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On gender recognition, Starmer concludes: “I’m convinced there’s a way forward here if everyone is prepared to stop chucking bricks at each other” #R4Today

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) June 29, 2020

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scampos mentis (gyac), Monday, 29 June 2020 09:26 (three years ago) link

both-sidesing trans rights, you love to see it from the leader of the labour party in the year two thousand and twenty

scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 June 2020 09:33 (three years ago) link

I was asleep with the radio on when Robinson was interviewing Starmer this morning and it bled into my slipping between sleep and semi-consciousness state and I was dreaming he was on a building site, Gideon style in a high-viz vest and hardhat and I wanted tell him he looked ridiculous and he's a complete cunt, but I was unable to speak over him!

calzino, Monday, 29 June 2020 09:34 (three years ago) link

Going full legit concerns is so stupid and cowardly. Fuck him

covid coronenberg (wins), Monday, 29 June 2020 09:45 (three years ago) link

https://www.newstatesman.com/sites/default/files/styles/homesection_image/public/blogs_2020/06/gettyimages-1222018755.jpg?itok=j2sH_DFI

Keir Starmer Googling for a way forward on trans rights yesterday.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 29 June 2020 10:02 (three years ago) link

can tell he is just being frivolous there, he hasn't got his forensic pen in his hand for starters

calzino, Monday, 29 June 2020 10:07 (three years ago) link

Look I don’t want this to be the 24/7 Starmer hate thread myself but he makes it so easy ffs

Call Boris Johnson a clown, don’t boast you cando “50 press ups”, my god: pic.twitter.com/GqqL1YUnLg

— Dawn “Join A Union” Foster (@DawnHFoster) June 29, 2020

scampos mentis (gyac), Monday, 29 June 2020 10:10 (three years ago) link

.@eduardosalas300 nonstop 81 pushups just did it 😐🏃

— More Pushups Than U (@ididmorepushups) February 22, 2015

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 29 June 2020 10:14 (three years ago) link

good "wtf have i just seen?" face from Susanna their

i also don't want to go full "let's rag on Starmzy" because it's too easy for one thing but for all his forensic leaderliness sometimes this really weak Owen Smith stuff happens and lol lol lol

i have no scampo and i must scream (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 June 2020 10:21 (three years ago) link

didn’t we have enough of this dickwaving from joe biden ffs

scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 June 2020 10:21 (three years ago) link

starmer / johnson soggy biscuit challenge when

scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 June 2020 10:22 (three years ago) link

Starmer with his milquetoast won't say boo to a tory opposition, but the minute the opportunity for an old man dick measuring competition .. erm .. arises, he's fucking in there like a shot! truly a pathetic man.

calzino, Monday, 29 June 2020 10:27 (three years ago) link

'You know, it's funny you ask that, John, because just this weekend the down-to-earth working-class blokes building my kitchen extension asked me to give them a hand shifting a pallet of bricks from one side of the garden to the other, so I just lifted the entire thing solely with my rock-hard penis and set it down a few yards away easy as you please. Didn't even spill the cups of tea they'd set on top. You should have seen their faces, bless them.'

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 29 June 2020 10:27 (three years ago) link

somebody start the "Starmzy's rock-hard penis" thread please

i have no scampo and i must scream (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 June 2020 10:29 (three years ago) link

actually nobody start that thread please

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 29 June 2020 10:34 (three years ago) link

This year's going to end with leadership contests being settled by who can successfully wrestle Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 29 June 2020 10:37 (three years ago) link

Politics's Hardest Men

i have no scampo and i must scream (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 June 2020 10:37 (three years ago) link

i really feel that leaving the phrase "rock-hard penis" out of the title was a failure of nerve and for that i make no apologies, come on you bastards, outside, i'll have yez all

i have no scampo and i must scream (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 June 2020 10:38 (three years ago) link

There's going to be a lot of this Real Men's Man stuff over the next four years so get used to it. If anything it'll be ramped up given how much lower the Labour vote was among older men in particular, Boris has just had a baby with a woman 25 years his junior so has a clear lead in the midlife crisis vote right now.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 June 2020 10:42 (three years ago) link

best league in the world

i have no scampo and i must scream (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 June 2020 10:44 (three years ago) link

By the end of this year he'll be turning up at Westminster in a new Jag with The Blueprint blasting out.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 June 2020 10:45 (three years ago) link

Starmzy’s gonna try and contract the rona

Keir’d flex (wins), Monday, 29 June 2020 10:47 (three years ago) link

More than anything I'm looking forward to his first Prime Ministerial meeting with Putin.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 June 2020 10:50 (three years ago) link

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer tells #BBCBreakfast it’s "a shame" the sentiment behind the Black Lives Matter movement is getting “tangled up with these organisational issues" and it’s "nonsense" to call to ‘Defund the Police’. pic.twitter.com/7ydITWGZWN

— BBC Breakfast (@BBCBreakfast) June 29, 2020

Again, obviously he's not going to say anything bad about the police but the framing is O_o.

BLM is a 'moment' in which we should all focus on what happened in the US a few weeks ago and it's a "shame it is getting tangled up with these organisational issues, with the organisation Black Lives Matter, but i wouldn't have any truck with what the organisation is saying about defunding the police or anything else, that's just nonsense".

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 29 June 2020 12:08 (three years ago) link

look i think we can all agree with the sentiment that black lives matter but doing anything to address the cultural and structural problems that devalue black lives is going too far

scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 June 2020 12:13 (three years ago) link

Clearly too many black people voted Labour last time.

scampos mentis (gyac), Monday, 29 June 2020 12:15 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/QPz1OKQ.jpg

Keir’d flex (wins), Monday, 29 June 2020 12:22 (three years ago) link

How is he this bad

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 29 June 2020 12:31 (three years ago) link

Aiming for broad church left-centre-gammon umbrella with centre-gammon making the difference in marginals.

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Monday, 29 June 2020 12:45 (three years ago) link

Presumably he's now he's going back to prepare for his next Zoom interview, taking care to replace everything on his bookshelf with copies of Bravo Two Zero.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 June 2020 12:46 (three years ago) link

"of course black lives matter that's why I spent a career helping the police put the wrong'uns away"

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Monday, 29 June 2020 12:46 (three years ago) link

The irony that Theresa May was the closest we've had to a liberal police reformer in high office in like forever.

— Wail Qasim (@WailQ) June 29, 2020

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 29 June 2020 12:47 (three years ago) link

Its not so much Starmer as the Labour Party's badness.

Labour -- and poster Left perfectly reasonable point (taking aside his manner of saying it) a few days ago -- is that Corbyn et al. were competing with the Tories on funding the police. Now that looks awful and weak. We saw the effect of BLM in this country through bringing down statues of colonisers. Direct action as the path to reverse police and prison funding will be the only way to force these ideas through and bring in a generation of politicians who take 'defund the police' seriously.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 June 2020 12:49 (three years ago) link

Citing excessive stop and search inflicted on black communities and failures in handling domestic violence cases, May said problems appeared to lie with a significant minority of officers rather than just "a few bad apples".

She pledged to break the powerful federation, announcing an end to its automatic right to enrol police officers as its members, in effect curtailing the closed shop in policing .

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As the home secretary took the stage she was greeted by polite applause, but when she left there was silence, as May warned that a string of scandals about corruption and the conduct of the federation itself risked destroying the bedrock of British policing, which is that officers exercise their powers through the consent of the public.

"If there is anybody in this hall who doubts that our model of policing is at risk, if there is anybody who underestimates the damage recent events and revelations have done to the relationship between the public and the police, if anybody here questions the need for the police to change, I am here to tell you that it's time to face up to reality," May said.

Imagine anyone doing this today.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 29 June 2020 12:49 (three years ago) link

The net result of which is the former Met chief blaming her for a rise in knife crimes xp

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Monday, 29 June 2020 12:50 (three years ago) link

I mean presumably she was quite happy to have that all blamed on Sadiq Khan for her duration as PM?

Matt DC, Monday, 29 June 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link

the UK gov: not sending your child to school is such a detriment to them we might fine you

also the UK gov: don't sweat about vaccines tho, wouldn't want them to catch the dyslexia

i have no scampo and i must scream (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 June 2020 13:05 (three years ago) link

Even given any number of other factors, frames, whatever -- seeing that clip of KS above on BLM really surprises me.

I'm surprised he makes such a big deal about his love of the police, rather than talking politely about the need for reform and accountability in the police so that they represent our diverse society. He could do that and be bland and inoffensive. But he doesn't bother. He just goes on, without prompting, to say how much he admires the police.

I'm surprised that he can call BLM a 'moment' - especially when the movement (I think that's the right word) is literally 7 years old. That's a long 'moment'. He seems to mean that it's a 'moment' of a month or so in which people like Harry Kane and himself 'take a knee', and then things move on.

Above all, I'm surprised that he can dismiss the BLM organization - not gently distancing himself from it, but briskly and totally. I very much imagine that the people who run this organization are ... black people, campaigning for the rights of black people. That is - the kind of people that KS and everyone else was falling over themselves trying to respect, about a fortnight ago.

You can't say all that stuff about respect and change and going down on one knee, then dismiss the words and beliefs of actual black activists who run the central organization (as far as I can see) in this movement in the UK. That doesn't make any sense. The second thing is very offensive within the terms set down by the first thing.

Maybe I should no longer surprised by anything KS says or does. The mask has certainly come off.

the pinefox, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link

BLM are being targeted (and misquoted) by ToriesCampaign Against Non-Tory Antisemitism on Twitter (tho not only the anti-left as the Sobel tweet upthread highlights). Starmer probably aware of that in his distancing from BLM.

nashwan, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:25 (three years ago) link

Tbh I think I prefer Theresa May to Starmer, just on a personal level . She only took a decent position on Stop and Search because it conveniently sat with her slashing the fuck out of budgets all over the shop and her record as H S was pure evil, but still as awful as she is at least there was no chance of any dadflop bluster and wanking competitions.

calzino, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link

was more in favour of recruiting civilians to enact racist harrassment on behalf of the state, whole lot cheaper than getting the police to do it

Boris the Spreader (NickB), Monday, 29 June 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link

theresa may is bad

stet, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:33 (three years ago) link

"Tbh I think I prefer Theresa May to Starmer, just on a personal level"

I hope I get to live long enough to hate as purely as calzino does Sir Haircut

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

I hate KS now.

I didn't use to.

But Calzino was right.

the pinefox, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link

Tories are meant to be bad, and now the UK electorate gets two for the price of one. That is worse than bad.

calzino, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link

Definitely feels like the gammon signalling has gone into overdrive this morning and I wonder if it's a burst of overconfidence at overtaking Johnson in the 'preference for PM' polls. The press ups thing was dumb but basically harmless but the BLM interview is just a disaster - he didn't need to say anything at all.

Pretty sure they're dutifully ticking off different voter groups and there are a lot of awful authoritarian shitheels in this country so it probably tells you more about the badness of Britain specifically.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link

You love to see it

Byron to go into administration in bid to sell parts of burger chain https://t.co/5Cl08mQutK

— The Guardian (@guardian) June 29, 2020



Haven’t been there since the home office story, fuck em

scampos mentis (gyac), Monday, 29 June 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link

All those clueless melts that called Corbyn a populist maybe think populism is good now?

calzino, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link

"Tbh I think I prefer Theresa May to Starmer, just on a personal level"

I hope I get to live long enough to hate as purely as calzino does Sir Haircut


User imago is right here

scampos mentis (gyac), Monday, 29 June 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link

needs a comma

imago, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link


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