love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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True, and it’s a banger but now she’s got FBPEs up in her mentions trying to say there’s no such thing as centrists.

santa clause four (suzy), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link

It is bad enough when tories are trying to say austerity doesn't exist, but it is even worse when melts try and pretend they are the nice guys and get pissy about being called what they are!

calzino, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link

That’s the last Brexit extension deadline passed now.

stet, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 23:01 (three years ago) link

haha this guy https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/28/tech/nick-clegg-facebook-boycott-reliable/index.html

(please note his predecessor as mp for sheffield hallam is director of policy for facebook in europe (and my old boss))

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 05:39 (three years ago) link

Is the Jude Wanga writer also an ilx poster?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 08:14 (three years ago) link

No, just someone popular here.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 08:33 (three years ago) link

her tweets have made regular appearances on here, and she was nice to me once on twitter when I was in a section 47 hell and feeling like topping myself!

calzino, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 08:35 (three years ago) link

Fantastic to hear at today’s #LabourNEC meeting that @UKLabour now has around 580,000 members.

— Alice Perry (@aliceperryuk) June 30, 2020

sounds like they are still counting lapsed and dead members here (or as some would have it disappointed Jess Phillips entryists), because I think the next count will be much lower.

calzino, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 08:53 (three years ago) link

what’s the deal with 100s of wankers in ukblm’s mentions using the same few lines about how they had their chance but everyone sees through their marxist agenda now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZF1SJW7JFw

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 09:18 (three years ago) link

ever noticed how fascists are the worst

at least they have keir’s back on this, doubt it will last

Kier's bending the knee photo op and then dismissing the aims of BLM follow up has delighted James Cleverly!

calzino, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 09:26 (three years ago) link

They've been a particular target in the last week, following the Starmer interview and their tweets about Palestine.

It's always sort-of assumed that at least some of the Twitter stuff is generated by bots but idk - one prominent ex-BNP 'libertarian' blogger has been attacking them obsessively over the last few days and they have 73k followers. A couple of thousand people with too much time on their hands and too little imagination to do anything other than copy-and-paste is plausible.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 09:28 (three years ago) link

You underestimate how much 'common sense' opposition to BLM there is in the big wide world of old cunts

imago, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 10:35 (three years ago) link

Let’s see what some of 2019’s biggest political advertisers in the UK are up to these days...

— Who Targets Me (Install our browser extension!) (@WhoTargetsMe) June 30, 2020

Very good thread.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 10:41 (three years ago) link

That is excellent but I'd be very nervous indeed about installing that browser extension.

I dunno if it's the safety of my seat but I never get any political advertising of any kind on Facebook. It's all single malt, food delivery services and (in the old days) concert and theatre tickets. So while they've probably got me bang to rights it's hard not to feel a little offended when you aren't considered a valued demographic for dark money.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 11:41 (three years ago) link

Good thread (and I was about to install it but bowed out when it asked for my postal code).

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 11:45 (three years ago) link

oddly i looked up SaveBrexit (.org) and it was a full page, not as he described it.

would a whois lookup on these sites show useful information? (that one seems to be godaddy. i guess the arizona address is theirs.)

that site, btw, seems aimed at getting farage to not stand against boris.

koogs, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 12:20 (three years ago) link

The Guardian Business pages seem like a bloodbath:

"That slump forced aerospace giant Airbus to announce 15,000 job cuts last night, including 1,700 in the UK."

"Furniture chain Harveys and shirt maker TM Lewin both fell into administration on Tuesday, costing 800 jobs - with another 1,300 at risk."

"British travel food group SSP has confirmed it is planning to cut up to 5,000 jobs"

"The pandemic is forcing Britain’s manufacturers to keep slashing jobs.

Data firm IHS Market reports that employment at UK factories fell for the fifth consecutive month in June."

This is all before furlough will supposedly wind down.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 12:30 (three years ago) link

... doesn't even include john lewis or ryanair

specific fry such as scampo (||||||||), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 12:31 (three years ago) link

I remember getting bombarded with Tory ads in 2017 which was weird as we live in a safe seat. I have adblockers and content blockers on everything so I rarely see anything anyway apart from the rare occasions I go on Facebook.

scampos mentis (gyac), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 12:35 (three years ago) link

... doesn't even include john lewis or ryanair

― specific fry such as scampo (||||||||), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 bookmarkflaglink

And Harrods.

I guess local lockdowns may stop re-hiring too...

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 12:45 (three years ago) link

NEW: Boris Johnson has just confirmed the UK will open a path to citizenship for almost 3m Hong Kong residents in a bold riposte to China's security crackdown on its former colony.

— Laura Hughes (@Laura_K_Hughes) July 1, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 13:07 (three years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/01/data-reveals-coronavirus-hotspots-in-bradford-barnsley-and-rochdale

This is the data we've been needing for ages. Looks like levels are pretty low in London right now and across the South in general (although Kent is a weird anomaly, maybe Dover-related?), and they shouldn't even be considering reopening pubs in some Yorkshire cities this weekend.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 13:09 (three years ago) link

wonder what would happen if you broke Kent down into say Medway / Dover / Posh bits / other

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link

That 'bold riposte' by BoJo is... good not bad. Don't care about his motivation but if it can save dissidents from being crushed in Hong Kong, I'm all for it and think EU should follow suit in someway.

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 13:41 (three years ago) link

is red bad

xxp

specific fry such as scampo (||||||||), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link

Re: London - there's noise about local lockdowns being required in K+C, Ealing, Hammersmith and Richmond but I don't see that in the Guardian story

stet, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link

is that Hammersmith (W6) or Hammersmith (constituency)? - i'm in the one but not the other.

koogs, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link

(if it stops the pub over the road becoming the modern equiv of that cholera pump then bring it on)

koogs, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link

That 'bold riposte' by BoJo is... good not bad. Don't care about his motivation but if it can save dissidents from being crushed in Hong Kong, I'm all for it and think EU should follow suit in someway.

― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 13:41 (seventeen minutes ago) link

It's whether his voters think this is good or not, given so much of the damaging rhetoric was over EU migrants in the last 15 years.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link

H&F is the actual area, I think

stet, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:07 (three years ago) link

I guess all the other former colonies must be doing OK and not oppressing folk.

nashwan, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link

It's whether his voters think this is good or not, given so much of the damaging rhetoric was over EU migrants in the last 15 years.

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, July 1, 2020 4:03 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Well, yeah. And I wouldn't put it past bozza to make a weasely u-turn once he's read a couple of fuming tweets, but

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link

Even allowing for the fact that Hong Kong is a unique case I doubt Boris would be rushing to offer citizenship if Hong Kong was off the coast of Pakistan or Bangladesh.

Future England Captain (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link

Come on guys, the tabloids won't spin the Hong Kong measure as a bad thing and so 90% of his voters will either not know about it or think it's good too.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

They presumably assume that almost nobody is going to come.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

I imagine so.

Future England Captain (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

Who'd want to live in this fucking dump?

Future England Captain (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

In terms of inflicting a brain drain and capital flight on China it will only cause short term and limited damage to the mighty Leviathon! and will there actually be enough quality jobs on this little racist island of Rona with a rapidly shrinking economy to even attract that many HK citizens beyond the low thousands?

calzino, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link

My friend's mum is moving to the UK right now so that's one person. xposts

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link

To qualify, you need to be over the age of 23 (which excludes a large proportion of the protesters). aiui, the proposal gives a right to work / study for 12 months without additional visas - an upgrade from the 6 months at present. However, you also get 'no recourse to public funds' status, meaning the government provides absolutely no support.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:28 (three years ago) link

I'm not sure "Global Britain" can afford to piss off China now they are a lower league feeder club!

calzino, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:28 (three years ago) link

Seems like rich Hongkongers would be the main beneficiaries then?

scampos mentis (gyac), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link

fuck this country

A very telling paragraph from the Guardian's article on Coronavirus and Leicester's garment industry. pic.twitter.com/3dUTKujaEQ

— Carl Spender (@CarlSpender) July 1, 2020

In part it's about undermining another world financial centre before shit gets real with Brexit, and an influx of Hong Kong bankers might make a few institutions think twice about moving operations out of London.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

this page has actually good figures for H&F

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

(Kensington and Chelsea are above the line, Ealing pretty much on the line)

but i'm wondering if the two hospitals are skewing things.

koogs, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link

although that data seems to stop about 11 days ago.

The Indie says the following

"Some of the sharpest increases were in London boroughs, where the weekly figure rose from 7 to 18 in Hammersmith & Fulham, from 9 to 15 in Hounslow, 5 to 14 in Ealing, 6 to 14 in Westminster, 7 to 13 in Brent and 8 to 12 in Kensington and Chelsea."

koogs, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 15:28 (three years ago) link

countdown to the whole sitch in Leicester being blamed on shifty Asian employers outside of any UK immigration context starts now

i have no scampo and i must scream (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link


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