: 😯

— James Endersby (@JamesEnders) May 30, 2020

I get the feeling the melt knight of the realm will have some happier reading than boris tonight.

calzino, Saturday, 30 May 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link

can we start polling how many people want BoJo's head on a spike, the only poll that matters?

Mambo Number 5 was a number one jam (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 May 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link

gnna need a bigger spike

mark s, Saturday, 30 May 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

Oh it's coming.

Matt DC, Saturday, 30 May 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

by the time Starmer loses to Johnson

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 10:28 (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

imago, Saturday, 30 May 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link

;)

imago, Saturday, 30 May 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link

The next United Kingdom general election is scheduled to be held on Thursday 2 May 2024.

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