love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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Going to tell my grandchildren this was Sir Keir Starmer QC pic.twitter.com/FfPA3ubdDM

— Juliet. (@zinovievletter) June 14, 2020

calzino, Sunday, 14 June 2020 21:11 (three years ago) link

Good points in that piece about the Left needing to exercise some long-unused muscles here. The stats are hard to comprehend, and just a few months awahy

stet, Sunday, 14 June 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link

the Left are dead in the parliamentary democracy game, wouldn't judge anyone retreating to their garden right now. The game is finished.

calzino, Sunday, 14 June 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

What I was trying to say on my phone earlier was that the RLB campaign should have been run like a desperate factional war, because that was what it was. But it was run in a respectful "Labour family" bullshit way, even though Starmer was his running his campaign on a war footing.

calzino, Sunday, 14 June 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link

Anyone invoking family in a professional setting is fixing to rinse the other family members.

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 14 June 2020 21:41 (three years ago) link

even if RLB's campaign should had targeted the discrepancies between his bullshit video and his DPP record it might not have been enough, but at least they should have made a fist of it ffs!

calzino, Sunday, 14 June 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link

Matt Zarb-Cousin is to blame there I think

calzino, Sunday, 14 June 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

Corbyn put loads of distance between himself and Yvette cooper and pwned her in the debates on austerity and made her look wooden and rather ridiculous. There weren't any proper debates about what Starmer represents, it was just purely apolitical and showboating bullshit.

calzino, Sunday, 14 June 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link

there isn't really a debate on Starmer, he is quite simply a reconstructed Tory cunt. But his campaign team did a cracking job on avoiding that kind of awkward scrutiny and keeping it about him being male and not a lefty!

calzino, Sunday, 14 June 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link

sorry I meant barely reconstructed Tory cunt.

calzino, Sunday, 14 June 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link

An Open Letter to all MPs in Parliament...#maketheUturn

Please retweet and tag your local MPs pic.twitter.com/GXuUxFJdcv

— Marcus Rashford (@MarcusRashford) June 14, 2020

rumpy riser (ogmor), Sunday, 14 June 2020 23:36 (three years ago) link

^
And Big McD has just retweeted it too, and given it his full support. Starmer could learn a lot from him.

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 14 June 2020 23:50 (three years ago) link

hope some of his property developer, shy tory, older colleagues associated with this great club agree with him here!

calzino, Sunday, 14 June 2020 23:51 (three years ago) link

damn

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 14 June 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link

That's brilliant from Rashford.

Meanwhile - the UK is now in the deepest lockdown in Europe.

I've mapped Google's excellent mobility data. It shows changing workplace activity levels across Europe in relation to a normal working day
The U.K. lockdown is deepest of major economies pic.twitter.com/LqJ8CtPZtX

— Dan Cookson (@danc00ks0n) June 14, 2020

(Believe me I'm as surprised as you are)

Matt DC, Monday, 15 June 2020 08:02 (three years ago) link

Work it
Make it
Do it
Makes us
Harder
Better
Faster
Stronger
Deeper
Harder
Better
Faster
Stronger
Deeper

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 15 June 2020 08:04 (three years ago) link

The animated version does suggest that something is extremely up with the data.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ql9nnxf020ihap3/COVID%20Lockdown%20EU%20Map%205th%20June%20v2%20mp4.mp4?dl=0

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 15 June 2020 08:10 (three years ago) link

Marcus Rashford for Labour leader.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 June 2020 09:08 (three years ago) link

lol I cycled through Notting hill yesterday and Portobello road was mobbed with young white people

plax (ico), Monday, 15 June 2020 09:11 (three years ago) link

it seems slightly barmy that the UK govt can't safely get the schools out of lockdown but the bookies are all open again today.

calzino, Monday, 15 June 2020 09:23 (three years ago) link

Credit where its due, Lammy's "why haven't you implemented all this shit that's already been recommended?" has been good.

Matt DC, Monday, 15 June 2020 09:25 (three years ago) link

it seems slightly barmy that online bookies have been allowed to relentlessly target people stuck in the house with too much time on their hands thru constant tv advertising but i realise i am a joyless calvinist

comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 June 2020 09:26 (three years ago) link

What have people been betting on all this time aside from a couple of weeks of Bundesliga? I'm guessing mostly online poker and the Belarussian league?

Matt DC, Monday, 15 June 2020 09:28 (three years ago) link

a gambling addict will literally bet on two flies walking up a window, there is always something to bet on, even at the peak of the lockdown. Numbers games, Albanian netball, Moldovan welly throwing..etc

calzino, Monday, 15 June 2020 09:31 (three years ago) link

South African Horseracing went on completely uninterrupted i think.

calzino, Monday, 15 June 2020 09:33 (three years ago) link

A fair proportion of betting is virtual now - so computer-generated horse races or online FIFA tournaments.

Belarus, Costa Rica, Kyrgyzstan and others have also had actual football.

ShariVari, Monday, 15 June 2020 09:34 (three years ago) link

I remember when the bookies started doing virtual horseracing like Portman Park and thinking it was ridiculous and would never last. it still seems to be going strong. I always thought gamblers would be too suspicious of betting events where the outcome is a computer generated result.

calzino, Monday, 15 June 2020 09:40 (three years ago) link

noticed a couple of adverts this week encouraging people to bet on the irl horses which is not something bookies generally feel the need to do, there is a definite predatory focus on people's missing real sports events

comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 June 2020 09:40 (three years ago) link

that said yeah willingness to bet on Greyhound Simulator 2020 should be seen as prima facie evidence of a gambling addiction

comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 June 2020 09:42 (three years ago) link

scenes from the high street are unreal. I get that Primark isn't online, people can shop only in places they can afford and children will have outgrown stuff in three months... But Sports Direct being a destination shop when Mike Ashley treated his staff with such contempt at the start of lockdown, people just aren't going to change their habits.

boxedjoy, Monday, 15 June 2020 09:51 (three years ago) link

decisions are mostly about prices, as you say

comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 June 2020 09:52 (three years ago) link

when my one of my old friends was still a betting shop manager he used to say that without the FOBT's his shop wasn't making much profit. So basically the main justification for opening High Street bookies is so some of the most extreme gambling addicts can get back on them wretched machines. I mean they can do the same online, but often the punters addicted to roulette machines are amongst the poorest and if you've maxed out your overdraft or credit card then that is the only show in town for them.

calzino, Monday, 15 June 2020 10:08 (three years ago) link

yeah, again the fact that those things are allowed to exist is a national shame, nobody is playing them who doesn't have a problem

comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 June 2020 10:10 (three years ago) link

18 bookies on every town centre high street is another great New Labour legacy, wankers.

calzino, Monday, 15 June 2020 10:15 (three years ago) link

It's still astonishes me that we had a nationalised bookies until 2011. (Surely also the least controversial privatisation of all time?)

Matt DC, Monday, 15 June 2020 10:19 (three years ago) link

It's pretty funny and I didn't know it was still nationalised as late as 2011

calzino, Monday, 15 June 2020 10:24 (three years ago) link

I worked as a betting shop manager for an independent chain. Before the planning laws were liberalised they were turning down seven figure offers from the big three for little shithole bookies that didn't even have toilets in places like Hebden Bridge and Marsden and overnight they became worth the price of the bricks and mortar!

calzino, Monday, 15 June 2020 10:27 (three years ago) link

i think the Tote was an anomaly because most of the money it took was on track as far as i remember and it recirculated most of it back into the industry

comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 June 2020 10:29 (three years ago) link

now we have a national lottery which is effectively a PFI Tote and it's apparently used to keep people alive so i'm not sure we've progressed

comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 June 2020 10:30 (three years ago) link

it's only fair that disabled people should have to win their mobility scooters

calzino, Monday, 15 June 2020 10:49 (three years ago) link

In statue news, 16-pinter Essex bloke gets 2 weeks in pokey for pissing near Palmer. Probably would have been 2 years if his wazz-aim had been better, lucky fella.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/15/man-given-14-day-jail-sentence-for-urinating-near-pc-keith-palmer-plaque

bring wayne shorter to the slaughter (Matt #2), Monday, 15 June 2020 11:45 (three years ago) link

a gambling addict will literally bet on two flies walking up a window, there is always something to bet on, even at the peak of the lockdown. Numbers games, Albanian netball, Moldovan welly throwing..etc

― calzino, Monday, 15 June 2020 10:31 (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Early in lockdown I decided to run down the £20 or so in my online account by betting on whatever was available in play - I migrated from table tennis to esports (FIFA, CS:GO) and finally a chess tournament that was abandoned midway. My win rate was much higher betting on those than it ever was with regular old fitba.

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Monday, 15 June 2020 11:48 (three years ago) link

confessions of a sad bastard: I do the Irish, French, Spanish, German and New York lotteries on a regular basis.

calzino, Monday, 15 June 2020 11:59 (three years ago) link

I'd assume that bookies are raking it, the usual suspects might be reduced, but there's a captive audience without much to do, some of whom would be averse to the general ambience of the bricks and mortar places. There's weird effects in the stock market (the US one at least) from people with apps day-trading.

We'd noticed one day that 70% of the ads we saw in live TV were bookies saying "careful now with the gambling! Call this number or go to this website if you have a problem!" - we were wondering if legislation was coming in, or if someone had had a quiet word to say "We've noticed you've got a new audience, a bit of care here could stop the boot coming down". We were watching Challenge, mind you, that might be a closer fit for some of the new gamblers?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 15 June 2020 11:59 (three years ago) link

my friend and his brother have spent most of this time in their garden, which they can socialise with their two neighbours. I went around last weekend and they have a roulette wheel and table made up.

Ste, Monday, 15 June 2020 12:27 (three years ago) link

and yeah, they are compulsive gamblers (to the point that one of the brothers was banned from Betfred for a year)

Ste, Monday, 15 June 2020 12:28 (three years ago) link

A friend of my wife's has constructed an open-air pub in the back garden, complete with a bell and those cardboard things of scampi fries and peanuts that you hang on the wall. Until this year building a pub in your own garden was 100% the preserve of washed-up football managers and ageing rock stars but having seen the photo it looks like utopia.

Matt DC, Monday, 15 June 2020 12:58 (three years ago) link

Scampi fries are praxis

gyac, Monday, 15 June 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link

correct

Prosecutor Bradley Tankerton (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 June 2020 13:19 (three years ago) link


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