love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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National Insurance has never functioned like insurance since the day of its inception btw

hip posts without flaggadocio (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 June 2020 13:22 (three years ago) link

when chakrabortty quotes voltaire at the end there saying "you really can't retreat to your garden" it just made me think that's exactly what's going to happen

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Friday, 5 June 2020 13:22 (three years ago) link

Well even just bone-simple car insurance doesn't 'pay out what you pay in'. Once you're covered by a policy it pays out, even if you just bought your first car last month.

I understand the issue with the quote but in context it seems clear that the point he was making is that the government is letting people down by chizzing them out of what ought to be their due, which seems reasonable enough.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 June 2020 13:30 (three years ago) link

I guess I am psyched to see how ppl who supported the starmzian pivot to a second ref will do telling leave voters who abstained in 19 about the importance of voting

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Friday, 5 June 2020 13:41 (three years ago) link

If the argument is to make the case for welfare both more accessible and more appealing to those on higher incomes, then say so. Don’t wink at the deserving/undeserving poor idea that was so successful for the Tories. The reason this country has children going hungry today has its roots in much of the ideology that the benefits system should be difficult to navigate and punitive towards those who need it most.

gyac, Friday, 5 June 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link

This too seems difficult to refute

why should a recently unemployed worker in wales be entitled to less than an english worker in the home counties who has had state economic policy (investment, interest rates, protecting industries in recessions) catered for around their needs for decades?

— ▀▀▀▀▀▀ (@immolations) June 5, 2020

gyac, Friday, 5 June 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link

I tell that unemployed Welsh worker to vote for the red donkey anyway.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 June 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link

If you view the main purpose of unemployment benefit to be providing a soft landing that lets you maintain your obligations / standard of living as far as possible after you've lost your job, until you've found a new one, it doesn't seem that hard of a question to answer. Whether that's the appropriate way to view it is the harder part.

ShariVari, Friday, 5 June 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52933804

Sizeable margin for error here but... this seems good?

Matt DC, Friday, 5 June 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link

it seems good but we've only just charged pluckily out of lockdown so i'll wait a couple of weeks

imago, Friday, 5 June 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link

That is good - but also quite a long way from the '4000 cases a day across Britain target' that iirc they wanted to get to before the easing of lockdown.

ShariVari, Friday, 5 June 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link

The bit that's simultaneously reassuring and terrifying is the part about only 29% of people returning a positive test having any symptoms at the time.

Matt DC, Friday, 5 June 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link

That's 21% lower than I was expecting

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 5 June 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link

Good news message from Emma @Underthecranes https://t.co/SpdP12cRWc

— Michael Rosen (@MichaelRosenYes) June 5, 2020

calzino, Friday, 5 June 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link

I feel like I say this at least once a day, but I ❤️ Zarah.

Speaking to the Women and Equalities Select Committee in April, Liz Truss brought into question the rights of trans women and young people.

I've written to her for answers on the Government's plans for the reform of the Gender Recognition Act and trans healthcare. pic.twitter.com/Obx8jTIe7x

— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) June 5, 2020



And that’s great news about Michael Rosen, but fucking hell nonetheless.

gyac, Friday, 5 June 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

Q. When will UK zoos be able to reopen?

Hancock says this is close to his heart because he comes from Chester and knows Chester Zoo “extremely well”.

But they must be reopened in a safe way, he adds.

Boris the Spreader (NickB), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link

Exclusive: Tory MP attended lockdown barbecue with journalists - Spectator deputy editor, Freddy Gray, and Isabel Oakeshott - as well as Richard Tice, Brexit party chairman https://t.co/IZ9POz4tWn

— Claire Phipps (@Claire_Phipps) June 5, 2020

Times execs also reportedtly v. much At It

stet, Friday, 5 June 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

Q. When will UK zoos be able to reopen?

Yes, these questions from members of the public are always so salient and probing.

Captain Beeftweet (Tom D.), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

open the zoos, free the prisoners

hip posts without flaggadocio (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

... 'cos that's a jubilee

(Dave Greenfield RIP)

Captain Beeftweet (Tom D.), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

Hancock has been known to throw turds at the gbp occasionally and publicly prance about with a visible erection next a female of the species, wouldn't doubt his suitability to be housed there!

calzino, Friday, 5 June 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

at Chester Zoo I meant!

calzino, Friday, 5 June 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

lions on the street of Chester would add to the Roman ambience imo

hip posts without flaggadocio (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 June 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link

So does Bob Seely get punished here or can they all just do what they like now?

dominance and transmission (Matt #2), Friday, 5 June 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link

tbh getting into a "ban every naughty MP who broke the lockdown" was always a route towards tit for tat madness

hip posts without flaggadocio (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 June 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link

best neighbours:

https://i.ibb.co/4JCCfSb/IMG-20200605-113010.jpg

Boris the Spreader (NickB), Friday, 5 June 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

<3 <3 <3

hip posts without flaggadocio (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 June 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

they also might have blood on their hands from clapping so ferociously, amirite?

calzino, Friday, 5 June 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link

357 deaths today, probably more than all of Europe combined again.

calzino, Friday, 5 June 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

WE'RE NUMBER 1 WE'RE NUMBER 1

hip posts without flaggadocio (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 June 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link

Read 'em and weep, Europeans... errrr

Captain Beeftweet (Tom D.), Friday, 5 June 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

The government has extended the ban on eviction hearings for renters until 23 August (it was 25 June). Good to see, as I mentioned in my show last night, it needed doing as mortgage repossessions are already barred until 31 Oct. Full info https://t.co/upojF9zVvD

— Martin Lewis (@MartinSLewis) June 5, 2020

xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 June 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

EXCLUSIVE in tomorrow’s Daily Telegraph

Former Labour MP Frank Field set to become peer after Jeremy Corbyn's three candidates blocked https://t.co/qMJP0iTy7e

— Christopher Hope📝 (@christopherhope) June 5, 2020

quite appropriate really, living in an age of death and with a dead opposition party.

calzino, Friday, 5 June 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link

not that I'm complaining about the ring-wraiths blocking Tom Watson of course!

calzino, Friday, 5 June 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

So he 'left' Parliament at the last general election did he? Here I was thinking that, despite holding the seat for 40 years, his massive personal vote wasn't sufficient to stop him losing the seat by 17,705 votes.

Captain Beeftweet (Tom D.), Friday, 5 June 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link

I've got a suggestion for his title, Lord Cunt.

Captain Beeftweet (Tom D.), Friday, 5 June 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link

that title could still do with being boiled down to its essence tbf, just make it a bit shorter!

calzino, Friday, 5 June 2020 22:10 (three years ago) link

tbh getting into a "ban every naughty MP who broke the lockdown" was always a route towards tit for tat madness

Fuck it, most MPs deserve to get kicked out, can't do any harm.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 6 June 2020 11:23 (three years ago) link

if you chucked a grenade into their funhouse, whichever ever side it lands in there is only a very slight chance of taking out a human!

calzino, Saturday, 6 June 2020 11:39 (three years ago) link

There's some speculation right now that the R rate is now over 1 in the North West.

Matt DC, Saturday, 6 June 2020 12:46 (three years ago) link

Aaaah!

congrats to niccy sturgeon for successfully puttin everyone who reads this off shaggin for life x pic.twitter.com/hAxFX5bk4j

— erika (@erikatkatcat) June 6, 2020

gyac, Saturday, 6 June 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link

Poll needed!

dominance and transmission (Matt #2), Saturday, 6 June 2020 13:00 (three years ago) link

I really want to see Johnson reading that list out in a sonorous voice, flanked by Whitty and Vallance.

dominance and transmission (Matt #2), Saturday, 6 June 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link

won't brb. I'm off to join a monastery for the rest of my life!

calzino, Saturday, 6 June 2020 13:02 (three years ago) link

t/s: saliva or poo

Prosecutor Bradley Tankerton (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 6 June 2020 13:07 (three years ago) link

chief political correspondent from the scottish sun: “first minister, when can I lick around the anus?”

||||||||, Saturday, 6 June 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

chris mustn't

conrad, Saturday, 6 June 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

I believe rimming is Phase 3 of the lockdown routemap xp

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Saturday, 6 June 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link

NEW @Survation Poll – UK General Election Voting Intention:
CON 41% (-4)
LAB 39% (+5)
LD 7% (-1)
GRN 4% (-)
SNP 4% (-)
BXP 1% (+1)
OTH 4% (-)
1018 respondents, fieldwork 3 June 2020. Changes w/ 22-26 May 2020.https://t.co/62TcP0gIzi pic.twitter.com/eGI4eqnYlT

— Survation. (@Survation) June 6, 2020

stet, Saturday, 6 June 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

lol Brexit Party cunts

hip posts without flaggadocio (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 June 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link


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