I love Philip Guston and haven't thought about him much for a while but as I get older and more fucked up I can relate to a lot of his work! I think his early stuff was maybe a not very strong and distinctive sort of abstract expressionism, but when he found his artistic voice or whatever you want to call it, like you say something in its DNA is AE or its adjacent. I'm trying not to talk absolute bollox and look foolish here because some ilxers are probably art tutors or students etc!
― calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link
well anyway fuck it all opinions are amateur really
― calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:09 (three years ago) link
yeah I'm an amateur ab ex fan too, they just seem visually similar to me is all! probably Haring knew all about those guys, you could hardly avoid them if you were an NYC art world person I guess?
― Neil S, Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:11 (three years ago) link
I wonder what kind of art Haring would have created if he grew up in Scunthorpe!
― calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link
I almost ended up on a YTS signpainting job with the local council. Should have stuck to it, could have been a contender etc!
― calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link
I went to HS and college where Haring grew up and it's always so weird that he came from there.
― Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link
yeah he sort of does come from the US version of Scunthorpe
― calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link
Is Scunthorpe rural, conservative, and full of Mennonites?
― Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link
northern shithole, formerly a steeltown not so much of that now, and full of gobshites who probably do vote conservative
― calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link
an unfashionable provincial dump basically!
― calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link
probably more like Warhol's Pittsburgh
― calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link
I really liked the costumes Haring made for Grace Jones, especially the dress for her Roseland Ballroom performance New Year's Eve 1987
― Dan S, Friday, 10 July 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link
I don't think of Basquiat's work as belonging to the 80's in my own stupid uncultured mind, not in any kind of serious art history theory sense. Just in the way I appreciate it's qualities - it reminds me of some of the great abstract expressionists of the painters of the 50's in some ways I can't really express atm. But I would categorically state he is deffo classic and a great painter!
― calzino, Wednesday, July 8, 2020 7:39 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
this is interesting Calz- thinking about this a little and a couple of similar artists might be Cy Twombly or Philip Guston perhaps? Not "classic" abstract expressionists but adjacent I suppose
― Neil S, Thursday, July 9, 2020 8:28 AM (fifteen hours ago)
Calzino - i think this is absolutely spot on fwiw, you're right to place him in that tradition imo and it's probably what he was reacting to in some way, even going back to German expressionism. It's evident enough in the emphasis on "gesture" in Basqiat's stuff, probably. But maybe even more so in all the introspective chaos.
With Twombly, there's also the abrasive line, of course- and you see that the art of skateboarders like Neck Face and Ed Templeton, and maybe going back to the Germans.
There's a lot of Guston in someone like Carroll Dunham
― Deflatormouse, Friday, 10 July 2020 04:13 (three years ago) link
Fandom is not a profession!
You have confidence in your judgements, so might as well trust your eye.
― Deflatormouse, Friday, 10 July 2020 04:31 (three years ago) link
i love haring both as a designer and an artist
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 July 2020 04:55 (three years ago) link
the radiant baby
― Dan S, Sunday, 12 July 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link
love Basquiat's art but never considered him an abstract expressionist, he's much closer to Haring
Haring's art seems connected to Burroughs to me
― Dan S, Sunday, 12 July 2020 01:43 (three years ago) link
Haring, Twombly, Basquiat, Dunham are great, but Guston is the greatest of them all
― Dan S, Sunday, 12 July 2020 01:46 (three years ago) link
Love Twombly and Basquiat...don't really get the Dunham thing, even though I technically know him, have had dinner with him, etc. He's a nice guy. His art leaves me a little cold.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 12 July 2020 11:25 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/GdtCRU7.jpg
― Luna Schlosser, Monday, 13 July 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link
^^ Strange corona virus related graffiti art spotted in Portobello Road yesterday...
― Luna Schlosser, Monday, 13 July 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link
Turing patterns sometimes look like Keith Haring art:
https://teamhoudini.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/turing-pattern.jpg
― Dan I., Saturday, 14 November 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link