love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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Cops are such tools

Ivan Scampo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link

this is why i'm staying in Hull

Ivan Scampo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

Might have to live there...one day

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

Oh and:

BREAKING Cecil Rhodes statue will be taken down at Oxford's Oriel College #RhodesMustFall #RhodesWillFall

— Camilla Tominey (@CamillaTominey) June 17, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link

Honestly surprised by that given oriel’s rep.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

wow! you'll be able to see the piss boiling from satellite pics.

calzino, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

Will Labour keep to its 2019 election campaign pledge of free broadband for all?

β€œI was sceptical in that campaign” says MP Stella Creasy β€œThere are ways we can deal with the pricing”#Politics Live https://t.co/QXHpQBgJgq pic.twitter.com/Jw2ghpiXtG

— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) June 17, 2020

Stella didn't approve of the free broadband policy under Corbyn and seems to think there was any inequality in terms of access to it, pre-Rona, another fucking clueless melt.

calzino, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

*wasn't*

calzino, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

just admit that you let factionalism distort what was a very good policy by your party leader, rather than talking a load of convoluted crap to cover your embarrassment.

calzino, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

lol just turned om r4 and the first thing i heard was the unmistakable voice of Matthew Parris saying "Rhodes was a bit of a rascal"

calzino, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 21:17 (three years ago) link

A rascal without a statue to him, read it and weep, Parris.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link

i don't understand how that is even a question now given that labour can't really do anything until at least 2024

koogs, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link

^ re free broadband

koogs, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link

I know, nothing of what the very conservative and cautious leader of the opposition nor any of their MP's says publicly has any significance, I just keep forgetting. Any ideas of offering anything radically different to what we currently have to the electorate is an exercise in futility..

calzino, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

it's a quite a pertinent question because she publicly dismissed the free broadband policy of Corbyn's during an election campaign, but is now saying it is a good policy.

calzino, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link

but here is me feigning outrage that a hypocritical melt tosser like her doesn't seem to have any kind of moral consistency or ideological beliefs underpinning her "politics".

calzino, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link

it's easy media money to just get the new shadow cabinet to distance from the previous one by saying their ideas are bad and they should feel bad

nashwan, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link

she didn't make it into the current shadow cabinet through recently having a child I think, but she would have been odds on in there otherwise. probably a stalking horse for RLB's education brief going by the way she has been undermined by Reeves recently.

calzino, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 22:18 (three years ago) link

It is factional bullshit to some extent - it nearly always is - but offering free broadband on pre-existing networks to deprived parents with school age children during a school-closing pandemic is not the same policy as building a national broadband network and offering it to everyone in the country for free.

Why she couldn't just say that instead of spinning out multiple rhetorical contortions is beyond me.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link

because she's a melt is the simple answer. Oh right the universalism of nationalised broadband was bad then was it? lol!

calzino, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link

sorry if I'm being rude Matt, but she's Tory slime to the core imo

calzino, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 22:42 (three years ago) link

that was a brilliant policy idea and making out you could oppose it previously because there wasn't a global pandemic is just nonsense.

calzino, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 22:44 (three years ago) link

broadband inequality existed long before the Rona, she's a fucking wanker and I can't take anything she says in good faith, like about 90% of Labour MP's.

calzino, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link

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Also on the #peston team tonight is Labour MP and Shadow Minister for Domestic Violence @jessphillips, a left-winger who can also cut inside and play a more central role if needed#Peston | πŸ“Ί @itv | πŸ’» @itvpeston | π—Ÿπ—œπ—©π—˜ 𝗔𝗧 πŸ­πŸ¬πŸ°πŸ±π—£π—  pic.twitter.com/TmneuNivVI

— Peston (@itvpeston) June 17, 2020

I'm not watching Peston rn, but now apparently now Jess Phillips can talk freely over RLB's education brief. She will be gone by autumn.

calzino, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link

β€œI want the children to go back to school now.”
@JessPhillips tells @Peston the government should have been planning for schools to reopen from the moment they closed. #Peston pic.twitter.com/giPYoF6olh

— Peston (@itvpeston) June 17, 2020

jess phillips being a moron on pesto retweeted by Labour Press just to diminish RLB a little bit more.

calzino, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 23:13 (three years ago) link

we are still on around 200 deaths a day and this mumsnet karen is partly blaming the schools without being very specific on the govt's failures, and she is deemed better to speak on this than RLB. Fuck this party.

calzino, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 23:22 (three years ago) link

β€œTaking the knee” began in 2016 with American athletes refusing to stand for US national anthem. They were protesting police brutality and racism. But @DominicRaab thinks it comes from Game of Thrones!!! https://t.co/9spuAqWSQV

— Diane Abbott MP (@HackneyAbbott) June 18, 2020

scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 18 June 2020 09:27 (three years ago) link

we always knew this tory cabinet is made up of the absolute dregs of their party, but they can still occasionally take you by surprise by plumbing new depths of stupidity.

calzino, Thursday, 18 June 2020 09:33 (three years ago) link

wow

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 18 June 2020 09:34 (three years ago) link

That's not even the most stupid - it's entry level now.

Mark G, Thursday, 18 June 2020 10:00 (three years ago) link

That's genuinely bizarre about Raab.

I agree that Creasy has turned out bad. I think I actually voted for her in the 2015 Deputy Leadership contest or something.

Apart from anything else it's dire that Phillips is billed as 'a left-winger who can cut inside'.

I agree about the awfulness of these people and their disdain for RLB, a person with vastly more value and integrity.

the pinefox, Thursday, 18 June 2020 10:04 (three years ago) link

I watched a Novara Media debate between two factions of Momentum. It became somewhat bitter.

Two factions of an organization that has little influence on Labour, which has little influence on the UK.

I suppose it was Borges on the Falklands all over again.

the pinefox, Thursday, 18 June 2020 10:06 (three years ago) link

Was Jess Phillips invited on to talk about schools or was she just invited on to be Jess Phillips and ended up talking about schools? She's not really a message discipline kind of person.

Matt DC, Thursday, 18 June 2020 10:08 (three years ago) link

she's starts going into a beef she has with her local school on television, that is certainly not message discipline. She needs to ditch politics and get her own C5 Speak To the Manager show or something because she is terrible at this game.

calzino, Thursday, 18 June 2020 10:11 (three years ago) link

Does Pesto ever describe his guests as 'right-wingers'? Guess I'll never know.

nashwan, Thursday, 18 June 2020 10:13 (three years ago) link

It is good that JP ran for Labour leader and was humiliated and rubbish.

Nashwan is correct that leftists are described as such, right-wingers are viewed as normal.

the pinefox, Thursday, 18 June 2020 10:13 (three years ago) link

That's genuinely bizarre about Raab.

I don't think he's being stupid, he's signalling that it isn't something important enough for him to bother with. Same with Hancock yesterday although he at least has other very important things to worry about right now.

Matt DC, Thursday, 18 June 2020 10:49 (three years ago) link

see also "who even are you?", "I hadn't heard of Marcus Rashford campaign", etc etc

stet, Thursday, 18 June 2020 10:52 (three years ago) link

I can certainly believe Hancock is stupid, Raab's 'error' seems deliberate to me.

Rapsputin (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 June 2020 10:54 (three years ago) link

Even if he is just being stupid, it's evidence that neither Cummings nor anyone else in their comms team been on the line saying "these are the details, make sure you get them right".

Matt DC, Thursday, 18 June 2020 10:56 (three years ago) link

Ignorance and/or contempt probably plays better with particular groups of voters right now.

Matt DC, Thursday, 18 June 2020 10:56 (three years ago) link

people who talk about history but don't know any history, people who think all football fans are working class white supremacists, people with billions riding on a hard Brexit, it's an exclusive crowd

Ivan Scampo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 June 2020 10:58 (three years ago) link

He went on: β€œI take the knee for two people – the Queen and the Mrs when I asked her to marry me.”

He added: β€œBy the way, she disputes that... I’m sure I did but we’d obviously had too much champagne at the time, but I’m certain I did.”

nashwan, Thursday, 18 June 2020 11:03 (three years ago) link

Β£100bn of QE lads. That suggests they'll keep furlough running past October after all.

Matt DC, Thursday, 18 June 2020 11:14 (three years ago) link

Raab, when he talks, seems, stupid, in a certain way, to me.

the pinefox, Thursday, 18 June 2020 11:44 (three years ago) link

It's more that he doesn't function too well among humans.

Rapsputin (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 June 2020 11:44 (three years ago) link

I do think he is quite stupid but he's also doing his own version of that thing people do when they mispronounce a black person's name for effect. It's a casual flexing of power that comes from stupidity. But he's also showing that he doesn't need to be as intelligent or engaged because he's the one with the power. Every black person who sees that will know exactly what it means.

Matt DC, Thursday, 18 June 2020 11:51 (three years ago) link

he probably is the 2nd brightest of the Britannia Unchained posse, but that is not much of accolade.

calzino, Thursday, 18 June 2020 12:04 (three years ago) link

Apparently Raab is a karate black belt. Doesn't that involve a bit of kneeling? Now I'm imagining him doing the noises :(

nashwan, Thursday, 18 June 2020 12:07 (three years ago) link


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