love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

and what the consequences of a "normal" christmas will be in terms of carnage in January.

your search "gavin williamson sitting in a wheelbarrow holding an owl while a forest is being chopped down behind him" found 1 result:

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feels like November is the most optimistic possible date SAGE would be pushed to and they're trying to make it the base case

Man I just realised the Christmas ads this year are going to set a new standard for mawkishness.

If this is correct, it may mean that the number of coronavirus deaths in England has been significantly overestimated.

Absolute bollocks, surely? Considering that the death figures (all causes) in England and Wales throughout April and May was *way* above the figure you'd get from adding the historical seasonal average to the official Covid-19 death toll. So the impact of the virus (direct or indirect) was being underestimated.

People keep trying to pick holes in these figures like it's all being inflated for some shady purpose. In the UK there was a massive spike in death certifications for the six weeks up to Easter, like you just wouldn't see outside of... I dunno, 1950s smog? Wartime? And then it rapidly came down because we all stayed at home. "Ah, but it was never that bad" is not an angle I have much time for.

My dentist still hasn't opened for appointments. I had a filling cancelled in April. I call once a week. They say 'try in a few weeks.' Their explanation is that they still haven't received guidance from the government.

People must have been imagining all those funerals I guess.

We also don't know about how those deaths are recorded if the person dies of a lung condition, or a stroke, or something else that potentially has its roots in a covid case from months before.

Looking at the 'significant normality' plan, the big one appears to be the proposal to have sporting crowds back from October. Thousands of people piling onto the train to the ground is hugely dangerous if the level of infection isn't lower in all parts of the country. Otherwise you're looking at a super-spreading event every time Leicester or Blackburn play either away or at home.

Oh good.

BREAKING: PM lifts lockdown further in England...

🚌 Anybody can use public transport from today

👔 From 1st August instead of govt telling people to work from home, it'll be up to employers to decide how best staff can work safely

🎳Bowling, skating rinks, casinos to reopen

— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) July 17, 2020

not returning to normal until i see pictures of the queen necking a pint in a crowded pub

to my surprise my stepdad has decided not to go back to the pubs so far, the casino though - or the funhouse as he would have it - he'll be back there in a shot.

My dentist still hasn't opened for appointments. I had a filling cancelled in April. I call once a week. They say 'try in a few weeks.' Their explanation is that they still haven't received guidance from the government.

Jesus, don't remind me, I had toothache earlier in the week and was dreading having to go to the dentist - but the pain's disappeared now.

employers are not going to react how the government wants, I don't think. You don't volunteer to have your staff get sick in order to help save Pret ffs

People keep trying to pick holes in these figures like it's all being inflated for some shady purpose.

Press encouraging it all the way and I've already had relatives falling for it.

Hancock literally announcing an urgent enquiry because of a report from Oxford that hasn't yet been peer-reviewed and seems full of dogwhistle political bias.

I thought the ONS higher than usual recorded death figures for the Rona spike suggested our official figures are too low if anything? I mean fuck this bullshit anyway, it reeks!

employers are not going to react how the government wants, I don't think. You don't volunteer to have your staff get sick in order to help save Pret ffs

I've had lot of first hand discussions about this stuff and overwhelmingly they're saying they're not going to make anyone go in if they're not comfortable, certainly not before 2021. That might be different in boiler room call centre environments but in general WFH seems to be working fine regardless of how challenged the businesses themselves are. It's certainly less disruptive than having a virus raging round the office.

To give an anecdote from the other side, an acquaintance who works in hedge fund management (obv would never call someone who does so a friend) has had his boss freak out about people not wanting to go back in the office for months already - they never actually shut down and always had a few ppl in, including ppl who had the virus.

nb this is the same boss who made a Brexit Day cake w/ a giant UK flag surrounded by tiny little flags of the countries that all the employees come from and thought that was a nice gesture

The biggest problem for call centres - that i guess would also extend to some finance stuff - is that, aiui, you can't have people working from home handling customer payment information. Again, with India - where BPOs are a major part of the economy, the approach has been that you can't legally have more than one employee in every three in the office.

Actually, on that subject, i've heard anecdotally that there are a few US businesses looking to move call centres back onshore as there's less chance of government-mandated closures but idk how common that is or whether it also applies to the UK.

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— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) July 17, 2020

Watching the making of the Olympic 2012 opening ceremony and I have weeped 6 times already. I love my country very much.

— Jess Phillips MP (@jessphillips) July 17, 2020

i went to take the piss and the next tweet under Phillips agreeing with her was Lloyd R-M so fuck both of them

"progressive patriotism" lol what a wanker!

with friends like this i don't need any friends

xxp my employer is working with several call centres which are operating with staff all working from home. I think it takes a bit of set-up but basically people can tap in card/account numbers on their phone rather than reading them out, and the details are never accessed/handled by staff.

It’s mad how a sporting event opening ceremony is something which purely exists for us to take the piss out of and have commentators make snide remarks about, until we host one and it’s a fucking sacred moment in history to weep about for millennia

What a truly embarrassing country

God I loved the con dem coalition days. The Olympic ceremony, the 2011 riots, it was just an optimistic time for this great country. What went wrong?

progressive patriotism = making a cup of tea for people before you deport them iirc

xp as ever, blame for this tragedy lies with Jreyme Conryb

it happened in that golden era when Tories were still nice and only killing hundreds of disabled ppl rather than thousands and Yvette Cooper was attacking Hostile Environment for being too damn soft, a time of gentler and more civil political discourse.

why do these people hate populism so much when their entire political strategy is racism and flags

"It'll be fine by Christmas," seems such an odd promise in the context of reports that a second spike might lead to 120 000 deaths. Still, I was slightly anticipating a slightly more ridiculous press conference (along the lines of "you actually all can go back to work").

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I'm starting to think that post might have been misunderstood sarcasm, because Phillips was apparently scheming for him to have his whip removed?

No, that’s another Phillips - Euan, who made hundreds of antisemitism complaints and is discussed in the leaked report.

ah, he probably is a tool then!

Phillips is a cursed name

The Ace With The Mace is clearly an emotional chap, I 100% believe he cries watching the 2012 opening ceremony.

I mean hopefully not the bits with Frank Turner and Ed Sheeran in them but still.

Every time I think about Frank fucking Turner getting a slot it just enrages me, like who was asking for that?

Going to bite on this one. Patriotism and flag-waving is silly and banal but why not just stick a flag on it and shut down that flank? It seems to matter to some people and not doing opens up space for accusations of they dont love our country innit they love the palestine more than they love their own mothers they dont care

I love britain, frack any of it get banged

britain is a racist endeavour, loving it is never ok

That's it, I love Britain.

bloody love a bit of Blighty me

I've got that Alan Vega track, "Viet Vet" going through my head now:

"He loves his country
It's the greatest, it's the greatest"

you don't have to be a bit mad tory to live here but it sure helps!

its UK garage not EU garage chat shit get banged

Don't really give a shit about strategy, fuck a patriot, open the borders

I mean I guess it's like religion, not my place to question other people's faith, but at least religion has some up sides.